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Bitek

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Pedophile? please cite your proof.

Bill Clinton was all of those thing on a epic horn dog level but yet you still support him. why?
This thread is about crazy joe Biden who is bat shit crazy. Stay on topic or get out.
Wait, is this thread about Clinton or Biden?

Who is running for president? So why are you bringing up someone who last ran 24 years ago?

You're getting killed in this thread because the premise is stupid.

"Uh, this guy is nuts, look at this playful PDA with his wife.."

-Well the other guy is an adulterer, an accused rapist and pedo..

"Well never you mind that! Besides... what about Grover Cleveland?! Ha checkmate! Please stay in topic btw!"

-facepalm
 
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compuwiz1

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I don't really care what crazy Joe did. He's not gonna be the nominee. I've been getting this weird hunch like something strange is gonna happen and it's gonna be Bloomberg. o_O
 

Maxima1

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I have a bad feeling that the poster who is known to post eugenics-based BS isn't sincere in his concerns about any Democratic and/or progressive candidate.
Why do you get disgruntled over people prodding establishment Democrats?

I never voted for a Republican ever. What's your history?
 

Maxima1

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I am very concerned about BS claims
Go look at the other thread where Vic squares the blame of Hillary's loss on Sanders. TONS of centrist Democrats despise any critique of liberal media and the pols. It's funny how people have to vote for the more centrist candidate because otherwise the argument goes that people won't vote. Well, why would the centrist Democrats stay home if it's Sanders or Warren? Who sounds more Republican then? it's completely laughable how some on here utilize my past statements that IQ may have a genetic basis to suggest I have significant overlap with Republicans. Arguably a lot the liberals here have it more so than me and some have admitted they voted for Bush or some other Republican president in the past.
 
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Go look at the other thread where Vic squares the blame of Hillary's loss on Sanders. TONS of centrist Democrats despise any critique of liberal media and the pols. It's funny how people have to vote for the more centrist candidate because otherwise the argument goes that people won't vote. Well, why would the centrist Democrats stay home if it's Sanders or Warren? Who sounds more Republican then? it's completely laughable how some on here utilize my past statements that IQ may have a genetic basis to suggest I have significant overlap with Republicans. Arguably a lot the liberals here have it more so than me and some have admitted they voted for Bush or some other Republican president in the past.
Very concerned
 

Vic

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Go look at the other thread where Vic squares the blame of Hillary's loss on Sanders. TONS of centrist Democrats despise any critique of liberal media and the pols. It's funny how people have to vote for the more centrist candidate because otherwise the argument goes that people won't vote. Well, why would the centrist Democrats stay home if it's Sanders or Warren? Who sounds more Republican then? it's completely laughable how some on here utilize my past statements that IQ may have a genetic basis to suggest I have significant overlap with Republicans. Arguably a lot the liberals here have it more so than me and some have admitted they voted for Bush or some other Republican president in the past.
I didn't put the blame for Hillary's loss on Sanders, that's a mischaracterization. What I did was refute the claims that his actions, and those of his supporters, had little to no impact (ie BS like "Sanders campaigned for Hillary more than Hillary did"). When those actions clearly did have an impact, as they played right into the Trumpist propaganda campaign that "Bernie got cheated" which did have a rather significant impact on the outcome.

You're also mischaracterizing your past statements that IQ may have a genetic basis. Because if you put it that way, I would agree with you. I mean, of course they do, but only to a limited extent (environment plays a larger role IMO), and is not limited to any single race or skin color. Unfortunately, your statements were that all blacks on average have lower IQs due to genetics, and you stood by those statements even when it was pointed out to you that such a generalization was not possible due to the fact that blacks are more genetically diverse than all other such groups combined.

But anyway.. if you want 4 more years of Trump, of corruption and a President who fancies himself a king who's above the law, with courts stacked with like minded judges, then just keep doing what you're doing, just like in 2016.
 
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Bitek

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I don't really care what crazy Joe did. He's not gonna be the nominee. I've been getting this weird hunch like something strange is gonna happen and it's gonna be Bloomberg. o_O
It could be if booti blows himself up ....and somehow Biden loses the black vote (not going to happen.)
 

Maxima1

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I didn't put the blame for Hillary's loss on Sanders, that's a mischaracterization. What I did was refute the claims that his actions, and those of his supporters, had little to no impact (ie BS like "Sanders campaigned for Hillary more than Hillary did"). When those actions clearly did have an impact, as they played right into the Trumpist propaganda campaign that "Bernie got cheated" which did have a rather significant impact on the outcome.
Nope. Comey huge factor. Second closest factor probably was stories and news about her baggage and then Jill Stein. Much of it would be a mess to detangle from all of her baggage. I don’t know of any analysis that quantifies the impact of “Bernie got cheated”. Some element of it would have been discussed regardless no matter what he said or did. Shee-it, Warren bluntly said 2016 Democratic primary was rigged. Speaking truth to power is not the problem. The problem is the enablers that cater more to the Democratic elite and the donors. These are the same people who vouched for Barr, Kavanaugh, et al.

You're also mischaracterizing your past statements that IQ may have a genetic basis. Because if you put it that way, I would agree with you. I mean, of course they do, but only to a limited extent (environment plays a larger role IMO), and is not limited to any single race or skin color. Unfortunately, your statements were that all blacks on average have lower IQs due to genetics, and you stood by those statements even when it was pointed out to you that such a generalization was not possible due to the fact that blacks are more genetically diverse than all other such groups combined.
That's not a solid argument. Look up Lewontin's fallacy.


Intelligence researchers slant liberal, and those who responded to this recent survey did not subscribe to the wholly environmentalist explanation.





But anyway.. if you want 4 more years of Trump, of corruption and a President who fancies himself a king who's above the law, with courts stacked with like minded judges, then just keep doing what you're doing, just like in 2016.
Keep supporting Republican-lite Democrats who to protect their interests favor identity politics over broad economic policies, and we're sure to lose.

 

Herr Kutz

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The funny thing is those is the most sane candidate the dems have. It’s a total shit show.
 

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Go look at the other thread where Vic squares the blame of Hillary's loss on Sanders. TONS of centrist Democrats despise any critique of liberal media and the pols. It's funny how people have to vote for the more centrist candidate because otherwise the argument goes that people won't vote. Well, why would the centrist Democrats stay home if it's Sanders or Warren? Who sounds more Republican then? it's completely laughable how some on here utilize my past statements that IQ may have a genetic basis to suggest I have significant overlap with Republicans. Arguably a lot the liberals here have it more so than me and some have admitted they voted for Bush or some other Republican president in the past.
The argument isn't that centrists would stay home. It's that independents wouldn't vote for the candidate.

I'm not endorsing this argument or rejecting it. I just want to clarify what the argument actually is.
 
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Maxima1

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The argument isn't that centrists would stay home. It's that independents wouldn't vote for the candidate.

I'm not endorsing this argument or rejecting it. I just want to clarify what the argument actually is.
When questioning an independent on party, the vast majority will admit that they have an affinity, and there are many that are actually quite partisan (especially evident with some of the Trump supporters). I'm not sure how someone like the former isn't "moderate"? Moreover, the argument I always heard with Bernie is that they'll say he's a socialist or wants to support too much which in turn will collapse his support. Obviously that must be mostly from the more centrist part of the party which would obviously include weaker self-identified Democrat voters.
 

HomerJS

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When questioning an independent on party, the vast majority will admit that they have an affinity, and there are many that are actually quite partisan (especially evident with some of the Trump supporters). I'm not sure how someone like the former isn't "moderate"? Moreover, the argument I always heard with Bernie is that they'll say he's a socialist or wants to support too much which in turn will collapse his support. Obviously that must be mostly from the more centrist part of the party which would obviously include weaker self-identified Democrat voters.
What disturbs me more the number of people in this country that embrace communist dictatorships over socialism.
 
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pmv

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What communist dictatorships and who is it that supports them?

North Korea, and Trump?

China, and, er, whoever it is who is very pro-China (not sure who that would be, come to think of it).

I think you could sort-of-argue that there are still elements of the communist political system in those countries (even if one is pretty much a hereditary monarchy and the other authoritarian capitalist).

I wouldn't say the same about Russia, though, I don't think there's anything communist left about that place, it's more anarcho-capitalism/kleptocracy.
 
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North Korea, and Trump?

China, and, er, whoever it is who is very pro-China (not sure who that would be, come to think of it).

I think you could sort-of-argue that there are still elements of the communist political system in those countries (even if one is pretty much a hereditary monarchy and the other authoritarian capitalist).

I wouldn't say the same about Russia, though, I don't think there's anything communist left about that place, it's more anarcho-capitalism/kleptocracy.
Neither China or N. Korea are particularly "communist" (although China still tosses out the odd bromide or two every so often). and I've not heard of any Americans who support either of those regimes over "socialism". <shrug>

And yeah, there's been nothing communist about Russia for more than a few decades.

Upon reflection I think that China just might be the most fascistic country in the world these days and getting more so as each day passes.
 

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