Big Screen Gaming

[Shtorm]

Looking to get the new radeon 1950xtx and would like to be gaming on a dlp 1080p proj tv that is at least 56". I've looked around a bit and haven't really found anything that gives good advice on the best brand and model for this. Anybody using their big screen dlp with their pc? Suggestions or links to good information for comparisons is much appreciated. Thanks!

 

[KB]

There is no best brand and model. Everyone has an opinion. I like the Samsung HLR5678W 56" Rear Projection Television, but I don't own one.

Since money is a big object to me, I game on an Infocus X1 projector at 78". It is much less than an LCD or Plasma at half the size. The picture quality in the dark is very good; however it is greatly affected by light and the bulb is supposed to last only 4000 hours.

 

[Shtorm]

Yeah, I'm not getting a plasma or lcd with burn in possibilities... and am not really wanting a projector (expensive bulb replacement being one reason). I was very interested in the Samsung model you mentioned, but I read that it doesn't accept 1080p on the HDMI inputs. You said you don't own one, but have you seen it with a pc hooked up running games smoothly?

Originally posted by: KB
There is no best brand and model. Everyone has an opinion. I like the Samsung HLR5678W 56" Rear Projection Television, but I don't own one.

Since money is a big object to me, I game on an Infocus X1 projector at 78". It is much less than an LCD or Plasma at half the size. The picture quality in the dark is very good; however it is greatly affected by light and the bulb is supposed to last only 4000 hours.

 

[bob4432]

just an fyi - plasma does definately have burn in possibilities as i have seen it on them before, but i have not seen any burn in on a lcd of any size (newer ones).

i would probably head over to a home theater website and see what they are using/saying as most here use up to 21" monitors in either lcd or crt form with the vast majority in the 17"-19" range.

i do know that when my current 55" rptv dies (damn thing is lasting too long) i will be doing what you are doing for my bedroom and build another rig and do the big screen gaming.

what game are you going to run that supports 1920x1080 natively?

 

[Boogak]

Originally posted by: Shtorm
Yeah, I'm not getting a plasma or lcd with burn in possibilities... and am not really wanting a projector (expensive bulb replacement being one reason). I was very interested in the Samsung model you mentioned, but I read that it doesn't accept 1080p on the HDMI inputs. You said you don't own one, but have you seen it with a pc hooked up running games smoothly?

DLP televisions require bulb changes as well. I don't believe LCD's suffer burn-in. The new Samsung 1080p tv's (HLSxx87W) accept 1080p signals for all their input options.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Try the HTPC area of AVSforum (and the regular display area I guess).

There are often threads on specific models and you could look for any issues anyone is having.

Like KB, money is a factor for me too and I'm on my second front projection setup.

If you want 0 chance of burn-in, DLP seems the way to go. Although all technologies are getting very good at avoiding burn-in, DLP is the only one that is really immune afaik.

 

[NuAlphaMan]

I have the 61 1080p Samsung, but I haven't used it for PC gaming. I just use it for my Xbox 360 gaming. It's a great TV! Great PQ. You will have lamp issues with a DLP as well. If you purchase one, make sure you get the warranty with it. As for burn issues on the LCD, I believed that is no longer an issue on the newer models. You will still have burn issues with plasma.

 

[Shtorm]

Hey guys, thanks for the responses ... I didn't realize dlp tvs had bulb replacement issues just as bad or worse than projectors! I think I'm going to settle on one of the newer samsung lcds at 46". Sleek and a lot slimmer too! Though I have to sacrifice on size a bit (I'm not that rich!). To answer your question on games bob4432, one will be a Company of Heroes. A rockin and incredible rts despite the potty mouth language.

 

[krotchy]

you might look into the 47 inch westinghouse LCD, its a great 1080p monitor, with 2 DVI, 2 HDMI, and 2 Component inputs, allowing for 6 HD inputs at once.

You can find tons upon tons of discussion on gaming TV's at the AVS forum, but overall LCD's are the best for gaming, with some people complaining about video lag with ***certain*** DLP/LCOS TV's.

www.avsforum.com = tons more help than you will find here. Everything you want to know has probably already been posted.

 

[Snakexor]

if you are buying a dlp tv, get a mitsubishi. they use a 6 color wheel instead of 3 which make the colors alot more natural and over all build quality is much higher. they have a 57 and 65 inch flavor of their 1080 line.

LCDS DO NOT GET BURN IN!

 

[Markbnj]

Originally posted by: Shtorm
Yeah, I'm not getting a plasma or lcd with burn in possibilities... and am not really wanting a projector (expensive bulb replacement being one reason). I was very interested in the Samsung model you mentioned, but I read that it doesn't accept 1080p on the HDMI inputs. You said you don't own one, but have you seen it with a pc hooked up running games smoothly?

Originally posted by: KB
There is no best brand and model. Everyone has an opinion. I like the Samsung HLR5678W 56" Rear Projection Television, but I don't own one.

Since money is a big object to me, I game on an Infocus X1 projector at 78". It is much less than an LCD or Plasma at half the size. The picture quality in the dark is very good; however it is greatly affected by light and the bulb is supposed to last only 4000 hours.

They all have their drawbacks, as do CRTs for that matter. My last family-room CRT was a Toshiba 27". Lasted all of four years before the blue gun rolled belly-up and sank to the bottom.

In the LCD vs. Plasma space there was an article not long ago that quoted a number of major manufacturers as leaning away from plasma now that LCD panels were well up into size ranges that were formerly exclusive to plasma. I think it's safe to say that people consider plasma a little less robust than LCD. It's a touchier technology, and does suffer from burn-in and lifespan issues.

LCD, on the other hand, suffers from dead and stuck pixels, backlight bleed, and other problems. All my LCDs have some backlight bleed, and my Dell 24" monitor has at least two bad pixels at a little under 1 year age.

Rear-projection... meh, I looked at a lot of them, and other than the LCOS models I didn't really like the IQ on any of them. The LCOS models were right up there price-wise, at the time (~ six months ago). Then there is the issue of replacing expensive bulbs, and the size factor.

There are some really good values out there in 1080p LCD panels now. We recently bought a Sceptre 37" from Newegg, and have been thrilled with it. I also hear very good things about the Westinghouse 37. These can be had for around $1500. Both lines also include a 42" more in the $2300 range.

But if you are set on 50+ inches, all the panels get very expensive, and RP seems to be the only way to get into that size range without a second mortgage 🙂.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Snakexor

LCDS DO NOT GET BURN IN!

Ok, you can call it image persistence for LCDs if you're taking "burn in" that narrowly. The effect is the same.

Yes, Plasma and LCD are getting much better at preventing this from happening. I've also seen burn in on CRTs. Just based on the way these technologies work, it seems like DLP is the only one where this really can't happen... am I wrong?

 

[stu1811]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Snakexor

LCDS DO NOT GET BURN IN!

Ok, you can call it image persistence for LCDs if you're taking "burn in" that narrowly. The effect is the same.

Yes, Plasma and LCD are getting much better at preventing this from happening. I've also seen burn in on CRTs. Just based on the way these technologies work, it seems like DLP is the only one where this really can't happen... am I wrong?

Image Persistence goes away Burn In does not. If you get an image stuck on your LCD screen, unplug it from the wall for 24 hrs and viola IMAGE GONE!

 

[BurnItDwn]

I don't know what DLP to get, but I am a bit curious about it here.

I recently picked up an acer 24inch LCD that runs 1920x1200 .... Battlefield 2 and WoW look great on it. (Before that I was using a 27inch LCD that only did 1280x768.) My Big TV is old school rear projection (Toshiba 61a61 theaterview), it looks and works awesome for movies and the like, but it looks like crap when I use s-video to connect to the PC. My radeon x1800xt came with component output cables ... so maybe just to satisfy my curiosity I'll play with the PC on the big screen .... but I have a feeling it won't look too great as my TV isn't even 720p. (though supposedly the tubes inside it are identicle to the first generation of hdtv's by Toshiba.)

PS .... most games don't support widescreen resolutions nativly, however, just about every game that I have played in the last few years has had some way to manually set the resolution and aspect ratio. It can take a little bit of work, but it's ohh so worth it.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: stu1811

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Snakexor

LCDS DO NOT GET BURN IN!

Ok, you can call it image persistence for LCDs if you're taking "burn in" that narrowly. The effect is the same.

Yes, Plasma and LCD are getting much better at preventing this from happening. I've also seen burn in on CRTs. Just based on the way these technologies work, it seems like DLP is the only one where this really can't happen... am I wrong?

Image Persistence goes away Burn In does not. If you get an image stuck on your LCD screen, unplug it from the wall for 24 hrs and viola IMAGE GONE!

That sounds like fun 😛

I started off with saying that if you want to avoid issues like this all together, DLP is what gives you 0 chance of dealing with this.