Bill O'Reilly bludgeons Joan Walsh over abortion

[Ichigo]

Too bad it's from HP.

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I'm not sure what Joan was trying to prove, O' Reilly clearly got the best of her.

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: Ichigo
Too bad it's from HP.

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I'm not sure what Joan was trying to prove, O' Reilly clearly got the best of her.

The writer seems to think the opposite...

 

[Zstream]

Originally posted by: spittledip

Originally posted by: Ichigo
Too bad it's from HP.

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I'm not sure what Joan was trying to prove, O' Reilly clearly got the best of her.

The writer seems to think the opposite...

This has been repeated to death, is gets the best of emotions from people.

Anyways, Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions for marginal reasons. That fact can not be disputed. That reason alone makes me think of that guy as disgusting and harmful to society.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Zstream
Anyways, Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions for marginal reasons.

Can you substantiate your claim?

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Zstream
Anyways, Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions for marginal reasons.

Can you substantiate your claim?

Most abortions are for frivolous reasons.

As for the topic at hand, why is this an issue? It is legal, it should stay legal, those who go through with it should be scorned and their parent's bludgeoned for not raising better children.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: spittledip

Originally posted by: Ichigo
Too bad it's from HP.

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I'm not sure what Joan was trying to prove, O' Reilly clearly got the best of her.

The writer seems to think the opposite...

This has been repeated to death, is gets the best of emotions from people.

Anyways, Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions for marginal reasons. That fact can not be disputed. That reason alone makes me think of that guy as disgusting and harmful to society.

Trying the save the life of a mother truly is a marginal reason if you hate women.

 

[StageLeft]

Fvck it! Do it live!

 

[Zstream]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: spittledip

Originally posted by: Ichigo
Too bad it's from HP.

Text

I'm not sure what Joan was trying to prove, O' Reilly clearly got the best of her.

The writer seems to think the opposite...

This has been repeated to death, is gets the best of emotions from people.

Anyways, Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions for marginal reasons. That fact can not be disputed. That reason alone makes me think of that guy as disgusting and harmful to society.

Trying the save the life of a mother truly is a marginal reason if you hate women.

I am not here to debate your lower standard of morals. Instead of replying based on little facts, maybe you should research before coming to a conclusion?

 

[Zstream]

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Zstream
Anyways, Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions for marginal reasons.

Can you substantiate your claim?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mviFMpy_sBU

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Zstream
Anyways, Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions for marginal reasons.

Can you substantiate your claim?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mviFMpy_sBU

nice source lmao

 

[Modelworks]

Late term abortions , to me , are evil. If the mother could die then I understand doing it, but not because you decided you didn't want the baby. I think anyone who gets a abortion at this late stage illegally should be sterilized. You are killing a life that has a heart beat, has even been shown to be able to dream and has some senses such as touch and the ability to discern if it is upright or upside down.

I did not understand at what weeks a baby develops what features and what was considered late term. Seems most states say anywhere from 24-27 weeks is considered late term.

Read for yourself and decide if it is wrong to kill at that stage.
http://kidshealth.org/parent/p...y_calendar/week22.html

 

[Bird222]

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Zstream
Anyways, Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions for marginal reasons.

Can you substantiate your claim?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mviFMpy_sBU

One, this seems to be discussing whether or not from a PSYCHOLOGICAL stand point would these women suffer harm from caring a baby to term. Two, how does one get to review someone's medical records without a court order or something? I thought those were protected.

 

[Shuxclams]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Zstream
Anyways, Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions for marginal reasons.

Can you substantiate your claim?

Most abortions are for frivolous reasons.

As for the topic at hand, why is this an issue? It is legal, it should stay legal, those who go through with it should be scorned and their parent's bludgeoned for not raising better children.

Can you substantiate your claim?

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Zstream
Anyways, Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions for marginal reasons.

Can you substantiate your claim?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mviFMpy_sBU

nice source lmao

Ya, I guess being the chairman of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins sure makes that guy not qualified....

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Zstream
Anyways, Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions for marginal reasons.

Can you substantiate your claim?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mviFMpy_sBU

nice source lmao

Ya, I guess being the chairman of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins sure makes that guy not qualified....

More diagnosis by long distance? Have we seen this before??

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Zstream
Anyways, Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions for marginal reasons.

Can you substantiate your claim?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mviFMpy_sBU

nice source lmao

Ya, I guess being the chairman of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins sure makes that guy not qualified....

More diagnosis by long distance? Have we seen this before??

Um....He reviewed the physical medical records. I think you fail the recognize the meaning of the term 'record'

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Zstream
Anyways, Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions for marginal reasons.

Can you substantiate your claim?

Most abortions are for frivolous reasons.

As for the topic at hand, why is this an issue? It is legal, it should stay legal, those who go through with it should be scorned and their parent's bludgeoned for not raising better children.

Frivolous? A late term abortion on a nine year old carrying Daddy's baby, frivolous??

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Late term abortions , to me , are evil. If the mother could die then I understand doing it, but not because you decided you didn't want the baby. I think anyone who gets a abortion at this late stage illegally should be sterilized. You are killing a life that has a heart beat, has even been shown to be able to dream and has some senses such as touch and the ability to discern if it is upright or upside down.

I did not understand at what weeks a baby develops what features and what was considered late term. Seems most states say anywhere from 24-27 weeks is considered late term.

Read for yourself and decide if it is wrong to kill at that stage.
http://kidshealth.org/parent/p...y_calendar/week22.html

Andrew Sullivan was posting a series of emails from women who had abortions including late term abortions. It's heartbreaking to read most of them, and I think you'll find it very difficult to characterize any of these people evil.

It's so easy to take these things in the abstract and villianize caricatures of baby killing mothers happily prancing off the the abortionist in their 9th month. It doesn't happen that way.

As to O'Reilly, seemed he was an emotional wreck and the guest stayed calm, he looked like a turd especially since he invites people onto his show to yell at them.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Most abortions are for frivolous reasons.

As for the topic at hand, why is this an issue? It is legal, it should stay legal, those who go through with it should be scorned and their parent's bludgeoned for not raising better children.

Frivolous? A late term abortion on a nine year old carrying Daddy's baby, frivolous??

You can generalize using one data point, but if you're going to tell me the majority of abortions are performed on 9 year old girls then I'm going to tell you that you're full of shit and everyone knows it.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Zstream
Anyways, Dr. Tiller performed late term abortions for marginal reasons.

Can you substantiate your claim?

Most abortions are for frivolous reasons.

As for the topic at hand, why is this an issue? It is legal, it should stay legal, those who go through with it should be scorned and their parent's bludgeoned for not raising better children.

Frivolous? A late term abortion on a nine year old carrying Daddy's baby, frivolous??

Selected reading. I do believe that the sentence does use the qualifier 'most'.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Most abortions are for frivolous reasons.

As for the topic at hand, why is this an issue? It is legal, it should stay legal, those who go through with it should be scorned and their parent's bludgeoned for not raising better children.

Frivolous? A late term abortion on a nine year old carrying Daddy's baby, frivolous??

You can generalize using one data point, but if you're going to tell me the majority of abortions are performed on 9 year old girls then I'm going to tell you that you're full of shit and everyone knows it.

The overwhelming majority of late term abortions are performed for serious medical reasons. If you claim they are just people who changed their minds 8 months in, then I'm going to tell you that you're full of shit and everyone knows it.

Early abortions are often based on much less provocation, but at that point we're talking about a group of undifferentiated cells so the external interest is nowhere near as compelling.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Most abortions are for frivolous reasons.

As for the topic at hand, why is this an issue? It is legal, it should stay legal, those who go through with it should be scorned and their parent's bludgeoned for not raising better children.

Frivolous? A late term abortion on a nine year old carrying Daddy's baby, frivolous??

You can generalize using one data point, but if you're going to tell me the majority of abortions are performed on 9 year old girls then I'm going to tell you that you're full of shit and everyone knows it.

The overwhelming majority of late term abortions are performed for serious medical reasons. If you claim they are just people who changed their minds 8 months in, then I'm going to tell you that you're full of shit and everyone knows it.

Should I believe the chair of a department at Johns Hopkins University who reviewed the medical records or you?

 

[Jaskalas]

I do not oppose medical reasons, so what the hell are you arguing about?

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Most abortions are for frivolous reasons.

As for the topic at hand, why is this an issue? It is legal, it should stay legal, those who go through with it should be scorned and their parent's bludgeoned for not raising better children.

Frivolous? A late term abortion on a nine year old carrying Daddy's baby, frivolous??

You can generalize using one data point, but if you're going to tell me the majority of abortions are performed on 9 year old girls then I'm going to tell you that you're full of shit and everyone knows it.

The overwhelming majority of late term abortions are performed for serious medical reasons. If you claim they are just people who changed their minds 8 months in, then I'm going to tell you that you're full of shit and everyone knows it.

Should I believe the chair of a department at Johns Hopkins University who reviewed the medical records or you?

You mean the psychiatrist who never met any of the patients? He's entitled to his opinion. But this mythical 8 or 9 month pregant woman who simply changes her mind on a whim is a fantastic boogeyman of the conservative movement. She's a unicorn.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Most abortions are for frivolous reasons.

As for the topic at hand, why is this an issue? It is legal, it should stay legal, those who go through with it should be scorned and their parent's bludgeoned for not raising better children.

Frivolous? A late term abortion on a nine year old carrying Daddy's baby, frivolous??

You can generalize using one data point, but if you're going to tell me the majority of abortions are performed on 9 year old girls then I'm going to tell you that you're full of shit and everyone knows it.

The overwhelming majority of late term abortions are performed for serious medical reasons. If you claim they are just people who changed their minds 8 months in, then I'm going to tell you that you're full of shit and everyone knows it.

Should I believe the chair of a department at Johns Hopkins University who reviewed the medical records or you?

You mean the psychiatrist who never met any of the patients? He's entitled to his opinion. But this mythical 8 or 9 month pregant woman who simply changes her mind on a whim is a fantastic boogeyman of the conservative movement. She's a unicorn.

You fail to see the flaw in your logic. First off, many diagnosis are made by doctors via medical records without ever meeting the patient. The fact that he never met the patients is irrelevant.

Secondly, how would he had been able to come to the conclusions he did if the medical records did not include the necessary facts? The medical records must contain detailed records of why some of these woman received abortions and those must have included some who had "bad" excuses.

I really do not understand why you dismiss a department head at Johns Hopkins University so quickly. It is not as if Bill O'Reily did the investigation himself.