bill Clinton: Islam politics the world's greatest double standard

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compuwiz1

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I agree with the message, right up, until, I realize he's just greasing the slats for his wife. Politics as usual.
 

mikeymikec

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I agree with the message, right up, until, I realize he's just greasing the slats for his wife. Politics as usual.

If that's the case, you can't judge him too harshly; think how long he's waited for make-up sex. Helping her become the president should just about cancel things out, right?
 
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Nothing shocking here Clinton is best when he breaks a complicated situation down to simple idea's we can all understand
 

JEDIYoda

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Oh look, another name caller claiming someone is "overexaggerating" because Israel doesn't bulldoze houses, and Israel doesn't use white phosphorus...except that they do both.

And then throw in a nice false choice/strawman argument to really gut the conversation. Because clearly, I think Israel should take a really long knife and commit seppuku. Because I'm pointing out observable reality.

Oh, look mommy bottle rockets fired from Palestine are going into random places. Let's go and murder civilians with our more precise bombs.

Because terrorism of a civilian population is wrong!
I agree with you on the settlements issue, but your statement about bulldozing houses in response to rock throwing is grossly dishonest.

Israel bulldozes houses of those definitively shown to be engaging in terrorist attacks against Israel, which includes houses that host missiles fired into Israel or underground tunnels used to send fighters into Israel.
I agree with Shira
 

Jhhnn

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I agree with you on the settlements issue, but your statement about bulldozing houses in response to rock throwing is grossly dishonest. Israel bulldozes houses of those definitively shown to be engaging in terrorist attacks against Israel, which includes houses that host missiles fired into Israel or underground tunnels used to send fighters into Israel.

Please. It's not like the terrorist lived in that house by himself or like the people of Gaza all engage in such activities.

It's group punishment along the lines of Nazi reprisals against whole towns when French partisans attacked German occupation forces.
 

waggy

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amazing. a thread about Bill clinton goes into Israeli bulldozing settlements.


Yeah he was just getting it out for his wife. but I am glad he said it. hopefully she continues on it.
 

nickqt

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Anybody have bets going on who nickqt is? Ivwshane's sock puppet perhaps?

Hey, look, another delusional conservative.

I came here a few days ago to ask a question about a router issue, and wanted to personal message someone, delusional conservative.

I came to find that I needed 25 posts, so at first I hit up the fitness threads, but after 12-15 posts, I'd basically be spamming threads with back-to-back posts to get the last 10 or so, delusional conservative.

So, I spotted the political thread, delusional conservative. That made getting my post count up enough to contact the person I needed to contact very easy, because to mock and make fun of delusional conservatives, such as yourself, all you have to do is point at the delusional things they say, and then point at observable reality.

So no, delusional conservative. I wasn't a previous member who was banned as a fellow delusional conservative posited. And I'm also not a "sock puppet" or "shill" for someone else, as the same delusional conservative also opined.

Also: I love your avatar. It's great seeing a delusional conservative pick for an avatar a caricature of a conservative.

Brilliant!
 

nickqt

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Hey, pencil-neck. if you want to debate Israel make your own thread. stay on topic or get out.

Hey scumbag, read the entire thread to see why I mentioned that topic, before calling me a name. Scumbag.

Here, I'll help you out, scumbag.

It was brought up before I even popped in.

Scumbag.



Now if had some real balls and talked about israel being such a hard assed big bully.

Is self defense an outdated concept; better to roll over when threatened?

hahaha your too funny!!

Let me guess...soon you will be calling for Israel to commit genocide on its own people, by not responding to threats...lol

Is self defense an outdated concept; better to roll over when threatened?
 

TreVader

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Bill has zero room to talk with all his kowtowing to Israel, where was he when the IDF was bombing hospitals and running over American exchange students with bulldozers?


Funny how when the Jews murder innocents on behalf of their own radical religious nation he had nothing to say.
 

cabri

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Bill has zero room to talk with all his kowtowing to Israel, where was he when the IDF was bombing hospitals and running over American exchange students with bulldozers?


Funny how when the Jews murder innocents on behalf of their own radical religious nation he had nothing to say.

when the hospitals are being used for munitions storage and launching; the exclusion of being a hospital should be forfeited.

When a person deliberately places themselves in harms way; they need to be aware of the potential consequence of their actions. the world should not stop because one has a hissy fit.
 

TreVader

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when the hospitals are being used for munitions storage and launching; the exclusion of being a hospital should be forfeited.



When a person deliberately places themselves in harms way; they need to be aware of the potential consequence of their actions. the world should not stop because one has a hissy fit.


Then the Israel should stop throwing a hissy fit about terrorism. They "should of thought of the potential consequences" of occupying foreign land amirite?

Same with all the Jews who die in terrorist attacks elsewhere right? Because they should have known that supporting Israel put them in harms way! Of course!
 

werepossum

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Hey, look, another delusional conservative.

I came here a few days ago to ask a question about a router issue, and wanted to personal message someone, delusional conservative.

I came to find that I needed 25 posts, so at first I hit up the fitness threads, but after 12-15 posts, I'd basically be spamming threads with back-to-back posts to get the last 10 or so, delusional conservative.

So, I spotted the political thread, delusional conservative. That made getting my post count up enough to contact the person I needed to contact very easy, because to mock and make fun of delusional conservatives, such as yourself, all you have to do is point at the delusional things they say, and then point at observable reality.

So no, delusional conservative. I wasn't a previous member who was banned as a fellow delusional conservative posited. And I'm also not a "sock puppet" or "shill" for someone else, as the same delusional conservative also opined.

Also: I love your avatar. It's great seeing a delusional conservative pick for an avatar a caricature of a conservative.

Brilliant!
A lot of people have trouble believing that someone can step in and be such a clueless dickhead from day one. That's why you get those comments. Personally I believe you have natural talent, but surely you can see why others might be skeptical that you can reach the rarified upper rungs of asshattery without any kind of wind-up or warm-up. Not many people can just jump up on the moron-mill when it's running on 10 without falling flat on their faces. You, however, are skipping.

But as I said, personally I believe you're special, Sunshine.
 

cabri

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Then the Israel should stop throwing a hissy fit about terrorism. They "should of thought of the potential consequences" of occupying foreign land amirite?

Same with all the Jews who die in terrorist attacks elsewhere right? Because they should have known that supporting Israel put them in harms way! Of course!

Possibly, Israel should then take off the gloves and treat attacks as attacks instead of pinpricks until they become seriously painful. they are doing such in Syria; attacking Hezbollah logistics because they know the eventually Hezbollah will attack again. Seeing how Hezbollah is intertwined with Lebanon and both Lebanon and Syria have not made peace with Israel; fair game.

It was the Arabs that tried to wipe out the Jews of Israel; The Arabs were unwilling to honor their agreement with the UN.

Israel has stood down multiple times; the Arabs & Palestinians need conflict to justify their frustration over he lot they dealt themselves; They were owned and continually desire a repeat game; but they want the rules to be in their favor and not be called on for cheating.

Israel blockaded Gaza because of the Palestinian actions; yet very few complain about Egypt doing of such.

the Palestinians want it all and they will not get it; they know it and refuse to publicly admit/allow it.
And therefore they suffer the consequences of their actions.
 
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JEDIYoda

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

Isreali Bulldozers for Peace!

Great band name, because they've never been used aggressively.

And of course, we can't point at the perpetual victims as aggressive... ever.

Otherwise it's just anti-semitism, or something to be ignored, because MOOOSELEMMMS!
You drink way too much anti Israel koolaid!!
As Shira said -- I agree with you on the settlements issue, but your statement about bulldozing houses in response to rock throwing is grossly dishonest.


Then we have from the wiki article you posted --
The exact nature of her death and the culpability of the bulldozer operator are disputed, with fellow ISM protestors saying that the Israeli soldier operating the bulldozer deliberately ran over Corrie, and Israeli eyewitnesses saying that it was an accident since the bulldozer operator could not see her.[10][11][12][13]

There are on going law suits....none of which has been decided...
So what are the chances of an activist being killed by trying to block a bulldozer...well duh.....
 
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BoberFett

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Hey, look, another delusional conservative.

I came here a few days ago to ask a question about a router issue, and wanted to personal message someone, delusional conservative.

I came to find that I needed 25 posts, so at first I hit up the fitness threads, but after 12-15 posts, I'd basically be spamming threads with back-to-back posts to get the last 10 or so, delusional conservative.

So, I spotted the political thread, delusional conservative. That made getting my post count up enough to contact the person I needed to contact very easy, because to mock and make fun of delusional conservatives, such as yourself, all you have to do is point at the delusional things they say, and then point at observable reality.

So no, delusional conservative. I wasn't a previous member who was banned as a fellow delusional conservative posited. And I'm also not a "sock puppet" or "shill" for someone else, as the same delusional conservative also opined.

Also: I love your avatar. It's great seeing a delusional conservative pick for an avatar a caricature of a conservative.

Brilliant!

I'm not sure what rock your crawled out from under, but until you've evolved beyond the invertabrate stage, you might want to slither back.
 

HomerJS

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"If you come to our country, we won’t let you worship the way you want. We won’t let you say what you want. They won’t let you do what you want to do,” Clinton continued. “However we have come to your country, therefore we have a right to do whatever we want to do, including kill you if you make us mad.”

Props to Clinton for speaking some rare common sense.

Unless you try building a community center 4 blocks from 1 World Trade. Righties get their thongs in a bunch.
 

Black Octagon

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"If you come to our country, we won’t let you worship the way you want. We won’t let you say what you want. They won’t let you do what you want to do,” Clinton continued. “However we have come to your country, therefore we have a right to do whatever we want to do, including kill you if you make us mad.”

Props to Clinton for speaking some rare common sense.


Yes, very nice turn of phrase.

I even agree with the sentiment.

Except for, you know, the fact that the Kouachi brothers were Frenchmen and Paris-born at that.

So the references to "your country" and " our country" don't really work, do they?

But yeah, let's not let those annoying facts get in the way of a good circle jerk, eh?
 

nickqt

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I'm not sure what rock your crawled out from under, but until you've evolved beyond the invertabrate stage, you might want to slither back.
I don't know why you think I care about the lousy insults you fling at me, but until you make any substantive remark, you might want to waste your time elsewhere.