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Best line from his diatribe. "Democrats bring a hug to a knife fight". I've been saying this for a while, start playing HARDBALL
I very strongly agree. Yes, Democrats want to lessen the influence concentrated money has on politics. Guess what though, you have to win first.Best line from his diatribe. "Democrats bring a hug to a knife fight". I've been saying this for a while, start playing HARDBALL
I think that Democrats are afraid that small-d democracy is in danger, and that playing too rough will end up killing it off, i.e. neither party will even attempt to work towards the greater good. And I think that the Democrats who are afraid of this are probably correct to be afraid.
But, at some point the stark difference between a typical, sometimes-corrupt political party and one that has long stopped caring about its descent into open small-f fascism has to be made. Highlighted. And citizens who care, asked to make a choice.
That the President has a close ally who is a known and open mercenary, and that mercenary operator is openly collaborating with openly proud ratfuckers like Project Veritas, should give anyone who cares about small-d democracy pause.
This is just a few steps away from a political secret police, out to sabotage the other political party. This isn't about pearl-clutching. If Obama or any other Democrat had done anything remotely similar, there'd be no end to the "they're coming to take our guns" talking points we're saddled with every 4-8 years that a Democrat continues not taking anyone's guns.
Bill Maher isn't a complete and total buffoon, but he tends to play one on TV. He's half-right. The differences need to discussed openly, but becoming like the Republican party to fight it, is not the answer.
Isn't the value of money that you are able to buy the favor of fools. Isn't politics the business of buying the greater number of fools who will vote? In what universe can you impress people with character or sincerity or truth. The whole point of voting is to vote for the one who will make you rich too, not somebody who wants to turn away money. Don't think of voters as people of character. Campaign as if you were calling hogs.
Money is important, but even worse is that the dems have lost touch with the middle class and are too focused on political correctness or the latest social reform of the day. Not that there is anything wrong per se with that, but they need to address the desperation of the disenfranchised lower and middle classes. Scaramuchi is certainly a sleezebag, but one thing he said on last weeks Bill Maher show was very insightful. That was how Trump won in part because he was able to tap into the economic and social desperation of the lower and middle class. Now the Dems need to attack that, and point out how Trump has not lived up to any of those promises, but instead pushed through a huge tax cut for the rich and give crumbs at best to the middle class.I very strongly agree. Yes, Democrats want to lessen the influence concentrated money has on politics. Guess what though, you have to win first.
The whole "I won't take money from the rich" is stupid. Isn't the whole point of progressive politics to take money from the rich to help the poor?
I have been telling my liberal friends here what fskimospy mentioned above without emphasis on needing money to win because the way to win isn't with more money, it's with the emphasis of your messaging. Democrats, as you point out, are focused to tightly on identity politics in my opinion and on those others left out poor, instead of the economic injustice that destroys democracy and ordinary people's lives. It should not too great an effort,, I think, to point out to the population at large, that it is every color of the economically disadvantaged that need Democrat's help. When you focus on one segment of the population that has been fucked over like Blacks and Hispanics or Muslims, the feeling of fear among poor Whites is easily manipulated to make them feel their wallets are going to be stripped of what little they have to feed 'worthless Other People'.Money is important, but even worse is that the dems have lost touch with the middle class and are too focused on political correctness or the latest social reform of the day. Not that there is anything wrong per se with that, but they need to address the desperation of the disenfranchised lower and middle classes. Scaramuchi is certainly a sleezebag, but one thing he said on last weeks Bill Maher show was very insightful. That was how Trump won in part because he was able to tap into the economic and social desperation of the lower and middle class. Now the Dems need to attack that, and point out how Trump has not lived up to any of those promises, but instead pushed through a huge tax cut for the rich and give crumbs at best to the middle class.
It is really ironic that the Democratic party's full name is Democratic Farmer Labor party, of which both the farmer's and working middle class have abandoned them in droves and support Trump either enthusiastically or for the more rational, begrudgingly.
I have been telling my liberal friends here what fskimospy mentioned above without emphasis on needing money to win because the way to win isn't with more money, it's with the emphasis of your messaging. Democrats, as you point out, are focused to tightly on identity politics in my opinion and on those others left out poor, instead of the economic injustice that destroys democracy and ordinary people's lives. It should not too great an effort,, I think, to point out to the population at large, that it is every color of the economically disadvantaged that need Democrat's help. When you focus on one segment of the population that has been fucked over like Blacks and Hispanics or Muslims, the feeling of fear among poor Whites is easily manipulated to make them feel their wallets are going to be stripped of what little they have to feel 'worthless Other People'.
Democrats have a brain defect and a hidden contempt for people they label as stupid, deplorable, or white trash. Democratic and Republican messaging together make people cause people to feel their inner negativity.
PS: Yang's idea of a universal income would change the world, create tangible good, and greatly reduce citizen insecurity but it can't go a single step because everybody things it will be them who pays others. Why isn't every Democrat on earth out there pushing that? Who is really stupid?
That's what Robbing Hood always said!The whole "I won't take money from the rich" is stupid. Isn't the whole point of progressive politics to take money from the rich to help the poor?
All of us on the "left" want universal health care, but there's a roadmap to get there,, because politics is always and ever the art of the possible, that involves more than one stop along the way. This roadmap does NOT involve making Bernie Sanders the Democratic candidate for the Presidency.Taking millions of dollars in dark money to stop universal health care = "taking money from the rich to help the poor".
But among the American electorate, after the Repub slur machine got done with this "aged, JEWISH communist rumored to have sex with goats" he would end up with a shortage of VOTES. And THAT would give us second term Trump.Embrace the Corruption, is a losing proposition. Bernie has no shortage of Cash, because he has no shortage of Integrity.
It's been asymmetric warfare for decades now. Robert Frost, of all people, had it right: A Liberal is a man, " Too broad minded to take his own side in a quarrel."Best line from his diatribe. "Democrats bring a hug to a knife fight". I've been saying this for a while, start playing HARDBALL
My aim is to tell the truth as I know it. One aspect of truth might be that nobody knows anything who thinks they know things. The truth you have given me here is in my opinion a truth that is true only in a world that is asleep to reality. I think you would be somewhat repelled by what you call truth if you knew the state of consciousness it is true in.Bloomberg bought his way to about 20% nationally without appearing at one debate. Money is a necessary if insufficient condition to win an election.
But among the American electorate, after the Repub slur machine got done with this "aged, JEWISH communist rumored to have sex with goats" he would end up with a shortage of VOTES. And THAT would give us second term Trump.
Wake up and smell our existential emergency. Please hold your ideologically pure nose and help the rest of us elect Joe. Please! Your country needs you. We need you.
This is the same BS excuse made last time. It's just a Strawman. Meanwhile Biden's brain is deteriorating right in front of our eyes.
Exactly. I'm not even a Bernie supporter but the party gets so wrapped up in an amorphous idea of who other people will vote for trying to win over a few unreliable independents instead of expanding its base. Face the facts. You need someone who excites people. Obama (for some reason) excited people. Trump excites people. Hillary did not particularly excite anyone and Biden certainly does not. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good? Don't let the unsupported notion that a candidate will be palatable to others be the enemy of the good either.This is the same BS excuse made last time. It's just a Strawman. Meanwhile Biden's brain is deteriorating right in front of our eyes.
^^No, the last time we ran a listless centrist against Trump it worked out great.
Exactly. I'm not even a Bernie supporter but the party gets so wrapped up in an amorphous idea of who other people will vote for trying to win over a few unreliable independents instead of expanding its base. Face the facts. You need someone who excites people. Obama (for some reason) excited people. Trump excites people. Hillary did not particularly excite anyone and Biden certainly does not. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good? Don't let the unsupported notion that a candidate will be palatable to others be the enemy of the good either.