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Big time overclocker I just got! Saphire 9500np with straight mem.

funboy6942

funboy6942

Lifer
I recently had to sell my 9500 pro because I was and am in need of money. I ended up selling it and a couple days later newegg had a saphire on sale with the straight mem for $95 shipped. I figured what the heck the tnt 64 pci I ended up using wasnt cutting the cheese and if I bought it and was lucky enough to soft mod it to my old 9500 pro I'd be happy.

Well i got it yesterday and used the omega driver on it and jumped from stock 8700 pts to 9200 points with 2k1 just soft moding it.
I decided what the hell you live once lets see what it can do. This time I used 2k3. My old score with my ati 9500 pro with a 2100+ cpu and the card oc'd as far as it would go with out artifacts was 3343.
I got my new 9500 up as far as 360/295 without artifacts but decided to lower it a bit for the test to 350/290. I also had to sell my 2100+ and am stuck using a 1600+ now for this test.
Well anyway I got 3715 with a slower cpu! I had no idea it would go as far as it did tottaly stock and no artifacts at all! I tried to oc it to 370/295 but when I did I lost video but hell heres my new card a supposedly pos 9500 with straight mem that can hit 360/295 on stock cooling. IMO it kicks ass!

If you dont believe me heres my link. Click here.

Anyway I thought I would share this because I am more then happy with my purchase and if someone like me who's on a tight budget can still benifet from the straight mem 9500 for a lower price.
Thanks for reading!

PS I have no plans on selling it unless you make me a hell of an offer to make me think twice on it 😛
******EDIT****** Well I may have to sell it. Im about to get screwed next month and I will decide if the money I get from selling it will help my situation. At this point probably wont so unless I need food money I will let it go.*****
 
From what I have read and asked about. L shaped 9500np is supposed to do 9700 speeds because it has a 256 something or other where the straight mem is 128 something or other. Any way if it is able to or not this thing still rocks and got a better score them my old ati 9500 pro I sold 🙂 and alot cheaper too I might add 😉
 
Originally posted by: shady06
9500 straight mem can still be modded into a 9500 pro no?
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Yep...9500 pro has 128 bit memory and 8 pipes. 9500np has 128 bit and 4 pipes. So unlock the 4 other pipes and you got a pro.

Glad you're happy with it. This is definitely another good option. A 9500np for $95 isn't bad, especially when it's possible it'll mod up to a 9500 pro.
 
You bet the price was right🙂 I wanted to get the L shape memory but my budget didnt quite fit and then I was like screw it I will get either on straight or L shape and newegg had the special on this for like a day and I got it with only three left in stock. I couldnt be happier right now having the 9500 pro speeds back and then a hell of alot more. I ran the x2 demo and posted my scores. I got 53 average on a 1600+ Another member got 70+ average score with a 9700 pro using a 2500+. I wish I had the money to get that cpu so I can see just how close this is to 9700 speeds now 🙂 It has to be close at 360/295. Sure the mem isnt there but if I get some better cooling I bet it will go faster.
BTW are Etrontech mem chips any good does anyone know? # on the chips are H130409MEH30076
 
Anyone know anything about the chips I mentioned above like quality, what speed they run, highest they will go? I am a mega newbi to overclocking. And if soemone can help me to learn how to overclock a cpu and has the time to take with me I would greatly appreciate it alot as well 🙂
 
You're asking about Etrontech because that's what your Sapphire 9500NP uses?

From the model #, it sounds like 3.0ns memory. Anyone who knows better may feel free to correct me. Theoretically 3.0ns memory should be spec'ed to run up to 333mhz. (But I thought the 9500NP's used 3.3ns memory)

What was the max speed you got your memory to run at? Stock mem speed is 270mhz, correct?

 
Well I dont know what mem I only got the card because Im broke and needed cash and this thing just happened to be on sale a few days later for a steal.
I traded some dvd's for a Zalman's heat pipe gpu cooler and got it to 375/320 with no artifacts and got a new score of 9953. I am too afraid to push it any further I really need the card to last but I am stoked it went that far from a stock 275/270.
I been running it at 320/315 stable on all games so far with no artifacts so does that make it a 9700pro becuase I soft moded it and its running slightly faster then a 9700pro?

My new 3dmark score
 
I thought the 9500np were on the 256bit and the 9500pro were the 128 and that was why you couldnt turn the 9500pro into a 9700?
 
Originally posted by: Rogodin2
That's awesome!

BUT

It doesn't beat my stock sapphire 9800nonpro with 3.3ns samsung that runs 443/401 (only mod is a bios flash) for everyday use and when I really want to push it: 450/405.

rogo

URL: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1437851
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lol, we're talking about vastly different cards so youre comparison is irrelevant. You paid far more for your 9800 than he did for his 9500, so he naturally is talking about the value of his card, which at $95 is much better than yours. 😀:beer:
 
For $95 you might have considered a 128MB Ti4200. A good overclocking one would have gotten you 11K in 3DMark 2001 and been faster in all current games. I wouldn't worry about DirectX9 yet, and when it's actually used in games we can play the 4200 or 9500 non-pro probably won't be fast enough.
 
Originally posted by: rogue1979
For $95 you might have considered a 128MB Ti4200. A good overclocking one would have gotten you 11K in 3DMark 2001 and been faster in all current games. I wouldn't worry about DirectX9 yet, and when it's actually used in games we can play the 4200 or 9500 non-pro probably won't be fast enough.
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I had a good overclocking ti4200 (Albatron) and replaced it with a good overclocking 9500Pro. The 9500Pro would score a little higher than the ti4200 in 3DMark, and absolutely blew it out of the water once you add in AA/AF. It was even faster than the ti4600 in AA/AF!
 
Originally posted by: mamisano
Originally posted by: rogue1979
For $95 you might have considered a 128MB Ti4200. A good overclocking one would have gotten you 11K in 3DMark 2001 and been faster in all current games. I wouldn't worry about DirectX9 yet, and when it's actually used in games we can play the 4200 or 9500 non-pro probably won't be fast enough.
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I had a good overclocking ti4200 (Albatron) and replaced it with a good overclocking 9500Pro. The 9500Pro would score a little higher than the ti4200 in 3DMark, and absolutely blew it out of the water once you add in AA/AF. It was even faster than the ti4600 in AA/AF!
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Your quite right of course. But unless I'm mistaken he got the 9500 with straight memory. I know only the 9500 with L-shaped memory has a chance of being modded to both the 256-bit memory bus and 8 pipelines. Can a straight memory 9500 be hacked to 8 pipelines? I was thinking that only the L-shaped cards that were really on 9700 PCB had the support for 8 pipelines, and the straight 9500 only existed with 4 pipelines. Could be wrong, but I was basing my opinion on a 4 pipeline 9500 card.
 
I was sad to see my pro go and when I bought this card I wasnt very thrilled but after it took the soft mod and I am able to overclock it big time and get a better score then my pro go I am just thrilled 🙂
 
Originally posted by: rogue1979
Originally posted by: mamisano
Originally posted by: rogue1979
For $95 you might have considered a 128MB Ti4200. A good overclocking one would have gotten you 11K in 3DMark 2001 and been faster in all current games. I wouldn't worry about DirectX9 yet, and when it's actually used in games we can play the 4200 or 9500 non-pro probably won't be fast enough.
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I had a good overclocking ti4200 (Albatron) and replaced it with a good overclocking 9500Pro. The 9500Pro would score a little higher than the ti4200 in 3DMark, and absolutely blew it out of the water once you add in AA/AF. It was even faster than the ti4600 in AA/AF!
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Your quite right of course. But unless I'm mistaken he got the 9500 with straight memory. I know only the 9500 with L-shaped memory has a chance of being modded to both the 256-bit memory bus and 8 pipelines. Can a straight memory 9500 be hacked to 8 pipelines? I was thinking that only the L-shaped cards that were really on 9700 PCB had the support for 8 pipelines, and the straight 9500 only existed with 4 pipelines. Could be wrong, but I was basing my opinion on a 4 pipeline 9500 card.
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9500np with straight memory has a 128 bit bus and 4 pipes.
9500np with L memory has 256 bit bus and 4 pipes.

With both you can attempt to open up the 4 additional pipes, giving you 8 total.

8 pipes + 128 bit bus = 9500 pro
8 pipes + 256 bit bus = 9700 pro

So therefore his is a 9500 pro, since it has straight memory. And a 9500 pro will of course outperform that ti4200 pretty well.

If you're confused about the cards that can softmod, read the faq
here
 
Whit having a pro before getting this card I can say this. before the soft mod this card was a bit slower, after the soft mod it out performed my pro by far, and then after bumping up the clock speeds I was able to go way beyond what my pro would max at and I got a huge score well past my pro. So I can understand it after soft moding it it turned into a pro by why is it faster just soft moded and stock and if I oc it to 9700 pro specs and its stable with no artifacts at all wouldnt that make it like a 9700 pro lite? Yeah a new breed of card a 9700 pro lite and no one here with tell me otherwise! 😛
 
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