Bill O’Reilly: “I Don’t Care About the Constitution”

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http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/043156.html

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for Judge Napolitano, who uses reason, logic, and an understanding of the rule of law, compared to Bill O who runs on emotions and partisanship. That's what leads to saying stupid things like "I Don’t Care About the Constitution,” even if you don't really mean it literally.
 

Ozoned

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I think the intent and context of what he said is very clear, even in his clearly emotional state.
 

Patranus

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Wasn't it Obama who said that America shouldn't project its values around the world?
If that is the case, why should someone who has never set foot in American soil be afforded any protections of the constitution.
 

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I think the intent and context of what he said is very clear, even in his clearly emotional state.

I'd say it says a lot about O'Reilly when he essentially dismisses what the law and/or Constitution dictates because he doesn't feel "it's right", with of course no other alternative explanation. Let's be real here, the guy probably hasn't actually read it and even pro-Constitution kooks like the OP can't cite it with any semblance of coherence.
 
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Patranus

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I'd say it says a lot (of bad) things about O'Reilly that he essentially didn't particularly care what the law and/or Constitution dictates. Let's be real here, the guy probably hasn't actually read it and even pro-Constitution kooks like the OP can't site it with any semblance of coherence.

I must have missed the section where the Constitution applies to people who are not citizens or are not even in the United States...where exactly does it say this?
 

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And why is a mod linking to white supremacist web sites like lewrockwell?
 

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I must have missed the section where the Constitution applies to people who are not citizens or are not even in the United States...where exactly does it say this?

So, if you don't mind - how would you proceed?
 
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I must have missed the section where the Constitution applies to people who are not citizens or are not even in the United States...where exactly does it say this?

I'll repost my statement since you missed it; "...law and/or Constitution...". We've already established precedent for trying terrorists in the U.S. Common knowledge.
 

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I'd say it says a lot about O'Reilly when he essentially dismisses what the law and/or Constitution dictates because he doesn't feel "it's right", with of course no other alternative explanation. Let's be real here, the guy probably hasn't actually read it and even pro-Constitution kooks like the OP can't cite it with any semblance of coherence.

Jesus, I hate Bill O'Rielly and that's not the context of what he said at all. He was asking the guest opinion, not what the Constitution says.

And why is a mod linking to white supremacist web sites like lewrockwell?

Is everything racist to the looney left?
 

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Lifer
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Jesus, I hate Bill O'Rielly and that's not the context of what he said at all. He was asking the guest opinion, not what the Constitution says.

How is "I don't care about the Constitution" asking his guest a question? You'll have to explain that one.

Is everything racist to the looney left?

Mostly to the sane who can read and research:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/01/the_rockwell_files.cfm
http://tomgpalmer.com/2005/01/21/racism-and-bigotry-delivered-courtesy-of-lew-rockwell/
 

xj0hnx

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How is "I don't care about the Constitution" asking his guest a question? You'll have to explain that one.

If that sentence he said it in needs an to be explained to you, then you have a comprehension skill set just slightly lower than a tuna salad.



Your being confused about the first link is easily explained by your inability to understand complete sentences like the one being discussed, the second appears to be what? Someone that post a column on a website makes a website racist? Looney left indeed.
 

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Wasn't it Obama who said that America shouldn't project its values around the world?
If that is the case, why should someone who has never set foot in American soil be afforded any protections of the constitution.

Why should someone who is obviously very stupid and so frightened that they cling to authority, no matter how idiotic said authority maybe, be allowed to post their inane thoughts on the internet?
 

Vic

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I must have missed the section where the Constitution applies to people who are not citizens or are not even in the United States...where exactly does it say this?

Throughout. The Constitution does not grant any rights to the people, because rights are inherent. What it does do is limit and enumerate the rights and powers of govt.
So you got it backward. In order for the Constitution to not apply to people who are not citizens, there would have to be a section that says it doesn't apply, a section that specifically granted that power over non-citizens to govt. And as you pointed out, that section is not there, so govt does not have that power.
 

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He didn't really mean it the way it's put forth in the OP. He was just trying to get the guy to speak his opinion. Obviously the guy's opinion was based upon the Constitution though, but Bill moved on and didn't harp on the Constitution about it. Which indicates to me what I previously mentioned.

O'Reilly is still a doofus though.
 

Moonbeam

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Yup, when O'Reilly said he didn't care about the Constitution, he meant he didn't want to hear what the Constitution says, he wanted the judge to speak his own opinion and not quote it.

This garbage about how our system is too frail to try terrorists for the crime of terrorism in civilian courts, however, is just yellow bellied cowardliness and a lack of faith in our system.
 

Genx87

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People only care about the constitution when it isnt in the way of what they want to accomplish. Funny watching lefties complain about Bill O's disregard for it while they push for govt programs that clearly fall outside the scope of the federal govt outlined by the constitution.
 

Bird222

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People only care about the constitution when it isnt in the way of what they want to accomplish. Funny watching lefties complain about Bill O's disregard for it while they push for govt programs that clearly fall outside the scope of the federal govt outlined by the constitution.

Funny watching "conservatives" trying to push for govt intervention in private lives like Terri Schiavo.
 

Genx87

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Funny watching "conservatives" trying to push for govt intervention in private lives like Terri Schiavo.

While at the time I did support that line of idiocy. I have since realized how stupid and out of scope it was for the feds to intervene in such a case. So today I agree with you.
 

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Throughout. The Constitution does not grant any rights to the people, because rights are inherent. What it does do is limit and enumerate the rights and powers of govt.
So you got it backward. In order for the Constitution to not apply to people who are not citizens, there would have to be a section that says it doesn't apply, a section that specifically granted that power over non-citizens to govt. And as you pointed out, that section is not there, so govt does not have that power.

Well said.

Some people forget easily that human rights and ethics are not inconveniences to be applied on a limited basis, and avoided when possible.

Legally, your constitution has no power outside American borders; certainly, it was drafted as one vision of the rights of ALL people, not just those in America.
 

ayabe

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People only care about the constitution when it isnt in the way of what they want to accomplish. Funny watching lefties complain about Bill O's disregard for it while they push for govt programs that clearly fall outside the scope of the federal govt outlined by the constitution.

So now you're drifting into Tenther land? I expect more out of you man.
 

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How is "I don't care about the Constitution" asking his guest a question? You'll have to explain that one.



Mostly to the sane who can read and research:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/01/the_rockwell_files.cfm
http://tomgpalmer.com/2005/01/21/racism-and-bigotry-delivered-courtesy-of-lew-rockwell/

If you listened to the REST of the sentence, he said "... The constitution is out there, you are in here."

He was asking the guest what he thinks we should do, not what other sources say we should do. (BTW I don't think the constitution has anything in it about trying war criminals)
 

Fear No Evil

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Its funny how blatently misleading titles are never changed when it goes against conservatives.. This title is blatently misleading.. Anyone with half a brain can figure out what he actually meant by this.. I thought you were smarter than this toker..