Bill O’Reilly: “I Don’t Care About the Constitution”

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LunarRay

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Holding terrorists indefinitely without any rights whatsoever is clearly against the law. Sadly both the current and last administrations are changing definitions on the fly, but it's still illegal, just not grossly so.

Well... you'd first have to define what the terrorist is... IS he a enemy combatant? IF he is then we are at War with terrorists and he is subject to 'holding' until the end of the war... if they are not enemy combatants then we are not at war with terrorists...
 

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Lifer
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Well... you'd first have to define what the terrorist is... IS he a enemy combatant? IF he is then we are at War with terrorists and he is subject to 'holding' until the end of the war... if they are not enemy combatants then we are not at war with terrorists...

Like I said, it's changing the terms around (enemy combatant vs. foreign terrorist vs. state-sponsored terrorist) that are allowing illegal activity to continue, such as holding innocent people indefinitely. The fact that some of them are not American citizens does not mean they don't have American/American-like rights and this has been confirmed and ruled upon multiple times (like last summer's decision to allow alleged terrorists to appeal).
 

LunarRay

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Like I said, it's changing the terms around (enemy combatant vs. foreign terrorist vs. state-sponsored terrorist) that are allowing illegal activity to continue, such as holding innocent people indefinitely. The fact that some of them are not American citizens does not mean they don't have American/American-like rights and this has been confirmed and ruled upon multiple times (like last summer's decision to allow alleged terrorists to appeal).

I think the decision extended certain rights to not only the US but to include areas under US direct control as Gitmo is... I agree they should have the right to have their status determined.
We can't have it both ways but we are enjoying that status, it seems. I can see why we'd want it that way... But, end of day the most logical place to try these people depends on their real status. And if there is a court forum choice, Cost should matter if all other things are equal.

In Oct of '02 Bush produced a War Powers Act Resolution... It was quite broad and in my mind puts us in a state of war with a broad spectrum of people... I think the terrorists are enemy combatants. They are in an Atypical war.
 
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Sure does. Ctrl+F 11-18-2009, 07:34 PM. Get it yet? Gee I hope so.

Assuming you're two hours ahead of me due to these things called time zones, I ignored that post because of the Mod call out. Also, because I tend to ignore conspiracy theories, and any idiot could go to that site and see it's not a white supremacist website.