BFG OC vs Chaintech

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: humey
LikeLinus, Dont swear at me your a typical ignorent yank.

The Ultra min spec at launch was 400/1000 go and look it up and chaintech is 425 core, so you are the one that needs your eyes tested not me so STFU, typical big mouth yank.

I know i will get in bother for this, but im past bothering, as im not here to take sh1t from 2-3 ignorent pigs, who dont have a clue.

Asus
BFG
Chaintech
Newer Revs of eVga
Leadtek winfast

All Above are 425 and some i cant fine im sure XFX have newer revs to

Sorry to poster as its got of topic, but not to the 3 ignorent fookers.

Ignorant pigs? LOL, you crack me up. I think it's time to lay off the gin a little.

Link

Nvidia says the RAM clock should be at 1050MHz. Every review I've seen said the Ultra was at 400\1100 and the GT at 350\1000. BFG's Ultra is clocked at 425\1100 and their GT at 370\1000. I'd call that factory overclocked.

Chaintech

0 for 1 so far...

EVGA

Their Ultra is 400\1100 too...

Whoops!

Looks like Leadtek's card is clocked at 400\1100 too. What a shame.

Asus

Ok, looks like you win one...

You were right on two, which happened to be the two that nobody disputed. That makes you 0\3 and dead wrong.
 

LikeLinus

Lifer
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Additionally, we've already shown that eVGA has a 400/1100 core/mem.

Ledtek 6800 Ultra is the same. 400/550 (doubled = 1100 mem). Winfast is also Leadtek. SAme product..same core/mem.

We've already shown that Asus is the other maker with an O/C product. eVGA and Ledtek are not.


USA 1 - Dumbass mouthy Europeans 0
 

imported_humey

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Hmm the proof is in the urls and some are rev 2 cards, so go and read the urls and makers main homepages.

You got big gob, how would u like me to pay for a flight for you to come over to Glasgow / Scotland and tell me that to my face ?

Its probably only time you may leave your homeland.

P.S, Scottish /British dont class ourselves as part of sh1tty Europe or use the euro as cash.

So dont be such a lamer and grow up im 33yrs not 12yrs

Anyhow nis new antispyware beta just fooked up my nav and nis so i need go remove or format :(
 

LikeLinus

Lifer
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Nevermind you're just a freaking idiot. There's no two ways about it. You can't even provide anything to support your claims. You just keep spouting off about some URL but you can't post one or note it.

I'm not surprised. Another troll.


33 years old and saying you're going to pay for someone to fly over and fight. Wow, just wow. Yeah you're not 12 or anything.
 

imported_humey

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I did post the urls you prick, open your eyes

04/19/2005 02:34 AM



humey
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400/1000 is min spec so why do all makes with 400/1100 and 425/1100 not claim 10% o/c.

BFG IMO are crap and i read nothing but problems with them, but hey they got a good rma support.

Fact is only 1 ultra i ever saw was 400/1000 so all rest are so called OVERCLOCKED.

This was all over web at launch and also backed up by my phonecall to the UK PR Manager about broken PvP.

Fact is Ultra must have at least 400/1000

Ultra Extreme must have at least 450/1200 as eVga did.


BFG were unheard of ni UK till N40, but i had known of crappy PNY who took part of markrt after another one i know >> Visiontek (USA fav manu) went bust.

If i had choice over the 2 i would and i do always since G F 2 GTS Ultrqa buy Chaintech, and they o/c great, i think you can find this in reviews aswell.


http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review_print.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD05NDg=

"ASUS AX800 XT PE/2DHTV, PCIe, 520/1120
NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra 256MB, 8x AGP, 400/1000
Gainward GeForce 6800 GT Ultra/2400 Golden Sample Goes Like Hell 256MB, 8x AGP, 400/1200 (enhanced)
NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT 256MB, 8x AGP, 350/1000 "

http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?articleid=568


"The eVGA GeForce 6800 Ultra Extreme Edition is basically a reference design GeForce 6800 Ultra with its core clocked at 450MHz and its on-board memory humming along at a speedy 1.2GHz (600MHz DDR)."


There is the 3 urls.

No i didnt state end fact, just you wont be so cocky then i bet.
 

LikeLinus

Lifer
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1. theres only 2 links..not 3.
2. We already said Asus has overclocked cards.
3. eVGA is an "Extreme Edition" which is an overclocked card.

Reference for Ultra's and almost all of the cards is 400/1100. You stated that Nvidia had a "minimum" of 400/1100. You apparently don't understand what a reference design is. There is no minimum or max. It is a design. A few manufactures OVERCLOCK the cards out of spec. You stated that you've only seen 1 card at 400/1100 and the rest were "overclocked", which simply isn't true.

You said those makers do not say the overclock. That is not true. What do you think "Extreme Edition" w/ a higher clock core is? That is out of spec of Reference Design and is a MARKETING TERM for overclocked cards. The SAME as BFG using the term overclocked.

You also said " just felt it ness to point out BFG aint really 10 o/c for the Ultra as most good makes are 425/1100" That is, again, not true. BFG IS overclocking over the reference design. Thats why they can call it OVERCLOCKED. Otherwise it would be false advertising. Thats the exact same thing eVGA or Asus is doing. They give their cards a flashy name because they are overclocking past the design specs.

Do you understand now?

Please provide links for Chaintech and Leadtek's overclocked cards. They are not listed on their products page.
 

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Lifer
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How much is a round trip ticket from Chicago to Scotland? If you're willing to foot the bill I'm up for a vacation.
 

imported_humey

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Nvidia at prelaunch party to fool ATI (on web sites and backed up by UK PR Manager) said to be classed as a Ultra it had to have min 400 core and 1000 memory as the eariler post of a url showed, there was a 400/1000 Ultra, i think only one manu did this, others did 400/1100 and a few did 425/1100.

eVga did have a 400/1100 but later cards (rev2) had 425/1200.

Also Nvidia said to be classed a a Ultra Extreme a card had to have 450 core 1200 memory min.

Again these speeds are left open to card makers but thats mins spec to get those names.

I have posted ulrs with the 400/1000 card and the other info throughout this thread, but im done as i am sorry to orignal poster as this wasnt the topic.

It says nowhere on Chaintech site or box that the 6800U is o/c just because the card comes 425/1100 and others also dont claim this that have 425/1100 Ultras.

I aint the only one to say this so go and have go at them also as you will see if you search the threads.
 

peleejosh

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ok, Humey I am sorry if I was being rude. I just don't understand why you say a company is crap if you have never used one of their porducts? I did say that I think Chaintech is crap, but that's because I have owned a few Chaintech products and they were crap. Maybe I was unlucky.
And by the way since when is CHaintech a JAP company? I thought it was a Tiawanese co.
oh and here is the 6800 ultra on chaintechs website. clearly 400/1100
http://www.chaintech.com.tw/tw/eng/product_spec.asp?MPSNo=14&PISNo=295
 

imported_humey

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Ok no probs , yes there Tiawanese, just me sterotyping same as you would call us european but im not im Scottish or British, cause european could be lots of countrys.

Ok peace :)

I do try back up my info with urls if you look for them.
My typing skills are totally crap i know i will win no awards for them, id rather talk then write or type.
I do build pcs for a living but 99% of customers are familys and wont spend £400 on a GPU.

forums just get me heated and others by the looks of it,unlike irc where is bit better as its live.

Nothing i have stated it totally worng or false and urls can show you 3 diff speeds of Ultra, from old original 400/1000 to 400/1100 and 425/1100.

Ask the peep who moded the bios in the bios mode section he is clever and helped me get by my limit of 460/1220.

Anyhow it takes a bigger man to say sorry so you have so i will to SORRY bud.
 

peleejosh

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Its all good.
PS. I never called you European. I have a Scottish friend and I learned that lesson al long time ago:)
 

Avalon

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Originally posted by: humey
Owned by who, to yanks that know little ?

I read Reviews and i take into account them all not just 1 sites findings,Avalon you are just as much a stirrer as you were on the Purevideo thread, at leasy one user had camr with some input about the 2 cards performance, for some noob to say A top Jap card /mobo maker is crap.

1) You label me in a derogatory fashion. How 33 year oldish of you. In addition to that, you link the label as someone who knows nothing. You are ignorant and stereotypical, nothing more. Just because you happen to dislike a country, does not mean everyone from that country is stupid. You don't even know me, and making a statement like that above makes YOU come off as the stupid one.

2) Oh, I don't read reviews? I must be an excellent hardware enthusiast, then!

3) I was not a vocal voice in the Purevideo thread, nor do I recall stirring anything. I own a 6800NU, and do not care that Purevideo in it does not work correctly. The only thing about Purevideo that I don't care for at this moment is that you have to pay Nvidia additional money to get it to operate.

The Ultra min spec at launch was 400/1000 go and look it up and chaintech is 425 core,

No, the Ultra spec is not 400/1000. The Chaintech may have a turbo (overclocked) version running at 425/1100, but their normal version (the one I found online at dozens of stores) was only 400/1100. I'm sure they do have a 425/1100 card, but that's not the point here.

Hmm the proof is in the urls and some are rev 2 cards, so go and read the urls and makers main homepages.

You got big gob, how would u like me to pay for a flight for you to come over to Glasgow / Scotland and tell me that to my face ?

Yes, the proof is in the URLs that we have provided. Most cards come at 400/1100, because that is the standard. Anything higher is overclocked, even if they aren't labeled as overclocked, but all of those would have some fancy enthusiast name anyway to differentiate.

If you'd like to pay me to fly over to your country, I'd be more than happy to. It's not me wasting my money on something so incredibly ridiculous.


 

fstime

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quote:
Originally posted by: humey
425/1100 Ultra isnt o/c thats normal for all good card makers.



No, it's not.
6800 Ultra spec is 400/1100.
BFG makes top notch cards.



I think what he is trying to say is a lot of other card makers also use 425/1.1.

For example, the EVGA 6800U comes 425 core clock stock

And yes, I have the card.

So does my friends PNY 6800U.

It also comes 425 stock.

Either way, there is nothing wrong with BFG's cards.
 

Avalon

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If that's what he was trying to say, that would be fine, as several cards do come clocked at that. However, he started claiming wrong Ultra core/mem specs and that 425/1100 wasn't overclocked, when in fact it is. However, it's really not that big of a deal, but he stepped way out line when he started intentionally trying to offend people here on the boards.