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Big Gamer - intel or amd????

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mato7742

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it seems that all the benchmark tests for graphics cards are done with intel pentium 4's. currently i have an amd athlonxp based motherboard and an athlon 2000+ that i want to upgrade. so what should i do?? intel or amd?? i do want game performance out of it also.
 
stay the hell away from Nforce2 systems... they stink... 🙂


Go with the Pee 4 Canterwood 2.6 or 2.8C along with Asus P4C800 and will crush any AMD Nforce2 gay motherboards...


If you want to stick with the AMD, go back to KT266A platform... they are a lot more stable and way faster than the nforce2 gay boards.. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: MeowCat
stay the hell away from Nforce2 systems... they stink... 🙂


Go with the Pee 4 Canterwood 2.6 or 2.8C along with Asus P4C800 and will crush any AMD Nforce2 gay motherboards...


If you want to stick with the AMD, go back to KT266A platform... they are a lot more stable and way faster than the nforce2 gay boards.. 🙂
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...said the person with the "what-gender-IS-it?" avatar 😉 The guy who designed that Wildcat avatar oughta be shot! 😛

😉

For those who will be offering constructive advice, be aware that mato7742 already has the video card covered... Radeon 9800 Pro. 😎

If it were me, I'd look at the Athlon64 3000+ for your next upgrade. Its gaming benchmarks are coming out really well even compared to a Pentium4 3.2C, and for quite a bit less money. (I admit to being AMD-biased, though)

 
MeowCat: Hey come on man, this isn't the counter-strike.net forums - ya can't diss a whole platform like that!

Anyway Mato, how much are you looking to spend? And what motherboard and memory and video card do you have? Are you going to carry them over to your new build for a while till you can afford more? Tell all ...

Oops, Mechbegon got a post in ahead of me, nice video card!
 
If it were me, I'd look at the Athlon64 3000+ for your next upgrade. Its gaming benchmarks are coming out really well even compared to a Pentium4 3.2C, and for quite a bit less money. (I admit to being AMD-biased, though)
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that's stupid... Athy64 3000+ is very pathetic cpu... it's crippled down to 512k l2 instead of 1MB.. the multi is locked.. the platform socky 754 is gay... slow and only slightly faster than the nforce2 gay boards... you wanna bigger jump, wait till 939 matures with the athy64 3200+ or higher and price to drop... getting a 3000+ 64 is very stupid idea rite now....

 
Raddy9800pro is good.. but he better oc the thing... put a phase change cooling on that card and run it at 530~ 550 core would be good...
 
AMD64 is a killer for gaming. they cost a pretty penny. look up some articles on anandtech for those articles.
 
alright well here's what i'm running

gigabyte 7N400 Pro2 - nforce 2 based (doesn't support amd64)
400W P/S
512 RAM
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
AMD Athlon 2000+

so should i just upgrade my entire motherboard to the 64 models or continue with the XP models?? is 64 much better than the XP's??
 
Read my sig. For the money, I have an Excellent system. My AthlonXP cpu currently running at ~2.17Ghz is a successfull and stable 700mhz overclock. The only reason I originally went with AMD was it was cheaper. After using many friends slightly higher priced intel systems, I would still buy a faster AMD system to MY SPECIFICATIONS (this is why my system is stable). Why? It's stable, cheap, and powerful. Intel makes great cpu's and systems, but for considerably more money when bang for buck ratio is considered. If you are a gamer, I recommend you get an AthlonXP "barton" cpu coupled with a Shuttle SN45G barebones computer. You will save money over intel, and have a very quick, snappy, and powerful computer. my $0.02.

I am not recommending any of the newer 64bit capable cpu's because you will be the guinea pig and have to wait for new bios updates/patches when those "minor glitches" occur.
 
Originally posted by: mato7742
alright well here's what i'm running

gigabyte 7N400 Pro2 - nforce 2 based (doesn't support amd64)
400W P/S
512 RAM
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
AMD Athlon 2000+

so should i just upgrade my entire motherboard to the 64 models or continue with the XP models?? is 64 much better than the XP's??
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I'd just grab an XP2500 and overclock it... cheap $90 upgrade and you'll get some nice performance gains over your XP2000

*EDIT* Keep your nforce2... Via's socket 462 chipsets are junk.
 
you get 700mhz oc... I get 200% oc... with my athy xp.

if you gonna stick with the amd, do this following:


- If you go with the Nforce2 boards, search and purchase an older version such as A2 or A3 stepping. They are a lot more stable and less sensitive in the SB department.

- If not Nforce2 gay boards, go with KT600 or KT400.


- Otherwise go with the Pee4 Cee.
 
"sb department?" btw, my 700mhz overclock is on the stock air cooling of my shuttle xpc small form factor computer. 🙂 oh, it has a Shuttle motherboard too.
 
Originally posted by: Sid59
200% huh? please post your cpu and stuff. that's a great oc.
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He's lying... even with the king of all Athlon XP overclockers, the DLT3C XP1700, that would be about 2.93 Ghz... I'm gonna say no.
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: Sid59
200% huh? please post your cpu and stuff. that's a great oc.
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He's lying... even with the king of all Athlon XP overclockers, the DLT3C XP1700, that would be about 2.93 Ghz... I'm gonna say no.
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yeah i know. i wanted to see him post.
 
I'd stay with your current setup with one change: as Jeff7181 says. get a Barton 2500+ and overclock it. You should easily be able to get a 3200+ out of it. And ignore the Via zealot (weird, I wasn't aware that there were any in existence 😕 ), the nForce2 is the ONLY chipset for Socket462 chips. Period.
 
wampa

you sure that 1800XP > 11x200 would really be a 3200+? would it be less considering it doesn't have the 512KB L2 cache?
 
Originally posted by: Sid59
wampa

you sure that 1800XP > 11x200 would really be a 3200+? would it be less considering it doesn't have the 512KB L2 cache?
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your right, just changed it. I forgot that a tbred 12.5x200 is the xp3200.
 
Originally posted by: MeowCat
If it were me, I'd look at the Athlon64 3000+ for your next upgrade. Its gaming benchmarks are coming out really well even compared to a Pentium4 3.2C, and for quite a bit less money. (I admit to being AMD-biased, though)
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that's stupid... Athy64 3000+ is very pathetic cpu... it's crippled down to 512k l2 instead of 1MB.. the multi is locked.. the platform socky 754 is gay... slow and only slightly faster than the nforce2 gay boards... you wanna bigger jump, wait till 939 matures with the athy64 3200+ or higher and price to drop... getting a 3000+ 64 is very stupid idea rite now....
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I never knew a motherboard chipset to have a sexual preference.

Nor a 9800pro that needs to be overclocked to be "good".

I agree that a athlon 64 probably isn't the best idea, but only because of the price involved.

Depending on the motherboard and ram you have, you might want to look at overclocking a barton 2500+, otherwise an athlon64 3000+ is probably a good idea.
 
get a 2.4c, an IS7 cause its cheap and good, get some corsair xms ram, and your gonna be putting up some great numbers. amd's are great, but having an extra heater by you while you game is annoying, plus with summer coming, its nice to not be hot all the damn time in your home. P4c's run great, their fast. They run cooler then AMD's even when overclock 400+mhz. My friend just got a AMD 64 3200+, and it runs at 70c from what it said in the bios, and it wasnt even overclock, everything was default. Thats insanely HOT. Go with a P4c, you cant go wrong getting one of those.
 
btw, i bought ram, motherboard, heatsink/fan, powersupply, cpu, artic silver, all for under $550 when i upgraded my computer 10 months ago. im sure you can get a much better deal for less right now. ive had my system overclocked sicne i got it 10 months ago, and not one thing has gone wrong, i love it.
 
Originally posted by: batmang
get a 2.4c, an IS7 cause its cheap and good, get some corsair xms ram, and your gonna be putting up some great numbers. amd's are great, but having an extra heater by you while you game is annoying, plus with summer coming, its nice to not be hot all the damn time in your home. P4c's run great, their fast. They run cooler then AMD's even when overclock 400+mhz. My friend just got a AMD 64 3200+, and it runs at 70c from what it said in the bios, and it wasnt even overclock, everything was default. Thats insanely HOT. Go with a P4c, you cant go wrong getting one of those.
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Hey man, nothing runs hot, as long as you know how to cool it. My XP2400 runs 42 while folding, and 43 while running Prime95, at 2.1ghz @1.775V. It runs 43 folding, and 44 doing Prime at 2.2ghz on air! The highest temp I've seen is 51C at 2.4ghz, while running CPUBurn, which gets your proc. WAY hotter than Prime95 does...

edit: I almost forgot, it only runs 44-45C while playing UT2k3 @2.4ghz.
 
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