Which Intel CPU has the biggest overclocking potential: Pentium E2160, E2180, or E2200? Do any of you have experiences with these CPUs? What's the highest clock speed these procs have achieved?
Biggest overclocking potential?
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E2160 x09 max. multiplierE2180 x10 max. multiplier
E2200 x11 max. multiplier
Otherwise they're effectively identical except due to any binning that only Intel knows about.
People often run these about 3.0GHz to 3.2GHz.
I think I've seen someone mention something close to 3.7GHz somewhere but that must have been under fairly extreme circumstances -- golden chip, excellent cooling, not totally stable, whatever.
Since 9x400 = 3600 at a motherboard base clock of 400 MHz you can attempt to hit 3.6GHz on any of those parts, so if you have DDR2-800 RAM and a motherboard that clocks to 400 MHz well then really your results should be similar with any of those models at 400/3600.
E2200 hits 3600 @ 11x327 MHz input, so if your MB doesn't OC well or if you're using DDR2-667 memory, that's a better option since it requires only a slower input clock frequency.
E2180 = 3600 @ 360x10, so in the middle.
It just depends on what your RAM and Motherboard can overclock to and how good your CPU and cooling for the CPU / northbridge is and how good the motherboard CPU power circuits and PSU power circuits are...
Most motherboards that have a BIOS that is flexible for overclocking/overvolting and which have even a modest reputation for overclocking well should be able to generate overclocks in the 400-450 MHz range, much higher than needed to max. out any of these CPUs, so really the limiting factor is how high the CPU/RAM can go if your MB and PSU and cooling is not a limit.
I'd get a cheap motherboard like the ABIT IP35-E from Newegg for $60 after slow rebate and assume that'll hit 300-333 MHz clocks no problem with a fan on the NB/PWM sinks,
so 333x9 = 3GHz should be pretty easily possible on even the slowest/cheapest of those CPUs with DDR2-667 or better RAM.
Tigerdirect had the E2180 for $49 AR lately.. sold out.. don't know if they'll get more at that price.. that was a decent deal, get the link from the hot deals forum here and check it out. ClubIT has a free Lost Planet game with the 2160 for like $67 I think....
You'll need something better than the default Intel heatsink if you want to get the most out of any of these CPUs beyond about 2400 or so I'd think.
E2200 x11 max. multiplier
Otherwise they're effectively identical except due to any binning that only Intel knows about.
People often run these about 3.0GHz to 3.2GHz.
I think I've seen someone mention something close to 3.7GHz somewhere but that must have been under fairly extreme circumstances -- golden chip, excellent cooling, not totally stable, whatever.
Since 9x400 = 3600 at a motherboard base clock of 400 MHz you can attempt to hit 3.6GHz on any of those parts, so if you have DDR2-800 RAM and a motherboard that clocks to 400 MHz well then really your results should be similar with any of those models at 400/3600.
E2200 hits 3600 @ 11x327 MHz input, so if your MB doesn't OC well or if you're using DDR2-667 memory, that's a better option since it requires only a slower input clock frequency.
E2180 = 3600 @ 360x10, so in the middle.
It just depends on what your RAM and Motherboard can overclock to and how good your CPU and cooling for the CPU / northbridge is and how good the motherboard CPU power circuits and PSU power circuits are...
Most motherboards that have a BIOS that is flexible for overclocking/overvolting and which have even a modest reputation for overclocking well should be able to generate overclocks in the 400-450 MHz range, much higher than needed to max. out any of these CPUs, so really the limiting factor is how high the CPU/RAM can go if your MB and PSU and cooling is not a limit.
I'd get a cheap motherboard like the ABIT IP35-E from Newegg for $60 after slow rebate and assume that'll hit 300-333 MHz clocks no problem with a fan on the NB/PWM sinks,
so 333x9 = 3GHz should be pretty easily possible on even the slowest/cheapest of those CPUs with DDR2-667 or better RAM.
Tigerdirect had the E2180 for $49 AR lately.. sold out.. don't know if they'll get more at that price.. that was a decent deal, get the link from the hot deals forum here and check it out. ClubIT has a free Lost Planet game with the 2160 for like $67 I think....
You'll need something better than the default Intel heatsink if you want to get the most out of any of these CPUs beyond about 2400 or so I'd think.
what do you mean by overclocking potential?
the E2140 can potentially achieve a 100% overclock, going from 1.6 to 3.2GHz... Of the ones you listed, the E2160 would have the greatest potential in that regard.
If you're talking about highest final maximum clock, all of these chips are most likely going to top out @ 3.0-3.2GHz for a stable overclock with reasonable volts. Intel probably doesn't do any sort of selective binning because all of these chips are well under their max potential.
I'd recommend the E2160 and shoot for what should be a relatively easy 3GHz (9 x 333)
the E2140 can potentially achieve a 100% overclock, going from 1.6 to 3.2GHz... Of the ones you listed, the E2160 would have the greatest potential in that regard.
If you're talking about highest final maximum clock, all of these chips are most likely going to top out @ 3.0-3.2GHz for a stable overclock with reasonable volts. Intel probably doesn't do any sort of selective binning because all of these chips are well under their max potential.
I'd recommend the E2160 and shoot for what should be a relatively easy 3GHz (9 x 333)
Running my E2160 @ 2.4 (9x266) at stock vcore & stock HSF. Went up to 3.0 (9x333) stable at 1.3? V (forgot the exact number but it was less than 1.38 V) but didn't like the temps I was getting at load.
I went with the e2180 so I had the extra multiplier to work with. I'm 10x340 right now. Just make sure you get a good CPU cooler. I'd recommend the Tuniq Tower. I don't have the Tuniq, I have the Thermalright Ultra 120, but I've realized the design of the Tuniq Tower, where the fan is at the back of the case and pulls the air over the Tuniq and straight out the back is the best for airflow. The way my Ultra-120 is right now, some of the air gets recirculated before being blown out the back. Hurts my temps of course.
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I'm currently running my E2160 at 8 X 333 = 2.66Ghz undervolted to 1.28
Tried 9 X 333 undervolted and it didn't work too well.
Tried 9 X 333 undervolted and it didn't work too well.
I have a e2200. These 2x00 series have the same problem. Once you pass 3.2Ghz you need to give it a lot of Voltage to get another 100mhz, diminishing returns. Save 20-30 bucks and get a 2160 and thats plenty fast already.
It all depends on the price but I'd say the 2180 is still the sweet spot. It has a multiplier of 10 with allows you to hit 3.33ghz at a standard 333mhz bus. of course that is assuming your chip is capable of 3.33ghz (mine was not). If you care about overclocking down to the mhz then the 2200 is probably better as you have one more multiplier to work with.
If you look at the Potential, then it comes down to the luck of the draw. All of these chips should hit 3.0 Ghz on air, but some my clock to 3.2 ~ 3.6 depending on the binning.
I'd say get the largest cache, and then the cheapest chip...bang for the buck...
I'd say get the largest cache, and then the cheapest chip...bang for the buck...
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