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Syringer

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Aug 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: homestarmy
Those damn chinese, it's their fault that our gas prices are so high.

Actually, its our own fault. Its not more expensive for anyone else in the world, just us.

Wow, and the dumbass comment of the day award goes to ^
 
Aug 14, 2001
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I think it's a little too late for Chinese to become the predominant language. Much of the world already learns English at some level. Chinese is also difficult to learn and master, IMO.
 

danweb

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Originally posted by: homestarmy
Those damn chinese, it's their fault that our gas prices are so high.

You are a freaking retard
An American consumes 22x more gas more than a Chinese

Who is it to blame? Yes the Chinese has increased oil consumption dramatically the past 10 years, but Americans still consume way more than that.
 

Ronstang

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Jul 8, 2000
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To become a superpower China would have to be a nation of innovators instead of a nation of copycats. China still doesn't understand the concept of quality. China has a huge army with ho ability to project force except on to their immediate neighbors over land and until that changes China stands no chance as a superpower.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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publicity stunt:p english has spread so far and become the defacto language for so long that its pretty much impossible to unseat. look, there are more english speakers in india then there are in america:p
 

oogabooga

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Jan 14, 2003
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yea, but are the engish speakers in india all that intelligent compared to the english speakers in ame-... well damn.. they are.
 

Kibbo

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
To become a superpower China would have to be a nation of innovators instead of a nation of copycats. China still doesn't understand the concept of quality. China has a huge army with ho ability to project force except on to their immediate neighbors over land and until that changes China stands no chance as a superpower.

The US began it's industrial dominance by copying the British. The Japanese did so by copying the US. It's how the curve begins. A major reason the US remained on top of Japan is that they fostered a legal, economic and cultural environment that was fertile to innovation. Don't think that lesson has been lost on China. They need the educational and economic base to build up, but once that happens watch out.

That being said, US dominance (and Europe's second place) is very strong, and it wil take a long time for China to eclipse you. Also, both the US and Europe can do business more easily in Englesh (i'm leaving that typo in 'cause it made me laugh) than Chineese, so linguistic dominance will come even more slowly than economic dominance. Also, Glenn has a good point that India will get a substantial share of the spoils.

The real benefits will go to those who can operate in both languages and cultures.
 
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If anyone moves to the {insert country here} they need to learn to speak {insert that country's national language}. If I moved to {insert country here} I'd need to learn thier national language.

I'm so sick of immigrants who have lived nearly thier entire lives in the States, and still refuse to learn even basic English.
 

Mo0o

Lifer
Jul 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: welst10
Woah, that's gotta be an advertisement by someone. But why?

Maybe it's just a current comment on globalization and the upsurge in CHina's political and cultural influence throughout the world.
 

welst10

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: welst10
Woah, that's gotta be an advertisement by someone. But why?

Maybe it's just a current comment on globalization and the upsurge in CHina's political and cultural influence throughout the world.

I never read that newspaper. But it's kinda strange to put an editorial (if that's indeed its ed/op) on front page.
 

Mo0o

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Jul 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: welst10
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: welst10
Woah, that's gotta be an advertisement by someone. But why?

Maybe it's just a current comment on globalization and the upsurge in CHina's political and cultural influence throughout the world.

I never read that newspaper. But it's kinda strange to put an editorial (if that's indeed its ed/op) on front page.

It's a special weekend edition. And it's is really attention grabbing which usualy = more papers sold.
 

Lonyo

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Aug 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
why the fsck would we learn chinese when chinese schoolchildren are being taught english?

How the fsck would you learn Chinese when you can't even learn English properly? :p
 

MrCodeDude

Lifer
Jun 23, 2001
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If I ever go to China, I'll brush up on my Chinese.

I only speak two languages in the states. English and profanity.
 

n0cmonkey

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I've been telling people they should learn Chinese for years now. China is the world's most powerful country.
 

CanOWorms

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I don't think that Chinese will replace English as the most important language in the world, unless China starts a massive colonialism effort like the British did.
 

Crappopotamus

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i dont think chinese will ever replace english. its way too hard to learn to read and write... its bascially straight memorization - theres no phonetic system.

question: are there more chinese speaking people than french speaking people in canada? french is still the second official language, yet i know only a dozen fluent french speakers.
 

Eug

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English > French >> Chinese > Italian

According to the 2001 Census, nine out of 10 people in Canada still speak either the English or French languages at home. All the other languages reported as mother tongue are not spoken at home as frequently.

Only 10 percent spoke a language other than English or French at home, compared to 18 percent who reported another language as their mother tongue.

The 2001 Census total of anglophones, those who report their mother tongue as English, was 17.5 million, or 59.1 percent of the population of Canada, down from 59.8 percent at the last census in 1996.

The 2001 Census total of francophones, those who report their mother tongue as French, was 6.8 million, or 22.9 percent of the population, down from 23.5 percent in 1996.

Languages other than English and French

In contrast, the 2001 Census total of allophones, those who report a mother tongue other than English or French, was 5.3 million, or 18 percent of the population, up from 16.6 percent in the 1996 census.

Chinese is the third most common mother tongue in Canada, with the number of people reporting Chinese as their mother tongue at a total of 872,400. That's approximately 2.9 percent of the total population of Canada, up about 0.3 percent since 1996.

The other most common languages reported as mother tongue were

Italian
German
Punjabi
Spanish
 

yhelothar

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Dec 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: Eug


Originally posted by: Einz
Originally posted by: Albis
traditional chinese is easier to read
What the heck are you smoking? There's a reason one is called traditional chinese and the other is called simplified.
Yup. The simplified is MUCH easier to read for a n00b. However, I can't really read either. :p

Depends on where you're from. If you're from china, then you grew up to learn simplified. If you're from taiwan or hong kong, then you learned traditional growing up, and that's what's easier to read for them.
 

dighn

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Aug 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Depends on where you're from. If you're from china, then you grew up to learn simplified. If you're from taiwan or hong kong, then you learned traditional growing up, and that's what's easier to read for them.

simplified sure is easier to write though
 

yhelothar

Lifer
Dec 11, 2002
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question: are there more chinese speaking people than french speaking people in canada? french is still the second official language, yet i know only a dozen fluent french speakers.
Are you stupid? There are more chinese speaking people in the world than any other language.
 

clicknext

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Mar 27, 2002
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My uncle said that in the next generation or two, Chinese will surpass English as the international language. At the time, I was about 10 years old, visiting his house in Beijing, China and I laughed. But now, I'm not so sure...
 

clicknext

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: Eug


Originally posted by: Einz
Originally posted by: Albis
traditional chinese is easier to read
What the heck are you smoking? There's a reason one is called traditional chinese and the other is called simplified.
Yup. The simplified is MUCH easier to read for a n00b. However, I can't really read either. :p

Depends on where you're from. If you're from china, then you grew up to learn simplified. If you're from taiwan or hong kong, then you learned traditional growing up, and that's what's easier to read for them.
There's a reason it's called simplified. Far less strokes, so it makes it much easier for beginners to remember.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
question: are there more chinese speaking people than french speaking people in canada? french is still the second official language, yet i know only a dozen fluent french speakers.
Are you stupid? There are more chinese speaking people in the world than any other language.

I'd think that there are more people that know English than Chinese.