better cpu?

[adqttr]

hey,
I am looking at buying a cpu to build a decent computer, but not a great one and i was wondering, which one of these cpus would be better for me.

Intel Pentium D 820 Smithfield
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819116213

or

AMD 64 4000+ San Diego
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103529

or

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Manchester
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103562

I am goiong to use it for playing games and making dvd's.
thanks for anyone who can lend me an opinion.

 

[Cheex]

I would suggest you go with the Penium D 820.

Reasons:
For gaming, the Athlon 64 4000+ would be better but with newer games coming, they are going to be making more use of a dual core CPU.
For making dvd's, the Pentium D 820 would be better because work like that shows a significant increase in productivity while using a dual core processor.

Price: Going the route of the D 820 you would save $21 but...If your current budget is not a restraint (willing to spend $140 for the 4000+), then i would suggest getting the following:
Intel Pentium D 915 Presler 800MHz FSB 2 x 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor
This costs $145 and is of much better value based on price/performance.

 

[adqttr]

the only thing with the 915 is that everyone is talking about heat issues with it, and i want to be able to leave the pc on all day and not worry about the heat issue or the noise issue either.

 

[996GT2]

The 820 will run hotter than the 9XX CPUs since it's based on 90nm vs 65 nm. Also, if you can afford a 4000+, why not just get a 3800X2? The price is similar and the dual-core chip will vastly outperform a Pentium D 820 even with no overclocking.

If you MUST go for one of the above I would actually suggest the 4000+ unless you are a heavy multitasker. Even though it's single core, it's performance is very good out of teh box, and overclocked it can reach FX55-57 speeds. If you just want a computer mainly for games, the 4000+ is the way to go out of those two.

 

[adqttr]

I didnt know that the dual core amd's where that low...thanks very much for that heads up. that cpu is definetly in the discussion as well then.

 

[Geomagick]

Originally posted by: 996GT2
The 820 will run hotter than the 9XX CPUs since it's based on 90nm vs 65 nm. Also, if you can afford a 4000+, why not just get a 3800X2? The price is similar and the dual-core chip will vastly outperform a Pentium D 820 even with no overclocking.

As I have just done for my Dad and he's chuffed to bits with his new X2 system, he also leaves his system on most of the time.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Core2Duo?

 

[stevty2889]

Yeah of those go with the 3800+ X2, it's faster than the 820, and runs a lot cooler.

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: adqttr
the only thing with the 915 is that everyone is talking about heat issues with it, and i want to be able to leave the pc on all day and not worry about the heat issue or the noise issue either.

The 915 will run a good bit cooler than the 820, the 8xx series pentium-d's were the biggest flamethrowers made by Intel. The 9xx series runs a good bit cooler.

 

[adqttr]

Originally posted by: George Powell

Originally posted by: 996GT2
The 820 will run hotter than the 9XX CPUs since it's based on 90nm vs 65 nm. Also, if you can afford a 4000+, why not just get a 3800X2? The price is similar and the dual-core chip will vastly outperform a Pentium D 820 even with no overclocking.

As I have just done for my Dad and he's chuffed to bits with his new X2 system, he also leaves his system on most of the time.

Thanks a lot for your input but maybe its because i am more of a newbie then you but what does the expression "Cuffed to bits" mean. just wondering. I think i can tell it is good but i am not sure.

 

[betasub]

Originally posted by: adqttr
Thanks a lot for your input but maybe its because i am more of a newbie then you but what does the expression "Cuffed to bits" mean. just wondering. I think i can tell it is good but i am not sure.

:laugh: "Chuffed to bits" = delighted (UK slang)

 

[Cheex]

The Pentium D 915 is a basically a repackaged D 920.
The only difference between them is that the 915 does not have Virtualization Technology (VT).
Also, the 915 possesses a new revision...The C1 Stepping.
This C1 Stepping allows the 915 to even cooler than its other 9xx brothers.

 

[stevty2889]

Either way, the X2 3800+ at stock speeds, performs around the levels of a pentium-d 940/950, so it's still the better choice.

 

[krotchy]

Manchester, Hands Down.

Single core = burn DVD's and not able to do anything else while you do that. Pentium D's suck. A Core 2 Duo E6300 would be the best choice if you could wait. But now: X2 3800+ no comparison.

 

[classy]

3800x2 is the best choice of that lot.

 

[adqttr]

Originally posted by: Cheex
The Pentium D 915 is a basically a repackaged D 920.
The only difference between them is that the 915 does not have Virtualization Technology (VT).
Also, the 915 possesses a new revision...The C1 Stepping.
This C1 Stepping allows the 915 to even cooler than its other 9xx brothers.

are you saying you would choice the pentium D

 

[LW07]

I would get the Pentium D 820 with this mobo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813121035

and whatever ram you want to go with that so that you'll be able to get a Core 2 CPU if you should decide to upgrade again later.

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: LW07
I would get the Pentium D 820 with this mobo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813121035

and whatever ram you want to go with that so that you'll be able to get a Core 2 CPU if you should decide to upgrade again later.

The 820 runs way slower than the 3800+ X2, runs a lot hotter than the 3800+ X2, so why should he get the 820 if the 3800+ is in his price range??

 

[LW07]

Originally posted by: stevty2889

Originally posted by: LW07
I would get the Pentium D 820 with this mobo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813121035

and whatever ram you want to go with that so that you'll be able to get a Core 2 CPU if you should decide to upgrade again later.

The 820 runs way slower than the 3800+ X2, runs a lot hotter than the 3800+ X2, so why should he get the 820 if the 3800+ is in his price range??

Because he'll be able to upgrade to the Conroe CPUs later if he chooses without buying the mobo and ram then.

 

[adqttr]

I am not really looking to upgrade this system for atleast 2 years so i dun want to buy something with upgrading in mind. thanks for the help tho

 

[Henny]

Save up $80 more and get this:
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You'll be happier in the long run.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

x2 3800+ hands down. It will overclock to highend X2 speeds and it's cheap, proven reliability and a mature platform.

An overclocked E6300 will be better performance for CPU intense apps, but because of current availability, higher cost, and bleeding edge new platform that has already proven to be quite flaky and loaded with compatability issues, I wouldn't consider a core 2 duo system for a couple of months.

 

[adqttr]

Henny: why do you think i will be happier with that?

 

[gobucks]

Originally posted by: Henny
Save up $80 more and get this:
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You'll be happier in the long run.

wow that is a pretty good price for the e6300, and that CPU is definitely a great performer, and probably worth the extra $30 over the 3800+ X2. great performance, low heat, tremendous overclocking.

Of the chips listed though, the 3800+ is the best one. performace is good, heat isn't too high, and overclocking is decent, so if you're worried about single threaded performance vs. the 4000+, you should easily be able to hit 2.4-2.5GHz or higher with it.

The Pentium D 820 sucks - performance is not very good and it eats up tons of power and spits out tons of heat - if you think about it, all that extra power will end up making the chip much more expensive in the long run.

The 915 is better, at least in terms of heat and power, but performance is still inferior to AMD's and especially Core 2 Duo.

 

[akshayt]

Gaming today: Amd 4000
Gaming tomorrow or gaming today after overclock or doing mutlitasking anyday : X2 3800, don't know about core

D 820 : in your toy computer