Biden out

Bitek

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Breaking now. Speaking on rose garden. Will not run, but will be an influence.
 

Indus

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Yeah good guy but didn't see him getting the nomination. Not enough contrast from Hillary (establishment).

That and the Bin Laden no call would have really hurt him in the general.
 

drifter106

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Wonder if this will help Bernie???? Demo's better hope Mrs. H survives till the nomination.....
 

Bitek

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Biden was never in. It was always a desperate attempt by the news media to bait clicks.

I'm not so sure Joe ever had that much clarity. He certainly could have announced he wasn't running a long time ago.

Had Beau not sure, who knows what could have happened. I do think he intended his son to carry his legacy however.
 
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I'm not so sure Joe ever had that much clarity. He certainly could have announced he wasn't running a long time ago.

Had Beau not sure, who knows what could have happened. I do think he intended his son to carry his legacy however.

Being 72 years old was all the clarity needed.
 

trenchfoot

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Most media mentioned awhile ago that Biden was purposed to be a good stand-in should Hillary somehow commit political suicide. A sensible idea seeing as if Bernie isn't as strong as Clinton in how they stack up against the Repubs. IMO, the first Dem debate rendered Biden's usefulness as a solid replacement for Hillary unnecessary.

But, up to the limit of eligibility, up to that very last second of eligibility, Biden, if necessary, can still jump back in, can't he?
 
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Most media mentioned awhile ago that Biden was purposed to be a good stand-in should Hillary somehow commit political suicide. A sensible idea seeing as if Bernie isn't as strong as Clinton in how they stack up against the Repubs. IMO, the first Dem debate rendered Biden's usefulness as a solid replacement for Hillary unnecessary.

But, up to the limit of eligibility, up to that very last second of eligibility, Biden, if necessary, can still jump back in, can't he?

He's 72.

I like the guy, and in his prime I think would have made a great president, but Hillary's the best option now and she's got this. Nothing good comes from Biden entering now, for him or anyone else.
 

soundforbjt

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Does it bother you to be electing another Wall Street crony?
I appreciate that is standard fare for Presidents.... but if you wanted anything to change in this country...

Nothing can change with the people we have in Congress right now, they make the laws as directed to them by their handlers.
 

trenchfoot

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Does it bother you to be electing another Wall Street crony?
I appreciate that is standard fare for Presidents.... but if you wanted anything to change in this country...

Not speaking on Gonad's behalf or anything, but that bolded part right there? That's what Bernie Sanders represents. If by any chance that Hillary ruins her bid, I'd be more than happy.....no, I'd be ecstatic to vote for him, and I believe the Dem Party would rally around him, if for no other reason than that he stood for a reversal of the corporate stranglehold on Washington DC that the nation now severely suffers from.
 
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Not speaking on Gonad's behalf or anything, but that bolded part right there? That's what Bernie Sanders represents. If by any chance that Hillary ruins her bid, I'd be more than happy.....no, I'd be ecstatic to vote for him, and I believe the Dem Party would rally around him, if for no other reason than that he stood for a reversal of the corporate stranglehold on Washington DC that the nation now severely suffers from.

The stranglehold Wall Street has on Washington is from the stranglehold it has on the economy. It will take more than any single president or any simple congressional majority to change. It will take those millions and millions of people Sanders talks about rising up actually rise up. This is not that election. Until that's here the best vote is for the candidate who can make the best of the situation we have and maybe push through some baby steps in the right direction.
 
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Not speaking on Gonad's behalf or anything, but that bolded part right there? That's what Bernie Sanders represents. If by any chance that Hillary ruins her bid, I'd be more than happy.....no, I'd be ecstatic to vote for him, and I believe the Dem Party would rally around him, if for no other reason than that he stood for a reversal of the corporate stranglehold on Washington DC that the nation now severely suffers from.

He is getting 30%+ and even won a bunch of polls over Hillary, and you're STILL too incompetent to vote for him just because the media moguls that she pays are putting her as the front runner (even though polls show otherwise)?

You sure do let the media control you...
 

rudder

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I like the guy, and in his prime I think would have made a great president, but Hillary's the best option now and she's got this.

I hope Hillary gets elected. Washington is so confusing... you can never be sure which Senator or congressman you need to give money to in order to get stuff done. hell you can buy off a congressman and still not get stuff done.

With Hillary you can send a $1 million or so to the Clinton Foundation and get what you need. Need a minor regulation tweak.... hire Bill to speak for $300,000.... boom done.

Washington will run like a well oiled machine.
 

senseamp

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Does it bother you to be electing another Wall Street crony?
I appreciate that is standard fare for Presidents.... but if you wanted anything to change in this country...

It bothers me in the primary, but in the general election, you can be sure that she is less of a Wall Street crony than whoever the Republicans nominate.
 

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