Bill Maher on the teabaggers versus Founding Fathers.

[IGBT]

So, in front of tea-partiers, who want to take the country back to the "good old days"? (Regression)

the secular regressive agenda was soundly rejected last year..or was that some how missed on the obama cheer leader news media your so mesmerized in??

 

[zinfamous]

the secular regressive agenda was soundly rejected last year..or was that some how missed on the obama cheer leader news media your so mesmerized in??

how can secular be regressive?

you sound just like Ahmadingebadjag.

:hmm:

 

[Red Dawn]

the secular regressive agenda was soundly rejected last year..or was that some how missed on the obama cheer leader news media your so mesmerized in??

Maybe the Progressive agenda was rejected but Secularism wasn't. You Fundie nutjobs aren't all that popular either. Nobody in their right mind wants Religious Luddites running this country

 

[IGBT]

Maybe the Progressive agenda was rejected but Secularism wasn't. You Fundie nutjobs aren't all that popular either. Nobody in their right mind wants Religious Luddites running this country

that explains why the dirt worship eco-theists are on the ropes too.

 

[Red Dawn]

that explains why the dirt worship eco-theists are on the ropes too.

Lolwut??

 

[zinfamous]

I can't fathom why a right-winger would see a guy like Bill Maher as any less legitimate than blowhards like Glen Beck, O-Reilly, Limbaugh.

They all have the same credentials, same relevance to "journalism."

hell, Anne Coulter is one of Bill Maher's buddies. they should respect him for that alone.

 

[matt0611]

Bill Maher gets a lot of things wrong. He totally misrepresents that people viewed blacks as "3/5s of a person". This came about because they didn't want states that had many slaves to be dis-proportionally given more voting power in the country giving the slave-owners more power. It had nothing to do with thinking of blacks or slaves as inferior to whites. In fact, the slave owners wanted the slaves to count as 1 person.

 

[zinfamous]

Bill Maher gets a lot of things wrong. He totally misrepresents that people viewed blacks as "3/5s of a person". This came about because they did want states that had many slaves to be dis-proportionally given more voting power in the country giving the slave-owners more power. It had nothing to do with thinking of blacks or slaves as inferior to whites. In fact, the slave owners wanted the slaves to count as 1 person.

hey, I learned about the Civil War growing up in the South, too!

...but you're correct.

 

[soundforbjt]

Bill Maher gets a lot of things wrong. He totally misrepresents that people viewed blacks as "3/5s of a person". This came about because they didn't want states that had many slaves to be dis-proportionally given more voting power in the country giving the slave-owners more power. It had nothing to do with thinking of blacks or slaves as inferior to whites. In fact, the slave owners wanted the slaves to count as 1 person.

What other things did he get wrong in his analysis?

 

[LegendKiller]

Bill Maher gets a lot of things wrong. He totally misrepresents that people viewed blacks as "3/5s of a person". This came about because they didn't want states that had many slaves to be dis-proportionally given more voting power in the country giving the slave-owners more power. It had nothing to do with thinking of blacks or slaves as inferior to whites. In fact, the slave owners wanted the slaves to count as 1 person.

Of course they wanted slaves to count as a full person. That way they could elect dis proportionally more delegates while keeping black people from voting. That way they'd be able to perpetuate slavery forever. In fact, the 3/5ths did that for about 90 years, then they just did it through Jim Crow laws. Northerners wanted to force the subject by not counting slaves at all, only "free" men. Instead, they were perfectly happy in counting black people as 3/5ths of a person, because it got them what they wanted, power.

Thomas Jefferson remarked and wrote on several occasions that black people were intellectually inferior to whites. It was one way he justified keeping full voting rights and freedom from his own slaves. IIRC he said something akin to "they need us due to their inferior intelligence".

Of course, according to Teabaggers, you can't criticize Jefferson for being a hypocrite about slavery.

 

[wirednuts]

well yea... if slave owners could count their slaves as a vote then they would have dozens of votes for each slave owner. its not like the owner would say "hey, vote however you want!"

bill mahr is awesome. he does get some things wrong, but he gets 90% of it VERY right.

 

[Zebo]

Video is dead but I'll comment anyway. In historical context the Founding fathers were socialists of the time. I mean free land to the unwashed masses? Later Public Universities? Individual Rights instead of rights of kings? Yeah zoom forward 200 years and they'd be far from teaparty as you can get not just intellectually but politically as well. They actually believed in democracy with "instituted among men and consent of the governed" tea-party not so much who do their damnedest to break that democracy construct with "starve the beast" Hell talk to some teapartiers, my dad says only land owners should be able to vote. And bank gets to vote for them if property has a note out on it. Democracy need not apply.

 

[DrPizza]

Any other sites with the video?

 

[HAL9000]

OK, I did google it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_bag_(sexual_act)

What's a teabagger?

 

[zinfamous]

OK, I did google it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_bag_(sexual_act)

What's a teabagger?

yeah, so they started a political party splintered from the core republican group. their motivations and understanding of history is about as puerile as the sexual act from which they have adopted their name.

it shouldn't surprise you that Sarah Palin has become their de-facto spokesperson and intellectual center (for serious).

 

[HAL9000]

yeah, so they started a political party splintered from the core republican group. their motivations and understanding of history is about as puerile as the sexual act from which they have adopted their name.

it shouldn't surprise you that Sarah Palin has become their de-facto spokesperson and intellectual center (for serious).

That's unfortunate would do they believe in other than the testicle thing?

 

[zinfamous]

That's unfortunate would do they believe in other than the testicle thing?

they believe that Obama is marxist bent on destroying their freedom and selling US citizens into slavery.

or something like that. It's hard to make sense of all the white noise that comes out of that sector.

 

[HAL9000]

they believe that Obama is marxist bent on destroying their freedom and selling US citizens into slavery.

or something like that. It's hard to make sense of all the white noise that comes out of that sector.

Ahh. Well if I ever here from them directly consider them ignored.

 

[wirednuts]

the tea bag party started because the most extremely stupid registered republicans (redundant i know) remembered from 3rd grade that the boston tea party created usa as we know it (something like that). so they adopted that idea and came up with a catch phrase. teabaggers.

it wasnt till about 6 months later did word get to them that in america, teabagger is already taken in urban language. they actually held a meeting to discuss whether or not this teabagger moniker was detrimental to their cause. they deemed it was, but by then it was too late. they wanted to get away from that term, but nobody else would let them off that hook. since then, the teabaggers just got used to it, and now again are proud of the name. suits them for the idiots they are.

 

[Lanyap]

OK, I did google it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_bag_(sexual_act)

What's a teabagger?

The evolution of the word 'tea bagger'
Tea Party activists are outraged by the revelation that Obama once used the term "tea baggers" to describe them. But the coinage wasn't always considered an insult...
posted on May 5, 2010, at 3:21 PM

Was President Obama speaking derogatively when he referred to the Tea Party as "tea baggers"? That's the topic of some debate after a review of Jonathan Alter's book, The Promise: President Obama, Year One, revealed that Obama used the term in November 2009. The grassroots movement didn't always consider "tea bagger" a slur: Early Tea Partiers innocently embraced the term until they discovered its vulgar connotations (see also the 1998 John Waters movie Pecker). In a twist, some conservatives have recently advocated that the word be reclaimed. Here's a look at the evolution of the insult:

Feb. 27, 2009
At the first anti-stimulus "New American Tea Party" rally in Washington D.C., a protestor carries a sign reading "Tea Bag the Liberal Dems before they Tea Bag You!!" The Washington Independent's David Weigel calls it "the best sign I saw."

March 2
Americans for Prosperity, an anti-tax group, is one of the first Tea Party organizations to advocate sending tea bags to elected officials to protest the stimulus package. Several other lobby groups follow suit.

April 1
Several Tea Party protest sites encourage readers to "Tea bag the fools in DC." Jay Nordlinger at National Review Online later admits: "Conservatives started [using the term]... but others ran and ran with it."

April 9
Rachel Maddow is the first to mock the Tea Party's use of the phrase on her left-leaning MSNBC show. "Even Governor Mark Sanford of South Carolina is getting in on the hot tea-bagging action," she says, stifling laughter. (Watch Rachel Maddow joke about the "tea baggers")

April 13
David Shuster, filling in for liberal commentator Keith Olbermann on MSNBC, also makes fun of the phrase. "While the parties are officially toothless, the tea-baggers are full-throated about their goals," he says. Jeff Poor at the Business and Media Insitute says that the MSNBC comments are "lost in juvenile criticism and ignoring the reason there is discontent from the conservative base"

April 14
Anderson Cooper, on his avowedly non-partisan CNN show, makes a similar crack, but later back-pedals, calling his remark a "stupid, silly, one-line aside" that was not meant to "disparage legitimate protests."

September 10
Badges with the message "Proud to be a Tea Bagger" are still on sale at Tea Party events, according to an article written later in the year.

November 10
A report in The New York Times claims the President called Tea Partiers "the teabag, anti-government people" prompting the blog Redstate to respond: "Sexual innuendo is inappropriate in political discourse. The Left and their media tools need a soap bar sandwich to clean up their act."

December 7
In an article for National Review Online, Jay Nordlinger notes that the word is being used so regularly, it is beginning to lose its pejorative association. "'Tory' and 'Whig' were put-downs when they originated," he notes, and "'Yankee Doodle' was none too nice." However, he suggests conservatives should continue to oppose the "lowdown term."

April 14, 2010
Prominent conservative Andrew Breitbart posts a video on the site Big Government in an attempt to reclaim the term. "I'm Proud to be a Tea Bagger" currently has over 90,000 views.

May 4
In his book, Alter quotes Obama saying that GOP opposition to the stimulus package "helped to create the tea-baggers." Grover Norquist, president of the Americans for Tax Reform group, compares it to the pejorative use of the N-word.

http://theweek.com/article/index/202620/the-evolution-of-the-word-tea-bagger



Tea Party members consider themselves Teabaggers and the Left, Teabaggees.

According to columnist Dan Savage, the person whose scrotum is being stimulated is known as "the teabagger" and "the teabaggee" is the one giving the stimulation: "A teabagger dips sack; a teabaggee receives dipped sack."

NSFW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_bag_(sexual_act)

 

[zinfamous]

wha? did Obama actually use the term teabaggers?

:hmm:

:awe: if true.

(that is much better than Bush often using the term "Democrat party" which is an antiquated insult that very few today would understand or even recognize, but an intentional insult, nonetheless--the emphasis on "democrat," rather than "democratic" for the slow readers out there...)

 

[DAPUNISHER]

they believe that Obama is marxist bent on destroying their freedom and selling US citizens into slavery.

or something like that. It's hard to make sense of all the white noise that comes out of that sector.

I am not certain exactly why, but that had me rolling for a minute.