well how the hell do you expect us to believe you...you state your card is overclocked in your sig, and you also have athread asking about voltmodding....the evidence doesnt exactly favour you, and at the end of the day it is going to be you vs anandtech.
is rollo still on vacation? because boy he'd come down on you like a ton of bricks
is rollo still on vacation? because boy he'd come down on you like a ton of bricks
I did ask BFG this.
You only need the receipt if you need to do an cross-ship exchange.
Otherwise, I'm not sure how they handle proof of original buyer.
I registered my card with them, so I know I'm clear.
My 6800GT OC is still going, but I haven't gone past it's factory settings.
My Ultra OC is waiting for me at home right now, heh.
You only need the receipt if you need to do an cross-ship exchange.
Otherwise, I'm not sure how they handle proof of original buyer.
I registered my card with them, so I know I'm clear.
My 6800GT OC is still going, but I haven't gone past it's factory settings.
My Ultra OC is waiting for me at home right now, heh.
What's the big deal with overclocking? The MSI drivers for my GeForce Ti4200 have a built-in overclocking utility. It's right there when you hit the "advanced settings" button in the display properties, almost like you're supposed to overclock the thing.
I doubt using that utility would void the warranty. Nvidia has its own overclocking utility as well. I've "slightly" overclocked every cpu and most video cards I've ever owned. It shouldn't kill the card. I have no problems with somebody RMAing the card if no mods were done to the voltage.
I doubt using that utility would void the warranty. Nvidia has its own overclocking utility as well. I've "slightly" overclocked every cpu and most video cards I've ever owned. It shouldn't kill the card. I have no problems with somebody RMAing the card if no mods were done to the voltage.
James3shin
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Ah yes, the age-old "It costs us all money" arguement. Of course, the amount one RMA costs a given customer is miniscule, and I find it hard to believe that BFG actually has to raise their prices because of RMA abuse. While OCing is a violation of warranty, if BFG takes it back that's their fault. Anywhoo, just my two cents. I'm sure that if any of these haters lost a 400 dollar card, they most certainly would not take the high road; "take one for the team" is not an intrinsic human value. Myself, I'd do anything I could just so I don't get stuck with the short end of the stick. Then again, I'm not an OCer.
This is true. All these people that say they would not RMA their $400 card are just saying that because they "plan" to never have their card die on them. Id just like to see what they would do if their card suddenly stopped working.
rise
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meh, i say, fvck him, i hope he eats the card. if he's stupid enuff not to know that oc'ing can do permanent damage that can lead to the card faiing at ANY time then maybe he needs a $400 lesson.
its not even so much that fraudulent rma's cost us money, which they do in a small amount, but some poor bastard will get that card back from bfg as a replacement for a legitimate rma and have to go through the whole ordeal again, returning evdowgs ignorant mistakes.
its not even so much that fraudulent rma's cost us money, which they do in a small amount, but some poor bastard will get that card back from bfg as a replacement for a legitimate rma and have to go through the whole ordeal again, returning evdowgs ignorant mistakes.
Do you understand how rma's work? Almost all rma's turn into refurbs. They get FIXED and sold to refurb centers or yes, passed back to other rma requests. But the bottom line is that if the card is fixable it gets fixed. I ve bought 3 9800 pro's and a 9600xt rma return card from a refurb center and have had no problems with any of them. I built low $$$ machines for my friends.
Why would bfg give somebody a rma'd card? Time to shop with another company if that is the case Also if the op is being honest, a rma should be no problem. Many people here have rma'd a card that they oc'd for testing. If he is being dishonest, so what? Really his question was does he need a receipt, which in itself could be misconstrued as something.
rise
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oh, i understand how they work, and thankfully i never had a problem with the 1 mobo i had to rma and got a refurb back. was i happy getting a refurb? not really but thats what the warranty is/was and the mobo works fine. i've seen alot of threads with people getting chitty rma/refurbs back is what i was implying.
and apparently you've never heard the stories of people putting notes shrink wrapped in the rma package to help them trouble shoot it and get the package back wth the note stil in the original shrink wrapped pack? lol
i'd be pissed
Does BFG put overclocking utilities on thier CD? if so, there should be no overclocking "issue" when submitting a warranty claim.
How true.
The fact of the matter is BFG is selling nVidia silicon running above spec, "OC" , hehe.
I wonder how badly some of these chips are tortured above nVidia's own verification process? I wonder what do they do to the ones they have thrashed and binned to a lower spec? Do you think they throw them away?
Not on your life, they get shoved into a lower end product and sold to you and me. If some of you feel that an overclocked peice of silicon is "ruined" or some sort of "ticking timebomb" when it has been OC'd even once, how do you feel now?
A company like BFG must be screwing everyone over selling dammaged goods then! :roll:
Don't just stand there!! Get your torches out and get moving!!
rise
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no, the true facts of the matter are that the OP decided to further OC the card ~10%, ran it for some undetermined time at that speed and now is asking to rma it after claiming it wasn't oc'd, oh wait, well it WAS oc'd, but... whatever.
all i'm saying is that anyone, myself included, who oc's should know the inherent risks, and that includes the voiding of your warranty. his card may have failed if he had never oc'd it more but he did. and he had a lifetime warranty with a "factory oc'd" card, lol.
thats the fact.
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Dear Jeff, the only time this would be accepted if the overclocking was done by someone from bfg tech AT bfg Tech.
BFG Technologies is proud to warrant the original purchaser of the graphics card included in this package ("Product") that the Product will be free from defects in material or workmanship for as long as the original purchaser owns the product, when given normal wear and proper usage. This warranty is valid if the product:
>>>> Was not damaged while being installed.
>>>> Was not damaged by software or hardware from a company or individual other than BFG Technologies or by motherboard incompatibility.
>>>> Was operated in accordance with BFG Technologies specifications, instructions and any technical support directions.
>>>> Was not modified or damaged by overclocking, tampering, user error, accident, disaster, abuse, misuse, power supply, power application, alteration, repair, modification, a fix or replacement by someone other than BFG Technologies.
BFG Technologies' liability under this warranty, or in connection with any other claim relating to the Products, is limited to the repair or at BFG Technologies option, the replacement of the portion of the Products which were defective in material or workmanship.
Thank you for your request.
Your Technical Support Team
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Aaron H
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Jeff wrote:
>> If a BFG 6800GT OC card is overclocked past the speeds that it comes at
>> from BFG (370/1000) to say... 420/1100... then is returned to the
>> specified 370/1000... continues to run properly for two months, then
>> completely dies while running at the specified 370/1000. Will BFG's
>> lifetime warranty cover this and replace the card?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
BFG Technologies is proud to warrant the original purchaser of the graphics card included in this package ("Product") that the Product will be free from defects in material or workmanship for as long as the original purchaser owns the product, when given normal wear and proper usage. This warranty is valid if the product:
>>>> Was not damaged while being installed.
>>>> Was not damaged by software or hardware from a company or individual other than BFG Technologies or by motherboard incompatibility.
>>>> Was operated in accordance with BFG Technologies specifications, instructions and any technical support directions.
>>>> Was not modified or damaged by overclocking, tampering, user error, accident, disaster, abuse, misuse, power supply, power application, alteration, repair, modification, a fix or replacement by someone other than BFG Technologies.
BFG Technologies' liability under this warranty, or in connection with any other claim relating to the Products, is limited to the repair or at BFG Technologies option, the replacement of the portion of the Products which were defective in material or workmanship.
Thank you for your request.
Your Technical Support Team
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Aaron H
--
Jeff wrote:
>> If a BFG 6800GT OC card is overclocked past the speeds that it comes at
>> from BFG (370/1000) to say... 420/1100... then is returned to the
>> specified 370/1000... continues to run properly for two months, then
>> completely dies while running at the specified 370/1000. Will BFG's
>> lifetime warranty cover this and replace the card?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
Copied and pasted into to our RMA database....Good thing some people here at bfg actually are geeks and read forums....
Gamingphreek
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Omg.... how many threads on this subject are we going to have in month.
YOu are commiting FRAUD and you would be considered a theif. THe fact that BFG doesn't know and that you dont care make you somewhat immoral on top of that.
Why in the hell did you post this here?? Youve seen what happened what was this going to accomplish but another flame war.
I hope BFG catches you! And i hope they send the card back.
-Kevin
YOu are commiting FRAUD and you would be considered a theif. THe fact that BFG doesn't know and that you dont care make you somewhat immoral on top of that.
Why in the hell did you post this here?? Youve seen what happened what was this going to accomplish but another flame war.
I hope BFG catches you! And i hope they send the card back.
-Kevin
Gamingphreek
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