Beware Windows Update. Pre-cursor update for Win7 to get Win10

[BonzaiDuck]

Glad I happened to find this current thread.

I had read the announcement by a Microsoft "official" that they thought of the new OS as a "service" -- or did he say "public service?"

My memory (of just a few days) may be hazy about the details, but I thought it said "free upgrade." I assume this means for both OEM and retail installs of W7 SP1.

I also see that Windows Update has equipped me with the "preparatory" KB patch, but -- no problem.

All of these Win 7 64 installs are -- as they say -- clean as a whistle. I've tweaked and peeked every system in the house; everything is working like a Swiss watch. Nightly backups for every system are made with routine success with my WHS-2011 box.

I understand that there was a patch for [Win 2008 R2 or WHS-2011] that allows these backups to occur successfully for Win 8.x. That leaves the uncertainty about doing it with Win 10 installs. Without further information -- which may nevertheless exist -- I'll have to see what happens if I upgrade one system -- to test the water. And -- yes -- I know -- the WHS is orphaned; Win 2008 R2 is "old;" and there are newer, more expensive options.

I was hoping to defer those options for a good, long while. Plenty of time to find out, though.

 

[Ketchup]

So when when we "update" our systems to Windows 10, I wonder if we can re-install with a Windows 10 ISO using the key it gives us, or will need to go back to 7 and upgrade again?

 

[Z15CAM]

Just be careful and do a BackUp of your Win7 OS before playing with a Win10 UpGrade.

Note: Acronis may not work if you UpGrade the Win7 OS to Win10 and instal it on a New Main Board as SYS-Prep mabe unavailable when you UpGrade rather then using the actual Win10 SetUp that is a Fresh Installation.

If the CMD Command %windir%\System32\Sysprep\Sysprep.exe

SELECT: Enter System Out-of-Box-Experience (OOBE)
Check - GENERALIZE
SHUTDOWN

SysPrep SUCCEEDED.

Where the Win10 UpGrade does not respond to this Command, it is UNLIKELY that you can transfer your UpGraded Win7 to Win10 OS to a New Hardware Platform.

 

[thegummy]

So when when we "update" our systems to Windows 10, I wonder if we can re-install with a Windows 10 ISO using the key it gives us, or will need to go back to 7 and upgrade again?

You will get a key and can do a clean install from an ISO.

I have asked MS technical support this and they confirmed this will definitely be how it works. You have to use your current OS (7 or 8) to get the key in the first place then you can clean install from the ISO.

 

[Z15CAM]

NOTE: My deliberate focus on the definition of UpDating compared to UpGrading.

UpDating are HotFix's where as UpGrading are SP Pac's or UpGrading to a Newer Version of Win where SYS-Prep is no longer an option where you can migrate your OS to New HardWare unless you have the Original WinOS installed that has only been UpDated and not UpGraded.

Geez! I can't say it any other way - If you don't see it - I give up!

 

[RampantAndroid]

Why are you capitalizing like that? It's upgrading and updating. There isn't a one letter difference.

 

[Z15CAM]

Why are you capitalizing like that? It's upgrading and updating. There isn't a one letter difference.

Oop's fixed that - I'm dyslectic. I re-wrote my statement

 

[BonzaiDuck]

[nitpickers . . . :\ ]

It's nice to know we can either do an "update" or a clean install of Win 10, if such is the case.

There had always been a divergence of opinion about "Windows maintenance" and the frequency of clean installations. Maximum PC recommended doing fresh installations annually.

I've been able to maintain my initial installation of July, 2011 without unrecoverable mishap or deterioration up to the present day, so I reject Maximum's prescriptions. The history of it: three years running with ISRT configuration, and then a desperate but successful "restoration" from my server backup, followed by a clone transition to SSD.

But, despite the ponderous accumulation of essential (or even less essential) software, a new Windows version may be the prudent occasion to just "start over." A pain in the keester in one sense, it may be the most reliable option otherwise.

Of course, there's my own chicken-s*** approach that's developed considerably in the last decade or so. "Who's going to be the guinea-pig to find out how well the 'upgrade' approach works?" Heh-heh. 😀 I suppose I've got enough in the way of workstations that I could be a guinea pig with one of them . . .

 

[Mem]

[nitpickers . . . :\ ]

"Who's going to be the guinea-pig to find out how well the 'upgrade' approach works?" Heh-heh. 😀 I suppose I've got enough in the way of workstations that I could be a guinea pig with one of them . . .

I plan to with my Samsung laptop,it has been through Win7 to Win8 upgrade then 8 to 8.1 via Store,Win10 will follow the same path.

Btw it's still running great,problem with laptops/notebooks is all the crap they ship with as new from Dell/HP etc,removing all that bloat does wonders.

I might even do it with my Win8.1 gaming PC,also still have my two Linux PCs as backup that are running great so nothing to lose if it does screw up from 8.1 to 10,especially when all my software is backed up.

 

[squirrel dog]

so the user that is in a state of upgrade due to his computer hobby , as he changes chipsets(mobo),cpu's etc. how will an upgrade install work once the id'ed parts of the pc are changed ?

 

[Dahak]

so the user that is in a state of upgrade due to his computer hobby , as he changes chipsets(mobo),cpu's etc. how will an upgrade install work once the id'ed parts of the pc are changed ?

Best guess at the moment, it will probably work similar to doing it now. May need to re-activate, which might work fine over the internet, worse case is may need to call the activation number

 

[TheSlamma]

My advice would be get the key and an ISO for fresh install.. the upgrade to 10049 has had horrendous luck for me on a few different machines. On Hyper-V though it did fine, but on bare hardware especially with older NIC's it stops being able to get out to the internet, I get external DNS resolution but I can't even ping out. Anything on local subnet works 100% though. It also took the machines 3 hours to upgrade, but only about 30 minutes for fresh install.