Bikers & wanna-be's here's a test for you, post your score

[Pliablemoose]

A total of 48 multiple choice questions will be presented, which are broken into three sets of questions. Don't worry if you don't know the answer. You will be provided with the correct answer and information to help your understanding.

MSF Basic RiderCourse web review

Post your scores & tell us what you ride or what you wanna ride

 

[Pliablemoose]

44 out of 48.

I want an XLCR or to mod a hog to look like one.

 

[yobarman]

32 out of 48, which aint bad seeing how i don't ride. Thinkin about getting a beater sports bike this summer though

 

[Aves]

You correctly answered 45 questions out of 48.

I've never ridden.

 

[bigredguy]

42/48
Not bad considering i have never been on a bike in my life.

 

[C'DaleRider]

You correctly answered 47 questions out of 48.

 

[Grouchyoldguy]

You correctly answered 42 questions out of 48.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Got 42 out of 48 and took it fast.

79 Moto Guzzi. 77 900ss Ducati awaiting restoration. I've had ownership of maybe 20 bikes counting off-road types.

Original XLCRs are collectible. I favor the XR1000

Total life time miles ridden, at least 180k. Mr.Moose everyone that rides should have a full understanding of what
counter steering is, Google it. Riders fought over this dynamic of m/c riding for years.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Nailed 'em all. It's pretty easy to identify the answers that are supposed to be "right". I disagree with some of them though. For example, the idea that you should watch 12 seconds ahead of you for problems, that's true but misleading. You should watch _everywhere_ for problems.

I've got an '82 Honda CB450SC. 8,000 miles on it, I've put about 2,000 on it since I bought it 4 years ago.

ZV

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Got 42 out of 48 and took it fast.

79 Moto Guzzi. 77 900ss Ducati awaiting restoration. I've had ownership of maybe 20 bikes counting off-road types.

Original XLCRs are collectible. I favor the XR1000

Total life time miles ridden, at least 180k. Mr.Moose everyone that rides should have a full understanding of what
counter steering is, Google it. Riders fought over this dynamic of m/c riding for years.

Agreed, I've had 11 bikes, ~100K miles, quit riding & teaching the MSF class isn 99'.

The XR1000 is pretty neat, but honestly I prob won't own any more bikes

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Mr.Moose everyone that rides should have a full understanding of what counter steering is, Google it. Riders fought over this dynamic of m/c riding for years.

I think that the description of it is way off. I don't mess with the handlebars for turning at all except at low speeds. I just lean and let the handlebars move as is natural to them. I mean, I don't let go of them, but I don't actively try to counter-steer, I just lean into a corner and the bike counter-steers naturally.

ZV

 

[BillGates]

I already took this exam in my actual MSF class and got a 48/48 on the paper exam. My instructor was impressed.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Mr.Moose everyone that rides should have a full understanding of what counter steering is, Google it. Riders fought over this dynamic of m/c riding for years.

I think that the description of it is way off. I don't mess with the handlebars for turning at all except at low speeds. I just lean and let the handlebars move as is natural to them. I mean, I don't let go of them, but I don't actively try to counter-steer, I just lean into a corner and the bike counter-steers naturally.

ZV

by applying pressure, you turn sharper, you countersteer naturally (or your bike does), by applying pressure, you enhance the effect, seems counter-intuitive, but play with it a little, the gyroscopic force of you front wheel is such that you can't really unsettle it without some serious input.

I started playing with it in the 70's to initiate lane changes & developed some skill playing with it.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Mr.Moose everyone that rides should have a full understanding of what counter steering is, Google it. Riders fought over this dynamic of m/c riding for years.

I think that the description of it is way off. I don't mess with the handlebars for turning at all except at low speeds. I just lean and let the handlebars move as is natural to them. I mean, I don't let go of them, but I don't actively try to counter-steer, I just lean into a corner and the bike counter-steers naturally.

ZV

by applying pressure, you turn sharper, you countersteer naturally (or your bike does), by applying pressure, you enhance the effect, seems counter-intuitive, but play with it a little, the gyroscopic force of you front wheel is such that you can't really unsettle it without some serious input.

I started playing with it in the 70's to initiate lane changes & developed some skill playing with it.

Yeah, I've played with it consciously, but it seems to work best when I ride by feel. The biggest thing I learned what to tilt my head so that the horizon remaind horizontal in turns.

ZV

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Mr.Moose everyone that rides should have a full understanding of what counter steering is, Google it. Riders fought over this dynamic of m/c riding for years.

I think that the description of it is way off. I don't mess with the handlebars for turning at all except at low speeds. I just lean and let the handlebars move as is natural to them. I mean, I don't let go of them, but I don't actively try to counter-steer, I just lean into a corner and the bike counter-steers naturally.

ZV

That is exactly what most do for a casual riding style ZV. Riding at 8/10 or harder demands upper body strength
input into the bars. In my two-up,full load touring days rounding a blind turn with softball sized rocks at the apex,
that's when being able to change line by counter steering comes into play. Motorcycles can be muscled around,
it just takes practice and commitment. The trust of the pillion is a must and is never to be considered a passenger
but a co-rider of the motorcycle. Study counter steering, the dynamics will be explained better than I can do it here.

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Mr.Moose everyone that rides should have a full understanding of what counter steering is, Google it. Riders fought over this dynamic of m/c riding for years.

I think that the description of it is way off. I don't mess with the handlebars for turning at all except at low speeds. I just lean and let the handlebars move as is natural to them. I mean, I don't let go of them, but I don't actively try to counter-steer, I just lean into a corner and the bike counter-steers naturally.

ZV

by applying pressure, you turn sharper, you countersteer naturally (or your bike does), by applying pressure, you enhance the effect, seems counter-intuitive, but play with it a little, the gyroscopic force of you front wheel is such that you can't really unsettle it without some serious input.

I started playing with it in the 70's to initiate lane changes & developed some skill playing with it.

Yeah, it definitely does help you to turn sharper and more quickly. Without countersteering, I'm curious how you would swerve out of the way of an obstruction/obstacle/whatever...?

Then again, I'm a youngin' and have known about countersteering since I started riding. Exactly what about it did riders fight over, though...the need to do it, or the fact that it occurred in the first place?

 

[Bulk Beef]

Without countersteering, I'm curious how you would swerve out of the way of an obstruction/obstacle/whatever...?

You wouldn't - counter-steering is the ONLY way that a motorcycle (or any single-track vehicle) turns at anything above a walking pace, whether the operator is aware of it or not.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Mr.Moose everyone that rides should have a full understanding of what counter steering is, Google it. Riders fought over this dynamic of m/c riding for years.

I think that the description of it is way off. I don't mess with the handlebars for turning at all except at low speeds. I just lean and let the handlebars move as is natural to them. I mean, I don't let go of them, but I don't actively try to counter-steer, I just lean into a corner and the bike counter-steers naturally.

ZV

by applying pressure, you turn sharper, you countersteer naturally (or your bike does), by applying pressure, you enhance the effect, seems counter-intuitive, but play with it a little, the gyroscopic force of you front wheel is such that you can't really unsettle it without some serious input.

I started playing with it in the 70's to initiate lane changes & developed some skill playing with it.

Yeah, it definitely does help you to turn sharper and more quickly. Without countersteering, I'm curious how you would swerve out of the way of an obstruction/obstacle/whatever...?

Then again, I'm a youngin' and have known about countersteering since I started riding. Exactly what about it did riders fight over, though...the need to do it, or the fact that it occurred in the first place?

If you lean, your bike countersteers itself, just not as quickly or as precisely compared to some experienced handlebar input.