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My thermo is owned by the power company. They came and installed it along with an adapter on my network. I don't have any control over it and recognize that it's a weak spot on the network but overall I like it better than the old industrial analog thermostat I had.

Could probably isolate it if you were worried
 

nOOky

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We live in SW WI and did not get central air until about 2 years ago. Anecdotally the summers seem hotter and muggier, or I'm just getting old. Previously we would just close the house and pull the blinds and it wasn't too bad with ceiling fans on. My wife is always cold, while I would sit on the couch sweating. I finally said eff this and we installed the unit. It has been an exceptionally hot spring here, I'm grateful for it. I always find it weird that I see older people sitting outside on the hottest days, just trying to acclimate themselves I suppose. I could get by without a/c, except it's a godsend at night.
 

PingSpike

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I just use window units. They're kind of a pain to install and look super white trash, but after hearing about central air costs and repair costs I don't really care. Also, I'm a bit white trash so why put a front on?
 
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I just use window units. They're kind of a pain to install and look super white trash, but after hearing about central air costs and repair costs I don't really care. Also, I'm a bit white trash so why put a front on?
Depending on your space, if you didn't want the hassle of ducting, there are always mini-split systems, where all they have to do is hang a unit on the interior wall and run some small piping.

I don't mind window units, but they suck to install, and they also block the use of a window on nicer days.
 

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anyone shocked? i'm shocked at the balls it took to write something this f&^cking stupid
Well I’m feeling better about buying a whole home generator. Of course if all the natural gas goes out due to a freeze I’m still screwed but homes are generally the last to get cutoff - to much chance of things going boom when they turn the gas back on.
 
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Well I’m feeling better about buying a whole home generator. Of course if all the natural gas goes out due to a freeze I’m still screwed but homes are generally the last to get cutoff - to much chance of things going boom when they turn the gas back on.

time to convert it to propane and have a tank buried.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Well I’m feeling better about buying a whole home generator. Of course if all the natural gas goes out due to a freeze I’m still screwed but homes are generally the last to get cutoff - to much chance of things going boom when they turn the gas back on.
Nat gas freezes at -297F, if that happens you probably have more serious problems.
 
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The gas processing plants froze up causing low supply which turned off power plants and cut yet more gas capacity.
Right. It doesn’t mean the gas itself freezes, it’s a question of ‘does anything involved in the process from the point of generation to delivery freeze’.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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The gas processing plants froze up causing low supply which turned off power plants and cut yet more gas capacity.
Ah, fair enough, I thought you meant on-site storage. My 1kgal is enough to last me for several months if need be.

Without power I'd be in trouble though.
 

Paratus

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time to convert it to propane and have a tank buried.
Ah, fair enough, I thought you meant on-site storage. My 1kgal is enough to last me for several months if need be.

Without power I'd be in trouble though.

Ya for power I’d have to lose both power and natural gas to be out of power with the generator.

However for heat if I lose natural gas the generator and the furnace won’t work. I don’t think a propane tank would help for the furnace, at least without a whole lot of HVAC work.

The good news is even during the freeze last February we didn’t lose natural gas and per state orders residential use would have been the last to be cutoff.
 
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Ya for power I’d have to lose both power and natural gas to be out of power with the generator.

However for heat if I lose natural gas the generator and the furnace won’t work. I don’t think a propane tank would help for the furnace, at least without a whole lot of HVAC work.

The good news is even during the freeze last February we didn’t lose natural gas and per state orders residential use would have been the last to be cutoff.

actually I don’t think anything big needs to be converted for Propane heat vs NG. Same with the stove. There is some kind of lighter thingy or something like that but otherwise if it runs NG it runs Propane.
However the point about the generator is if the gas line gets impacted by long term power loss the next best option is a generator with a propane tank attached and/or propane for home heat. You are effectively off the grid at that point.