Big Typhoon Vx or Zalman 9700 NT?
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DrMrLordX
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If you need a top-down HSF for some reason I'd go with the Big Typhoon VX, just be aware that you can improve performance by putting up to a 110 cfm fan on there (anything more is overkill), but the included 86.5 cfm fan is fine too. The Silverstone FM-121 + Big Typhoon is a good combo, but only if you need top-down HSF action. It will certainly do better than the CNPS9700.
For raw performance the Ultra 120 eXtreme would be a better choice (instead of the CNPS9700, which is just not a good choice at all except for bling purposes). Some folks swear that the Tuniq is #2 (or #3 behind the original Ultra 120) but I give the Big Typhoon credit for being able to beat the Tuniq Tower in some open-air testbeds. I would personally take the Big Typhoon VX, even with its stock fan, over the Tuniq Tower provided you have plenty of vertical breathing room available. If you do not (close side door/panel or poor side door/panel ventilation + no exhaust) the Big Typhoon will suffer.
For raw performance the Ultra 120 eXtreme would be a better choice (instead of the CNPS9700, which is just not a good choice at all except for bling purposes). Some folks swear that the Tuniq is #2 (or #3 behind the original Ultra 120) but I give the Big Typhoon credit for being able to beat the Tuniq Tower in some open-air testbeds. I would personally take the Big Typhoon VX, even with its stock fan, over the Tuniq Tower provided you have plenty of vertical breathing room available. If you do not (close side door/panel or poor side door/panel ventilation + no exhaust) the Big Typhoon will suffer.
They are in the same price range, and the Tuniq kicks ass. I would go with it over the choices he provided.
Its not about looks to enthusiasts, its about performance.
Yes now you're getting the point.
But the 120Ex has problems, IMHO the Tuniq beats the hell out of it.
But the 120Ex has problems, IMHO the Tuniq beats the hell out of it.
DrMrLordX
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Problems that can be sorted out by a simple lap job on the HSF and IHS (and in some cases where the HSF deformities match those of the IHS, this is unnecessary). The Tuniq is good, but it loses to the Ultra 120 and Ultra 120 eXtreme and can lose to the Big Typhoon VX in certain cases. Without knowing the OP's rig it's hard to really recommend one over the other since we don't know what would or would not fit and what kind of airflow he has.
Yes true.
But most people don't want to fix a problem thats not their fault. I would got with which ever was in stock. Except for the Big Typhoon, looks ugly as hell.
But most people don't want to fix a problem thats not their fault. I would got with which ever was in stock. Except for the Big Typhoon, looks ugly as hell.
Yea yea. Got me there.
Well if I must, I will continue my reasoning.
Its older, to wide meant for a 120mm fan to be put on top of it. Facing down, which takes up allot of room. And thus harder to get to the ram.
And I hate the fact that space is wasted. How? Well you notice how it has about 2.5"s of space under it? Well thats wasted cooling, if it were built with fins coving all of that, it would be MUCH better.
Oh and I for the books, I have NEVER considered ordering a Big Typhoon. Though I have thought about ordering the 120ex, and the Tuniq.
I like things that are smaller, and pack more of a punch.
Tyler
Well if I must, I will continue my reasoning.
Its older, to wide meant for a 120mm fan to be put on top of it. Facing down, which takes up allot of room. And thus harder to get to the ram.
And I hate the fact that space is wasted. How? Well you notice how it has about 2.5"s of space under it? Well thats wasted cooling, if it were built with fins coving all of that, it would be MUCH better.
Oh and I for the books, I have NEVER considered ordering a Big Typhoon. Though I have thought about ordering the 120ex, and the Tuniq.
I like things that are smaller, and pack more of a punch.
Tyler
DrMrLordX
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Some folks have taken to sticking copper RAMsinks all over the top of their Big Typhoon's base, though the performance increase from doing that is usually only 1-2C. I might do it anyway if I ever put mine on a quad.
I heartily suspect that the Big Typhoon would weigh too darn much if it had that many more fins on it, though. More fins would be nice, I do agree!
I heartily suspect that the Big Typhoon would weigh too darn much if it had that many more fins on it, though. More fins would be nice, I do agree!
Well heavy yes, but... there is a chance.
The Tuniq comes with a backplate, and when turned over on its side the baclplate takes all the weight. Which spreads it out over a 2.5"x2.5" area. Instead of over 4 small holes, and that makes a difference.
The Tuniq comes with a backplate, and when turned over on its side the baclplate takes all the weight. Which spreads it out over a 2.5"x2.5" area. Instead of over 4 small holes, and that makes a difference.
Ika
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My case can't take a 120mm tower heatsink. That's the only reason I'm using a Big Typhoon right now. I know there are lots of other cases that won't fit a Tuniq or an Ultra 120ex... The Big Typhoon (VX or not) is the best-performing heatsink you can get without going to a 120mm tower heatsink (most are 150mm or higher).
I already bought the big typhoon, but had a second thought as it is so big.
The Tuniq is not an option as the store I bought from doesn't have it.
My rig is:
p182 case.
q6600.
gigabyte Ds3R.
Two or three sata hd's.
Evga 8800 GTX.
Thanks for the help.
The Tuniq is not an option as the store I bought from doesn't have it.
My rig is:
p182 case.
q6600.
gigabyte Ds3R.
Two or three sata hd's.
Evga 8800 GTX.
Thanks for the help.
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My benchmarking:
E6400 @ 3.4ghz load 1.36V = 51*C with Big Typhoon at 2100rpm running BOINC
However, this is the regular version and not the VX version. The regular version has backplate and not a clipping method which from what I've read doesn't sit as tight to the cpu; thus losing some performance.
Q6600 @ 2.4ghz load = 48-55*C with Tuniq Tower at 1800rpm running BOINC
Q6600 @ 3.4ghz load 1.37V = 58-65*C between 4 cores with Tuniq Tower at 1800rpm running BOINC
You might also check out the cheaper Cooler Master 212 - 212 vs. 9700
E6400 @ 3.4ghz load 1.36V = 51*C with Big Typhoon at 2100rpm running BOINC
However, this is the regular version and not the VX version. The regular version has backplate and not a clipping method which from what I've read doesn't sit as tight to the cpu; thus losing some performance.
Q6600 @ 2.4ghz load = 48-55*C with Tuniq Tower at 1800rpm running BOINC
Q6600 @ 3.4ghz load 1.37V = 58-65*C between 4 cores with Tuniq Tower at 1800rpm running BOINC
You might also check out the cheaper Cooler Master 212 - 212 vs. 9700
Thank you all for your help.
I went with the Big Typhoon for now.
I'll try to overclock and post some results.
I went with the Big Typhoon for now.
I'll try to overclock and post some results.
What makes you say that re: the 9700? I haven't seen one review where it isn't considered a tier 1 cooler, one of the best... Perhaps you've done your own testing?
Regards,
Yes - the Tuniq is one of the top two or three air-driven coolers in existence. Pretty quiet too. Judging by comparative reviews, the AC is a terrific cooler for stock to mid-level overclocks, and is also very quiet (easier to fit in cases too.)
I'm currently running at 3Ghz, fan speed is 667rpm, cpu temp is 35C (system temp is 47C).
Memory freq is 835Mhz (crucial balistix 800mhz).
I tried to run at 3.2Ghz (memory at 1000Mhz), it wasn't stable.
Memory freq is 835Mhz (crucial balistix 800mhz).
I tried to run at 3.2Ghz (memory at 1000Mhz), it wasn't stable.
DrMrLordX
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Well here's one indicator . . .
http://www.anandtech.com/casec...howdoc.aspx?i=3068&p=4
And that's one of the more favorable reviews of the CNPS9700 I've seen. Realistically speaking top-down champs like the Big Typhoon VX and the Enzotech Ultra-X should beat the Zalman, but the peculiarities of Anandtech's benchmark platform (then and probably now) prevent top-downs from turning in a good showing. Nevertheless, the CNPS9700 which often sells at a price of $60 or more (sometimes much more) loses to the Tuniq Tower and others that can be had for as much or less. The CNPS9700 also will not accept a replacement fan, thereby depriving the buyer of choosing their own fan for noise or performance reasons.
You could consider it "tier 1" if you wanted, but really it serves no purpose other than to look good and do a reasonably good job of keeping a CPU cool in a standard front-to-back windtunnel cooling situation.
Not bad. Have you tried pushing the fan to its maximum speed? 667 rpm is pretty low.
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