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BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy

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Video at link
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...nson_to_obama_stop_attacking_the_wealthy.html
BET founder Robert Johnson on the "FOX News Sunday" program: "Well, I think the president has to recalibrate his message. You don't get people to like you by attacking them or demeaning their success. You know, I grew up in a family of 10 kids, first one to go to college, and I've earned my success. I've earned my right to fly private if I choose to do so.

"And by attacking me it is not going to convince me that I should take a bigger hit because I happen to be wealthy. You know, it is the old -- I think Ted and Fred and I we both sort of take the old Ethel Merman approach to life. I've tried poor and I tried rich and I like rich better. It doesn't mean that I am a bad guy.

"I didn't go in to business to create a public policy success for either party, Republican or Democrat. I went in business to create jobs and opportunity, create opportunity, create value for myself and my investors. And that's what the president should be praising, not demagoguing us simply because Warren Buffet says he pays more than his secretary. He should pay the secretary more and she will pay more."
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Some great quotes by a man who earned his money through hard work.

FYI Johnson is a big time Democrat.
 
ProfJohn said:
Video at link
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...nson_to_obama_stop_attacking_the_wealthy.html

Some great quotes by a man who earned his money through hard work.

FYI Johnson is a big time Democrat.
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Don't attack the wealthy. They have a lot of bad feelings about having all the money. Instead of attacking them tax them so they pay their fair share and don't feel so guilty. It's like that guy that shot that congresswoman in the head. He's insane but they are making him take medicine against his will because the sane have the audacity to hope. Same thing here. Tax them against their will to make them healthy again. Only the sane can be tired and convicted. This class war is one we are going to win. It's just a change in the tide of battle. The rich, who have been winning for decades are going to learn about retreat, white flags, and begging for mercy. Fucking selfish bastards.

The rich have relied on the insanity of religious fanatics to reach power. Well there's a force out there greater than that and it's the envy of the poor for the money of the rich. Sick the sick. Go get um boys. You're soon to be offered cake and then it's off with their heads.
 
Ouch, that's going to leave a mark. Obama's in real trouble when even BET is calling him out on his class warfare. Ouch. His base is crumbling all around him.
 
spidey07 said:
Ouch, that's going to leave a mark. Obama's in real trouble when even BET is calling him out on his class warfare. Ouch. His base is crumbling all around him.
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So..... black people are expected to support the president simply because he is black too?

Chris Rock said it first but I'll say it again. This ain't about race. It's about money. If OJ drove a school bus for a living he would be known as Orenthal the bus driving murderer. Don't think this is some kind of race issue just because the owner of this TV station happens to be black.
 
BET founder Robert Johnson on the "FOX News Sunday" program: "Well, I think the president has to recalibrate his message. You don't get people to like you by attacking them or demeaning their success.

M: What a total fuck tard. The greedy rich hate Obama. They are doing all they can to fuck him. There is nothing he could ever do to change that. The answer is to fuck them back. These assholes are destroying the nation for their own benefit.

You know, I grew up in a family of 10 kids, first one to go to college, and I've earned my success. I've earned my right to fly private if I choose to do so.

M: This asshole didn't earn anything that wasn't made possible for him to earn by the collective work of the nation to make this a place where ambition could go somewhere.

He ows big time for every cent he has made. Fucking egotistical bastard. He was born with a few brains and tremendous opportunity and attributes his success to himself. That mother of 10 was ten times as successful as him. Piece of shit. Where's the fucking gratitude, asshole.

"And by attacking me it is not going to convince me that I should take a bigger hit because I happen to be wealthy. You know, it is the old -- I think Ted and Fred and I we both sort of take the old Ethel Merman approach to life. I've tried poor and I tried rich and I like rich better. It doesn't mean that I am a bad guy.

M: It's not money that makes you a piece of shit, you worthless asshole. It's your fucking ego and the fantasy that you have some inner virtue that made you win. You won, as I said, because the world you lived in, the system, was built by cooperation and intent of folk with the common good in mind.

"I didn't go in to business to create a public policy success for either party, Republican or Democrat. I went in business to create jobs and opportunity, create opportunity, create value for myself and my investors. And that's what the president should be praising, not demagoguing us simply because Warren Buffet says he pays more than his secretary. He should pay the secretary more and she will pay more."

M: Lying fuck! Corporations and the wealthy are sitting on their money. They don't want to hire folk that are unemployed, they might be tainted, they are opening shop overseas. But he's right about one thing: The minimum wage should go up to 20 dollars an hour so workers start paying income tax.
 
Whatever class warfare may be coming from the left or the right these days, it isn't really coming from Obama if you actually listen to his speeches. He's framing the issue by stating that most wealthy people believe they should pay their fair share. He's going out of his way to not portray them as greedy.

The question for people on the right who think Obama's policy stance here is "class warfare," is: is there any way someone could believe that taxes should be increased for the wealthy at any given time where you wouldn't consider it "class warfare?"
 
I dunno, I fail to see how he is "attacking" the wealthy. All he is trying to do is put the tax code back to where it was in the Clinton years. It's not exactly class warfare. That and he is himself wealthy.
 
What we really need is a Republican in office that would accelerate America's race to the bottom so we can quadruple the poverty in this country...Pretty soon the Right is going to run out of people to fuck.
 
woolfe9999 said:
Whatever class warfare may be coming from the left or the right these days, it isn't really coming from Obama if you actually listen to his speeches. He's framing the issue by stating that most wealthy people believe they should pay their fair share. He's going out of his way to not portray them as greedy.

The question for people on the right who think Obama's policy stance here is "class warfare," is: is there any way someone could believe that taxes should be increased for the wealthy at any given time where you wouldn't consider it "class warfare?"
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Sure, if they increase across the board for all income levels. That would be fair and not class warfare. And he is SORELY mistaken if he thinks most "rich" people think they should pay more taxes. Do you honestly believe that? Or are you just slobbing the buffet knob?
 
woolfe9999 said:
Whatever class warfare may be coming from the left or the right these days, it isn't really coming from Obama if you actually listen to his speeches. He's framing the issue by stating that most wealthy people believe they should pay their fair share. He's going out of his way to not portray them as greedy.
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Because he's right. Being rich or even just upper middle class doesn't mean you are greedy or evil. Sometimes it just means you are rich. If I were paid $500/hour to do my current job, would that suddenly make me greedy? If they offer that, I would be an idiot to say no to it.

If you are wanting to raise taxes just to say "fuck you" to the upper class then you are doing it for the wrong reasons. Taxes should only be increased for the sake of revenue generation. If there is a shortage of tax money, slash programs and raise taxes. If there's no need to increase revenue, then there's no reason to raise taxes.
 
ShawnD1 said:
Because he's right. Being rich or even just upper middle class doesn't mean you are greedy or evil. Sometimes it just means you are rich. If I were paid $500/hour to do my current job, would that suddenly make me greedy? If they offer that, I would be an idiot to say no to it.

If you are wanting to raise taxes just to say "fuck you" to the upper class then you are doing it for the wrong reasons. Taxes should only be increased for the sake of revenue generation. If there is a shortage of tax money, slash programs and raise taxes. If there's no need to increase revenue, then there's no reason to raise taxes.
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Slave owning doesn't mean you are greedy or evil. Just that you own slaves.
 
Class Warfare is what the rich scream when their war against the poor and middle class comes under threat. You always attribute your own motivations to what others are doing to you. The thief fears he will be robbed, the liar that he will be lied to, the rich that people he profits from will want something from him.

And don't forget that everybody hate himself and builds an ego to hide that fact, and money is value. So for the rich their money is their denial of how they feel. "See, I have money, so I'm not really worthless." And when you ask they to pay taxes you ask them to feel how they feel, worthless. That is why they don't like to pay, and why Jesus had not the slightest interest in money. He knew that He was the light and the way for the folk of his day. But it took no time at all for the worthless to turn his words into a money making church. It's how folk who feel worthless work. Profit for them is never internal. Internal is where the worthless self resides. Just so you know, those of you who worship money and don't see why.
 
spidey07 said:
Sure, if they increase across the board for all income levels. That would be fair and not class warfare. And he is SORELY mistaken if he thinks most "rich" people think they should pay more taxes. Do you honestly believe that? Or are you just slobbing the buffet knob?
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I do know that most Republicans what to raise taxes on the rich. The Republican party, on the other hand, doesn't want what its members want. Time for folk with a brain to leave that stink hole party like my Mommy, bless her formerly Republican heart.
 
Pay their fair share...... insinuating that they're not contributing is an insult = attacking.


Hah, now " just because the president is black and the owners are black doesn't mean anything!" but if it were a white guy the libs would be screaming "racist!"
 
ProfJohn said:
Johnson is the founder of BET.

He is also the first black to become a billionaire.

There are some great anti-Obama quotes from him when he was supporting Hillary.
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Again, what does BET have to do with this? Johnson isn't involved with BET anymore as far as I know. Even then, he's not speaking on behalf of BET.
 
Craig234 said:
Slave owning doesn't mean you are greedy or evil. Just that you own slaves.
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The way to tell that I'm evil is that my life style is much better than some of the people around me. I have a home, I have a car, I have clothes that fit properly. Some people have none of those. Sure it's not directly my fault that the guy working at McDonalds does not have a car, but I'm still evil. My having a car somehow means that I'm screwing him over. It's a fact.
 
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And that's what the president should be praising, not demagoguing us simply because Warren Buffet says he pays more than his secretary. He should pay the secretary more and she will pay more.
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Clearly this man either doesn't understand the issue or has a problem communicating.
 
spidey07 said:
Sure, if they increase across the board for all income levels. That would be fair and not class warfare. And he is SORELY mistaken if he thinks most "rich" people think they should pay more taxes. Do you honestly believe that? Or are you just slobbing the buffet knob?
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I don't know if he actually believes it. What I think is that he's bending over backwards to not portray the wealthy as greedy here. He's saying, this isn't an us versus them thing because lots of wealthy people support this and think they should give back. Whether or not that is accurate, he is presenting it in a way that doesn't sound a lot like class warfare. It's more along the lines of, we have a deficit problem and only the wealthy can really afford a tax increase right now.

It seems pretty clear that you guys (or you, at any rate) think any tax increase on the wealthy that isn't done "across the board" constitutes class warfare per se. You're entitled to that opinion, but I was responding to the comments made in the OP article which I think do not accurately characterize Obama's position.
 
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spidey07 said:
Sure, if they increase across the board for all income levels. That would be fair and not class warfare. And he is SORELY mistaken if he thinks most "rich" people think they should pay more taxes. Do you honestly believe that? Or are you just slobbing the buffet knob?
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Over the last 30 years, taxes weren't cut across the board, at all. The top 1% now keeps ~11% more of their income than in 1980, while the bottom 50% keeps ~3% more.

Meanwhile, the top 1% share of income more than doubled, while that of the bottom 50% fell by nearly a third. The top .01% income grew by 480%, the median family's by 21%.

It's obvious who's been waging and winning class warfare, and it's not the lower 99% of earners.

Proposed tax increases would only affect those portions of earned income above $250K & LTCG, anyway, so you're probably safe, Spidey. At most, Uncle Sam wants an additional $50 out of every $1000 above that level.

Call the Wahmbulance, will ya? The vast majority of Americans would give their left nut to pay big taxes on big money.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/23/o...ial-contract.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
 
Jhhnn, see that isn't cool. That means we're not being taxed fairly, this is why we need to get rid of our progressive tax system and go to a much more simpler flat tax rate where one cannot get out of paying it. All loop holes will closed.
 
ShawnD1 said:
The way to tell that I'm evil is that my life style is much better than some of the people around me. I have a home, I have a car, I have clothes that fit properly. Some people have none of those. Sure it's not directly my fault that the guy working at McDonalds does not have a car, but I'm still evil. My having a car somehow means that I'm screwing him over. It's a fact.
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No, you're an idiot. No one is attacking the middle class things you list.
 
Jhhnn said:
Over the last 30 years, taxes weren't cut across the board, at all. The top 1% now keeps ~11% more of their income than in 1980, while the bottom 50% keeps ~3% more.

Meanwhile, the top 1% share of income more than doubled, while that of the bottom 50% fell by nearly a third. The top .01% income grew by 480%, the median family's by 21%.
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You keep talking in percentages ignoring the fact that wealth has been CREATED in America over that period of time and the overall wealth base has grown.

When you talk about dollars and cents, the bottom 99% controls more money when adjusted for inflation than they did 30 years ago.

The GDP in 1980 (2005 dollars) was $5.8 trillion.
The GDP in 2010 (2005 dollars) was $13 trillion.
http://www.measuringworth.com/graph...0&year_to=2010&table=US&field=NOMINALGDP&log=
 
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Patranus said:
You keep talking in percentages ignoring the fact that wealth has been CREATED in America over that period of time and the overall wealth base has grown.

When you talk about dollars and cents, the bottom 99% controls more money when adjusted for inflation than they did 30 years ago.

The GDP in 1980 (2005 dollars) was $5.8 trillion.
The GDP in 2010 (2005 dollars) was $13 trillion.
http://www.measuringworth.com/graph...0&year_to=2010&table=US&field=NOMINALGDP&log=
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Does that factor in the fact that the population went from 220 million to 307 million in that time?
 
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