BF2142 Patch 1.01... ON RELEASE DAY

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Did you think they stopped developing/testing after the master copy was created?

If a game requires a patch on DAY ONE, then it wasn't ready.

But this is EA, so it's not surprising at all. It's so funny because it was so predictable.

I guess all the other games that need patches out of the box including WoW and other MMOs wernt ready either...

Of course they weren't. Are you claiming they were?

I swear damned if they do damned if they dont...
Yall would complain if they didnt send out a patch for months to fix things... now you pitch a fit because they do?

The idea is to release with nothing major to fix, not to quickly fix it.

yall really are strange people...

Thanks

me after the spyware announcment im only gonna play the demo... but I am happy to hear they are working hard on the mess EA has made...

and yes Im sure DICE knows the game isnt perfect... guess y'all have never worked under a hard unrealistic deadline... EA forces releases agaisnt developer protests... even if DICE said the game wasnt ready by thier standards EA makes the decision on weekly builds sent in.. if they say its ready it goes regardless of it state... we all know this..
so why blame the devs?

No one blames the devs, only EA. No one complains about the patch, only the fact that it was needed.

Agreed, but you're wasting your time.

We're not talking about WoW, CVSiN, we're talking about BATTLEFIELD. You're so busy lathering up DICE that you don't even recognize that they're not the ones getting blasted over all of this in the first place.

CVSiN, you're the only person in this thread to even MENTION DICE!

Yes I did... to remind you it wasnt thier fault... your such a immature antifanboi that you forget there are real people behind these games... and they are the ones that are forced to live with EAs iron hand...
Dice did thier job and continue to do so putting out the patch your laughing about..

You're not getting the point, son: NO ONE NEEDED REMINDING BECAUSE NO ONE WAS SLAMMING DICE! Again, you were the only person to mention DICE in this thread. Let me spell out the implications of that: no one was attacking DICE.

Do you wear a helmet when you leave the house?

Yes actually.. I do... I ride a Motorcycle...

May I suggest wearing it 24 x 7?

 

[Slitherythesnake]

Originally posted by: Bateluer
Thats sad, thus reinforcing my decision not to buy BF2142.

 

[JBT]

didn't they do the same thing with BF2??

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: JBT
didn't they do the same thing with BF2??

It wasn't on release day no, but it was pretty quick.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Didn't this game ship with some sort of funky spyware? I read about it somewhere today but would like to know if this is mentioned on the box? Do you get a warning when you install or is it hidden in the EULA? What does it do exactly?

 

[quikah]

I am not sure I understand what people are complaining about. Many programs have patches on release. It is pretty common to find bugs through late beta reports or something after the software has gone GM. Rather than recall the GM and waste a week+ of CD/DVD pressing you just release a patch. I don't see why this is a big deal.

 

[AgentJean]

Originally posted by: quikah
I am not sure I understand what people are complaining about. Many programs have patches on release. It is pretty common to find bugs through late beta reports or something after the software has gone GM. Rather than recall the GM and waste a week+ of CD/DVD pressing you just release a patch. I don't see why this is a big deal.

The big deal is this is EA they are talking about. It just one more thing bad about EA.
Their buggy software, takes them for ever to fix it(how long did it take them to get 1.04 for BF2? Years?). Then thow in the fact that they are adwaring your in a game you paid hard earned money for.

I bet you this "Zero week" patch is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. They release a patch so quickly to make it look like they give a damn when all they care about is the bottom like. Your 50 bucks on their pockets and they get to give you the red wood tree up your butts with no KY.

 

[secretanchitman]

for the record...didnt bf2 come out last summer? anyways...

its good to see that ea is releasing a patch, but i hate how they released it at the day of launch. maybe its something they found while playing? but i doubt that since they've been shipping the game for days, maybe weeks now.

 

[anthrax]

Patch or no Patch, BF2142 w/ patch 1.01 is still as buggy as hell...

Lots of people are reporting" Lost connection with EA master server" problems.

Looks like EA wanted to patch their quarterly sales target more than their products. I hope some one sues them soon.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: anthrax
Patch or no Patch, BF2142 w/ patch 1.01 is still as buggy as hell...

Lots of people are reporting" Lost connection with EA master server" problems.

Looks like EA wanted to patch their quarterly sales target more than their products. I hope some one sues them soon.

It's a firewall issue. But they dont tell you the specific port you need to open in order to properly connect with the master server. Instead, you get a laundry list of ports that need to be open, half of which are probably already open by default.

Most routers I've used don't even list these default ports. Try forwarding port 80 (on their list) to one of your computers, and see how everyone else on your network likes it.

 

[n7]

I can't wait to see how EA f*cks up Crysis.

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: n7
I can't wait to see how EA f*cks up Crysis.

Wait...there's something I don't understand...

So before EA bought DICE, there were bugs in BF2. But EA is only the publisher, right? Isn't the only thing that they do is publish stuff? With the exception of C&C: Generals and BFME2, I don't understand how EA, the publisher, contributed to the bugs of BF2. Am I missing something here?

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: Kromis

Originally posted by: n7
I can't wait to see how EA f*cks up Crysis.

Wait...there's something I don't understand...

So before EA bought DICE, there were bugs in BF2. But EA is only the publisher, right? Isn't the only thing that they do is publish stuff? With the exception of C&C: Generals and BFME2, I don't understand how EA, the publisher, contributed to the bugs of BF2. Am I missing something here?

Pushing release dates so that they don't have to pay DICE any more money for programming.

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: gersson

Originally posted by: Kromis

Originally posted by: n7
I can't wait to see how EA f*cks up Crysis.

Wait...there's something I don't understand...

So before EA bought DICE, there were bugs in BF2. But EA is only the publisher, right? Isn't the only thing that they do is publish stuff? With the exception of C&C: Generals and BFME2, I don't understand how EA, the publisher, contributed to the bugs of BF2. Am I missing something here?

Pushing release dates so that they don't have to pay DICE any more money for programming.

So its really just DICE's fault for not being fast enough and EA's fault for being a cheap bastard? What about the fact that BF2's bugs still aren't fixed, even a year after its release? So is that also EA's fault or what? And if so, how?

 

[ockky]

Originally posted by: Atheus
*shakes head*

It's not even worth stealing this game.

lol

 

[josh6079]

So its really just DICE's fault for not being fast enough and EA's fault for being a cheap bastard? What about the fact that BF2's bugs still aren't fixed, even a year after its release? So is that also EA's fault or what? And if so, how?

Basically, I see DICE at fault with some of their own problems as well. Granted, EA doesn't help them much, but I feel that DICE has had some ample time to fix some of the bugs that are forever unchanging in BF2. EA does control when they need to get patches out there, but if DICE can't patch anything then EA's deadlines are useless.

So in a way, it is EA's fault for demanding deadlines and promising fixes all while constantly hyping their add-ons that inevitably have the same bugs the BF2 series has.

Likewise it is DICE's "fault" for not being able to fix things in time or at all for that matter, even after a ~year.

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: josh6079

So its really just DICE's fault for not being fast enough and EA's fault for being a cheap bastard? What about the fact that BF2's bugs still aren't fixed, even a year after its release? So is that also EA's fault or what? And if so, how?

Basically, I see DICE at fault with some of their own problems as well. Granted, EA doesn't help them much, but I feel that DICE has had some ample time to fix some of the bugs that are forever unchanging in BF2. EA does control when they need to get patches out there, but if DICE can't patch anything then EA's deadlines are useless.

So in a way, it is EA's fault for demanding deadlines and promising fixes all while constantly hyping their add-ons that inevitably have the same bugs the BF2 series has.

Likewise it is DICE's "fault" for not being able to fix things in time or at all for that matter, even after a ~year.

Ahh, thanks for clearing that up for me, mate!

But really, I think its a bit harsh to blame Battlefield's problems on EA when in fact that its DICE's problem. I think people just like to hop on the the bandwagon and go along with this current trend for some reason...

BTW josh, I think you should change your sig to say "If you buy Battlefield 2142, then you are supporting spyware". Saying that buying EA's products (note the word meaning plural) means supporting spyware is pretty misleading.

 

[DannyLove]

As a huge BF2 fan and current player, I will not be purchasing 2142. This and the spyware is just too much.

 

[josh6079]

BTW josh, I think you should change your sig to say "If you buy Battlefield 2142, then you are supporting spyware". Saying that buying EA's products (note the word meaning plural) means supporting spyware is pretty misleading.

I'll consider it. If they release a game after BF2142 that does not have IGA pimping their spam into a game, then I'll definately be more specific.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: josh6079

So its really just DICE's fault for not being fast enough and EA's fault for being a cheap bastard? What about the fact that BF2's bugs still aren't fixed, even a year after its release? So is that also EA's fault or what? And if so, how?

Basically, I see DICE at fault with some of their own problems as well. Granted, EA doesn't help them much, but I feel that DICE has had some ample time to fix some of the bugs that are forever unchanging in BF2. EA does control when they need to get patches out there, but if DICE can't patch anything then EA's deadlines are useless.

So in a way, it is EA's fault for demanding deadlines and promising fixes all while constantly hyping their add-ons that inevitably have the same bugs the BF2 series has.

Likewise it is DICE's "fault" for not being able to fix things in time or at all for that matter, even after a ~year.

Good post. Pretty much sums up my opinions of EA and DICE.

I love IGN's preview:

After we've had a chance to see the servers fill up and have a better sense of the post-release issues that seem to plague the Battlefield series we'll come back with a full review and a score.

Pretty pathetic.

 

[Stuxnet]

More from IGN:

Lastly and unfortunately, as of this morning, we've been having serious connection issues to the EA Master server after downloading and installing the first patch for the game, which was released to coincide with 2142's arrival in stores. Firsly, a patch on the first day is never a good sign. Secondly, I can't even play the game long enough to take decent screenshots at this point. [jbourne77 note: LMAO] This may just be a server issue rather than a client patch issue, but either way it's basically impossible to play the game at the moment. We'll update this article with any changes as we keep trying to play the game and take some screens.

Gamespy's Initial Verdict: Wait On It

"Day Zero" patches (or "Day One," take your pick) have become one of the ugliest practices in PC game development.

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It's got the tried-and-true Battlefield gameplay, but also some of the same technical baggage, including the usual launch day patch nonsense.

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The poster child for this practice is EA and its Battlefield games. Nearly every full installment in the series has seen a patch released within 24 hours of launch, and in fact it was the release of Battlefield 1942 in 2002 that led us here at GameSpy.com to make a habit of delaying reviews for multiplayer games. The sci-fi themed Battlefield 2142, which ships today, is no different; one patch has already been released and a second patch (which should be server-side only) should be released by night's end [jbourne77 note: LMAO again]. As a result, we'll be testing over the next few days to get an accurate read on the online play before posting our final review, but with so many Battlefield fans here at GameSpy HQ, we've put together some initial impressions of what we've seen so far.

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Technically, BF2142 has performed pretty similarly to Battlefield 2, which is probably good news if you've upgraded anytime in the last year or so. However, it's hard not to wish that the game didn't have an extra coat of polish: there are occasional camera and clipping issues, our controls felt shaky at times, and the game still doesn't have support for widescreen resolutions. For the life of me, I don't quite understand why there's still a 5-second delay every time you hit the Esc key to go to the main menu; it's hard to think of any other games that have this kind of bloat. [jbourne77 note: BF2?]

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This is all a long way of saying what most gamers probably guessed: Battlefield 2142 has some great mulitplayer action that no other series can touch, but for a full-priced game, it might feel too much like a reskinned Battlefield 2 for some players, and the initial technical problems are an unquestionable downer. [jbourne77 note: quoted for posterity's/CVSiN's sake]

Of course, a few months from now, there will be people claiming that BF2142 - from a stability standpoint - was just like any other game.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

ROFL, nice quotes. Sign me up for some of that sweet gaming action!

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

Here's how I'm seeing the whole EA/DICE thing.

EA is putting up unrealistic deadlines for a second/amateur/whatever word you use developer who can't keep up.

Anything I'm missing here? Also, look at it this way, at least it's a good excuse for BF1942 servers to have players again

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX
Here's how I'm seeing the whole EA/DICE thing.

EA is putting up unrealistic deadlines for a second/amateur/whatever word you use developer who can't keep up.

Anything I'm missing here? Also, look at it this way, at least it's a good excuse for BF1942 servers to have players again

Couldn't have said it better myself. Not to knock on DICE, but I've seen code snippets: it's awful. They're a shop with AAA ideas and B-level competence and execution. From purely a skills standpoint, they are amateurs. EA's overly aggressive deadlines and marketing surely don't help matters.

 

[Queasy]

People People People. You are all looking at this in a "Glass is half empty" kind of way. If you looked at in the "Glass is half full" way, you'd realize that EA/DICE did a great job in putting out the release day patch when they didn't have to pull it back.