Best wireless gaming mouse on the market?

[Ararat]

Hi all,

My Sidewinder X8 has seen better days. It works fine, but unfortunately doesn't recharge it's battery properly. So I'm seeking a replacement.

Is the Logitech G700s currently considered one of the best wireless gaming mice out there? It seems ideal, as it appears to function as a wired mouse while plugged in via micro-USB to charge the battery. Basically how I thought the Sidewinder would work based on some reviews, but in reality, it just charged the battery but continued to operate wirelessly.

I mainly play FPS and Strategy games with it, most other genres I play with a gamepad.

Not wanting to start a flame war... but Optical vs Laser?

 

[videogames101]

Optical vs. Laser:

Optical sensors such as the one found in the g400/s are typically considered the most true and accurate available.

Laser sensors are often characterized as having acceleration issues at higher speeds.

You would likely not notice a difference unless you are xxhardcore_pro)sniper_dubstep!!!!yourmomxxx420xx pro quake player.



As for wireless mice, the g700s and it's lineage are considered some of the best, mostly because of their battery systems (read: G7). The g700s operates through the cable while charging via the cable, that is to say it does send data across the cable and disables it's wireless function while plugged in.

That being said many folks swear by other brands of mice like razor, and the only thing I can suggest is finding a friend with the mouse you're interested in and making sure you like how they actually feel in your hand.

 

[Wall Street]

I would definitely get a G602 over a G700/G700s. The G602 is smaller, lighter, has better battery life and better tracking. Hands down the one to get if you go Logitech. The G602 lets you use only one battery which further reduces the weight to make it feel much closer to a wired mouse.

 

[Ararat]

I would definitely get a G602 over a G700/G700s. The G602 is smaller, lighter, has better battery life and better tracking. Hands down the one to get if you go Logitech. The G602 lets you use only one battery which further reduces the weight to make it feel much closer to a wired mouse.

They weigh basically the same when the G602 has 2 batteries inserted. It is true that you can operate with one, but you can also operate the G700s with no batteries (wired) and get the same effect. Personally, I palm grip my mice, so weight is a non issue for me.

I did take a look, and I think the G602 is far better looking than the G700s, but no rechargeability is a bit of a dealbreaker for me... I may as well keep using my SideWinder if I'm going to keep throwing batteries at it.

What do you mean by better tracking though, is it in some way more accurate?

 

[Wall Street]

I did take a look, and I think the G602 is far better looking than the G700s, but no rechargeability is a bit of a dealbreaker for me... I may as well keep using my SideWinder if I'm going to keep throwing batteries at it.

The tracking is more accurate. The G602 uses the same optical sensor in the G100S. The G700s uses a laser that is known to have acceleration issues. This means that if you move the mouse slowly one direction then quickly in the other direction to where you started, the mouse pointer may not end up in the same place on the screen as you started on the G700s but will with the G602.

I know what you are saying about recharges, but look at the battery life. The G602 advertises months of battery life. 250 hours in gaming mode and 1400 hours in normal mode, or half that if using one battery. The G700s doesn't have an advertised battery life, but lasts less than 12 hours. Just keep one recharged AA near the G602 and you are good to go.

 

[Ben90]

I'd honestly be cautious about the G700s/G602. I'm not going to discredit them as bad mice, but it's hard to find reliable information about them. The G700 (not G700s) has a horrible malfunction speed, and the G100S (not g602) has a mediocre malfunction speed, but can't track worth a crap from the two reviews I've seen. This may have changed in the G700 -> G700s transition and maybe the G602 fixes the issues the G100s has with its sensor, but I can't find any concrete evidence out there.

I will say I was absolutely blown away with the Razer Ouroboros. It isn't completely perfect and looks faggy, but the sensor performance is just on another level to anything else I've ever tried. There are a couple of nuances related to the wireless and software, but they don't interfere with the core operation. It doesn't skip at all in wireless mode.

The only downside to the Ouroboros is it's made by Razer and will undoubtedly fall apart within a year. My right click squeaks; although I must admit it makes me laugh since I'm always hating on Razer's build quality. Adjust the palm rest/side grips to where you are happy and super glue that shit together.

The MSPaint test is at 8200DPI. It shows some jitter, but is actually pretty damn good for 8200.

 

[Ararat]

Ok, thanks guys, I've decided to hold off for the time being, so I can have a proper think about it. I can't see myself buying a Razer mouse, a couple of friends own some, and they look like toys.

 

[Ben90]

Another option is to just buy another Sidewinder if you are happy with it. I may have been a bit harsh on the G700 as I am an extremely low sensitivity gamer, and a large majority of mice that I write off as "too slow" may be the perfect fit for someone else. Think about what you liked and didn't like about the Sidewinder instead of looking for the perfect mouse, because there isn't a perfect mouse out there.

For instance, for someone like me where malfunction speed is basically the metric in which I judge mice, there is still a certain threshold where it stops mattering. It is entirely possible the G700 could handle your mousing habits without a problem and be the perfect mouse for you.

 

[Ararat]

The Sidewinder is now very difficult to come by in Australia, and no, I'm not happy with it. The performance of the mouse itself was fine (as long as the receiver is relatively close by), but I consider the device defective from inception.

The charging mechanism is fundamentally flawed, and not only does it sometimes fail to charge (more and more of a problem as it aged), but it doesn't really tell you whether or not the mouse is charging when it's off. The magnetic attachment mechanism is very clunky, and not only does it not revert to wired mode when attached, but it becomes nearly unusable (the laser flashes while charging if the mouse is on, and the cursor jumps about on screen despite the mouse being stationary on the desk) while charging.

It was an unpolished product for a premium price, and I was disappointed.

I did end up picking up a G700S because it went on special. I'm pleased with it so far. I like that I can charge it from any micro-USB port, and the connection is very secure. If I'm not pleased with its performance, I can buy a G602, and use the G700S as a recharger for the G602's batteries. Best of both worlds

 

[Patre]

I have had the G700 for about 5 months and do like it, but noticed the alst couple of weeks (playing Team Fortress 2) that when it's wireless, the screen locks momentarily (meaning I get stuck going in one direction and can't change for a couple of secs). When wired, it doesn't do this and works really well.

Is there a setting that can be adjusted to fix this or is this an acceleration issue?

 

[Ararat]

Have you tried increasing the polling rate? I haven't noticed this issue with mine, but the g700s uses a different sensor than the g700.

 

[Wall Street]

That isn't an acceleration issue, it sounds like the receiver is losing the signal. Can you put the receiver closer to the mouse? Is it transmitting through a metal desk or over a long distance?

 

[Patre]

That isn't an acceleration issue, it sounds like the receiver is losing the signal. Can you put the receiver closer to the mouse? Is it transmitting through a metal desk or over a long distance?

The wired USB is always plugged into the Desktop base and I only use it to charge the mouse (now, I use it much more due this little issue). The PC is actually quite close (less than 3 ft.) and the desk is wood.

I'm not at home right now, but if I remember correctly, the mini USB is also plugged into the Desktop. Could this be the cause of this issue??

 

[Capt Caveman]

Love my G700.