Bill Maher recognizes it

cubby1223

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Bill Maher thinks one reason Donald Trump became President of the United States is liberal culture’s concern with language.

"Democrats have gone from the party that protects people to the party that protects feelings. From, 'Ask not what your country can do for you,' to, 'You owe me an apology,'" Maher said on Friday night’s Real Time With Bill Maher.

Maher noted how conservatives dominated elections last year while, he felt, liberals were focused on smaller issues - like a tweet Steve Martin sent in the wake of Carrie Fisher’s death.

"When I was a young man, Carrie Fisher was the most beautiful creature I had ever seen. She turned out to be witty and bright as well," Martin wrote in a contentious tweet that he later deleted.

"How could you Steve? We thought we knew you, but this? You noted her appearance first, and then that she was witty and bright. You’re a monster," Maher said on Friday. "Liberals do this all the time: they get offended for people who themselves would not be offended. You know that whole controversy about the name Washington Redskins? They did a survey: nine out of 10 actual Indians don’t give a sh–."

"What matters is that while you self-involved fools were policing language at the Kids’ Choice Awards, a madman talked his way into the White House," Maher said. "What matters is that while liberals were in a contest to see who could be the first to call out fat-shaming, the Tea Party has been busy taking over school boards. Stop protecting your virgin ears and start noticing you’re getting f—ed in the ass."

The more you lefties think it's instead all about propaganda and fake news and gaslighting and racism and bigotry, the more you lefties will continue struggling for relevancy in this nation.
 

Commodus

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The more you lefties think it's instead all about propaganda and fake news and gaslighting and racism and bigotry, the more you lefties will continue struggling for relevancy in this nation.

There is such a thing as overdone outrage, but at the same time, there's no question that Trump is fostering bigotry. He has clear contempt for both the free press and science. And why is it acceptable to you that a politician tells serious, easily disproven lies on a near-daily basis without consequences?

Trump may have won because he had a populist message, but that doesn't mean that what he's doing is good for the country, or that his voters were well-informed. Clinton was both tainted by scandal allegations (legit or otherwise) and that sense that she was pre-ordained, but she was still infinitely better than an incompetent, ignorant and spiteful person like Trump.
 

FIVR

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Maher is an Israeli shill, an anti-muslim bigot and an idiot.

Democrats have gone from the party that protects people to the party that protects feelings.
Nice one Maher. Who the F has feelings to be protected? Chimpanzees? Rotary wing aircraft?



For Netanyahu's sake, get an F-ing clue Maher. I know for a fact he very much has problems with people using certain anti-semitic epithets (for good reason), but he claims everyone should 'tell it like it is' when it comes to Muslims. Because terrorism.
 

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The more you lefties think it's instead all about propaganda and fake news and gaslighting and racism and bigotry, the more you lefties will continue struggling for relevancy in this nation.
Not the same. Exaggerated reactions to quite innocent statements that *appear* to hint at insensitivity towards, race or gender is FAR different than actual hate peddled by Trumpsters and their ilk. You are hoping the latter will be excused from that by suggesting Maher means that all politically incorrect speech (including hate, incitement, actual bigotry, etc) is unwarranted.
 

JSt0rm

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the only people on these forums concerned with safe spaces and feelings are the alt right gamer gate deplorables
 

MrSquished

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I saw that Maher segment online yesterday. I think I can agree with a good part of it for sure.
 

sandorski

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Maher's main criticism is that Liberals/Democrats were not focusing on Governing and/or gaining Power. They were too focused on minor side issues while Conservatives/Republicans have been steadily gaining Power from City Hall to the White House. That seems a legit criticism, expend Energy and Passion into achieving Power, not just correcting Peoples potentially offensive Speech.
 

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MongGrel

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the only people on these forums concerned with safe spaces and feelings are the alt right gamer gate deplorables

The scary part these days is the current CIC has thin skin, and probably would get bitch slapped on P&N here and launch a nuke strike in retaliation.
 

HamburgerBoy

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I don't think it made a big difference one way or the other. Anyone that puts "fat shaming" or other PC issues on a pedestal is never voting Republican in the first place, and I doubt very many non-PC Democrats decided they weren't going to vote because someone on MTV News said something about white privilege. Perhaps it riled up enough /pol/ people to turnout and vote for Trump, but I doubt that too.
 

MongGrel

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I don't think it made a big difference one way or the other. Anyone that puts "fat shaming" or other PC issues on a pedestal is never voting Republican in the first place, and I doubt very many non-PC Democrats decided they weren't going to vote because someone on MTV News said something about white privilege. Perhaps it riled up enough /pol/ people to turnout and vote for Trump, but I doubt that too.

I blame Putin.

*shrug*
 

Bowfinger

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http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/28/bill-maher-pc-culture-trump/

The more you lefties think it's instead all about propaganda and fake news and gaslighting and racism and bigotry, the more you lefties will continue struggling for relevancy in this nation.
Maher was not talking about propaganda or fake news or gaslighting; he's recognized all of them as real issues. He was talking about racism complaints, but only in a narrow sense. As shown in his quote, he criticizes those who complain about inconsequential racism, e.g., things that hurt someone's feelings but don't cause any material harm. That's not at all the same thing as actual harmful racism, where someone is the victim of discrimination due to race. Sorry, he still opposes that.
 

Moonbeam

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Liberals have a brain defect as invisible to them as the conservative brain defect is invisible to conservatives. Liberal solutions to their problems are generally worthless. They couldn't even see that Hillary was the wrong person to run for President but they KNEW she was. She wasn't and liberals remain generally blind to why. They blame everybody but their own brain defect.
 

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Maker is a comedian, it stands to reason he'd hate more of the PC culture than the average liberal. 404 surprise not found.
 

superstition

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Bill Maher is no George Carlin. He has a bigger mouth but a lot less to say.

His pseudo objectivity shtick falls apart upon any reasonable level of scrutiny. He's good at saying "common sense" things that people don't think about enough to realize he's really not that insightful.
 

disappoint

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I came to the thread, won't bother on a cubby tirade.

It's funny. You have preconceived notions about posters here, and even if they tell the truth you won't listen to them because you've already established in your mind that you hate them so you won't hear a word they are saying. They could literally post 2+2=4 and you'd reply "Well your posting history sucks so lalalalalalaa I CAN'T HEAR YOU lalalalalalala"

You do this because it's easier than understanding. Easier than getting to know why people post what they do and understanding that even though we all make mistakes sometimes that doesn't mean we always do. It's terrible because it's dismissive of people and it exposes your hatred.

It's very similar to stereotyping, also known as racism. It's a shortcut and dismissive. You see one black guy looting a store during a riot and you think "Well all black people are looting criminals." But that's not true. You know all black people are not the same. This cognitive bias is something that people evolved to have back when humans needed to asses a situation quickly or be killed by wild animals and not pass on their genes to the next generation. So they learned to generalize and quickly determine friend or foe.

Modern humans have evolved beyond that and think deeper to determine friend or foe now because modern times are different.
 

SP33Demon

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There is such a thing as overdone outrage, but at the same time, there's no question that Trump is fostering bigotry. He has clear contempt for both the free press and science. And why is it acceptable to you that a politician tells serious, easily disproven lies on a near-daily basis without consequences?

Trump may have won because he had a populist message, but that doesn't mean that what he's doing is good for the country, or that his voters were well-informed. Clinton was both tainted by scandal allegations (legit or otherwise) and that sense that she was pre-ordained, but she was still infinitely better than an incompetent, ignorant and spiteful person like Trump.
It's about jobs and the hope for new jobs and the message that the new jobs are coming. None of the other crap you just posted comparatively matters to the people (whose votes matter the most).
 

SP33Demon

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Bill Maher is no George Carlin. He has a bigger mouth but a lot less to say.

His pseudo objectivity shtick falls apart upon any reasonable level of scrutiny. He's good at saying "common sense" things that people don't think about enough to realize he's really not that insightful.
No, he's stating the obvious to the people who are actually paying attention. Wanna be a PC-tard and waste energy perpetuating liberal virtue signaling like anti-slut shaming and BLM? Then you're going to lose - again.
 

Jhhnn

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It's about jobs and the hope for new jobs and the message that the new jobs are coming. None of the other crap you just posted comparatively matters to the people (whose votes matter the most).

When we ask the question "What's in it for the Job Creators?" it should become clearer.

The answer, of course, is that if they thought there was money to be made creating jobs in Trump country they'd already be doing it. Deregulating finance & giving them tax cuts won't change that enough to matter, nor likely will trade barriers & kicking out the illegals, either.

The guys at the top don't need to hire us the way they once did. We're becoming more obsolete every day, particularly those of us not willing to move where the jobs are, in the urban centers. Trump won't change that no matter how hard he & Congress push trickle down Reaganomics.
 

MongGrel

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It's funny. You have preconceived notions about posters here, and even if they tell the truth you won't listen to them because you've already established in your mind that you hate them so you won't hear a word they are saying. They could literally post 2+2=4 and you'd reply "Well your posting history sucks so lalalalalalaa I CAN'T HEAR YOU lalalalalalala"

You do this because it's easier than understanding. Easier than getting to know why people post what they do and understanding that even though we all make mistakes sometimes that doesn't mean we always do. It's terrible because it's dismissive of people and it exposes your hatred.

It's very similar to stereotyping, also known as racism. It's a shortcut and dismissive. You see one black guy looting a store during a riot and you think "Well all black people are looting criminals." But that's not true. You know all black people are not the same. This cognitive bias is something that people evolved to have back when humans needed to asses a situation quickly or be killed by wild animals and not pass on their genes to the next generation. So they learned to generalize and quickly determine friend or foe.

Modern humans have evolved beyond that and think deeper to determine friend or foe now because modern times are different.

Try again.

Bill Maher is no George Carlin. He has a bigger mouth but a lot less to say.

His pseudo objectivity shtick falls apart upon any reasonable level of scrutiny. He's good at saying "common sense" things that people don't think about enough to realize he's really not that insightful.

George Carlin for president is not possible these days unfortunately, would make more sense these days.

Maher comes off as pretty smary for a lot of people, but he usually makes a lot of good points on issues in general.
 

MongGrel

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It's about jobs and the hope for new jobs and the message that the new jobs are coming. None of the other crap you just posted comparatively matters to the people (whose votes matter the most).

Trump has busy cutting more jobs than he has created in one week.
 

FelixDeCat

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I normally disagree with that disgusting Maher because he is, well, disgusting. Did I forget to mention he was disgusting, unfunny and a relic from the 80s/90s?

However, he has the libs nailed on this one.

Turn to the right Maher. You know you want to.
 

Commodus

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No, he's stating the obvious to the people who are actually paying attention. Wanna be a PC-tard and waste energy perpetuating liberal virtue signaling like anti-slut shaming and BLM? Then you're going to lose - again.

You have to do both: care about jobs, but actually give a damn about women, non-whites and... well, everyone. The Dems this time didn't spend enough time reassuring people on the economic front before attacking Trump's rampant bigotry, and they really needed to do both.