best weapon to carry around in the city

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Not even REMOTELY true. There are only about 930 accidental deaths a year, and of course a slightly greater number of accidents that don't result in death (mortality from gunshot accidents is unfortunately very high). Let's call it a maximum of 5000 firearm accidents a year (to include those that go unreported, etc).

Meanwhile, there were 1,400,000 violent crimes in 2006. So you are about 300 times more likely to be a victim of crime than to be the victim of a firearm accident.

Perhaps, but how many of those 1.4 million violent crimes are actually random events? I may not be reporting any numbers at all, but at least I'm not reporting misleading ones! Also, consider how many violent crimes are completely unpreventable even with a gun. If a man has a gun to your head, you're fucked and the gun in your holster isn't going to change that.

Over 80% of rape victims know their attackers, for instance. Many violent crimes are not random chance events like what we're considering. I'm not aware of how many random violent crimes occur, but I'm sure it's pretty comparable to number of firearm accidents

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

In fact, in only 24% of all violent crimes is any weapon present. That means if you carry a gun you're going to be better armed than your attacker three-quarters of the time. Doesn't mean you can get it into play necessarily, but it does mean in the VAST majority of violent crimes you won't face a firearm.

74% of males robbed were robbed by a stranger, while 48% of females were.

57% of murders were committed by a stranger.

So we can roughly estimate that at least 700,000 violent crimes every year are committed at random/by a stranger, and that only 175,000 of them are armed (with even fewer being armed with a firearm). 900 accidents, 175,000 unarmed attacks by a total stranger. In other words, you're completely and totally wrong.

This is why people who don't study things seriously shouldn't form any sort of opinion about them...you simply don't have a damned clue what you're talking about.

edit: oh yeah, and btw about rape/sexual assault, against females it's actually 64% people they know, but for males it's 46% people they know. Yes, it's a higher percentage of intimates, but still a very large number of strangers.

You've completely missed the point. Robbery is only one type of violent crime. I think you require better reading comprehension.

This is why morons shouldn't form any sort of opinion... you simply don't have a damn clue what you're trying to argue about :roll:

Stating that 57% of murders were committed by a stranger and using that alone to claim that 50% of all violent crimes are random is idiocy.

Says the guy who never provided any numbers or facts.

 

[Eeezee]

You caught me in the middle of an edit, actually. The point is that he needs to learn how to read :roll:

The burden of proof is not on my shoulders anyway. He's trying to convince me that carrying a gun is MUCH more likely to save you in a dangerous situation, and that this probability is 300x greater than the chance of accidental gun-related injury. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

So yeah, go DIAF thepd7

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Not even REMOTELY true. There are only about 930 accidental deaths a year, and of course a slightly greater number of accidents that don't result in death (mortality from gunshot accidents is unfortunately very high). Let's call it a maximum of 5000 firearm accidents a year (to include those that go unreported, etc).

Meanwhile, there were 1,400,000 violent crimes in 2006. So you are about 300 times more likely to be a victim of crime than to be the victim of a firearm accident.

Perhaps, but how many of those 1.4 million violent crimes are actually random events? I may not be reporting any numbers at all, but at least I'm not reporting misleading ones! Also, consider how many violent crimes are completely unpreventable even with a gun. If a man has a gun to your head, you're fucked and the gun in your holster isn't going to change that.

Over 80% of rape victims know their attackers, for instance. Many violent crimes are not random chance events like what we're considering. I'm not aware of how many random violent crimes occur, but I'm sure it's pretty comparable to number of firearm accidents

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

In fact, in only 24% of all violent crimes is any weapon present. That means if you carry a gun you're going to be better armed than your attacker three-quarters of the time. Doesn't mean you can get it into play necessarily, but it does mean in the VAST majority of violent crimes you won't face a firearm.

74% of males robbed were robbed by a stranger, while 48% of females were.

57% of murders were committed by a stranger.

So we can roughly estimate that at least 700,000 violent crimes every year are committed at random/by a stranger, and that only 175,000 of them are armed (with even fewer being armed with a firearm). 900 accidents, 175,000 unarmed attacks by a total stranger. In other words, you're completely and totally wrong.

This is why people who don't study things seriously shouldn't form any sort of opinion about them...you simply don't have a damned clue what you're talking about.

edit: oh yeah, and btw about rape/sexual assault, against females it's actually 64% people they know, but for males it's 46% people they know. Yes, it's a higher percentage of intimates, but still a very large number of strangers.

You've completely missed the point. Robbery is only one type of violent crime. I think you require better reading comprehension.

This is why morons shouldn't form any sort of opinion... you simply don't have a damn clue what you're trying to argue about :roll:

Stating that 57% of murders were committed by a stranger and using that alone to claim that 50% of all violent crimes are random is idiocy.

edit: Clearly the numbers on rape vary considerably. Here are numerous conflicting sources, the percent I've included is the percentage of victims who knew their assailant
http://wellness.uwsp.edu/medin...teAcquaintanceRape.pdf (90%)
http://www.wcstx.com/friendrp.htm (80%)
http://www.cer.truthaboutrape.co.uk/3.html (97%)
http://www.rainn.org/statistics (73%)

If only 50% of rapes are random, there were 140k rapes reported in 2005 in the US; that's 70k of your 1.4 mill violent crimes that were definitely not random events, and the number is definitely higher than 50%.

You also have to remove all domestic violence from your number, as those are definitely NOT random. In 2004, there were more than 600k reported nonfatal domestic violence cases (fatal cases are only a few thousand). That's nearly half of your sample! You didn't even take any of this into account, making your post completely disingenuous.

Yes, robbery is one type, murder another, and rape still another. There is also assault to consider. However, you'll notice that I did include all of that (except for assault). Therefore I didn't base my estimates on one thing, but almost all things.

Some of your sources include studies about the UK, percentages with no source citation, and a charity seeking to convince people to give money. Thanks, but I'll stick with sources of academic research or government agency data.

Already accounted for...those figures are BJS/FBI statistics covering all incidents within the United States (since that's what we're talking about). According to BJS only 1 in 10 violent victimizations were family oriented, making your statement a statistical impossibility.

Thanks for playing though.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: Eeezee
You caught me in the middle of an edit, actually. The point is that he needs to learn how to read :roll:

The burden of proof is not on my shoulders anyway. He's trying to convince me that carrying a gun is MUCH more likely to save you in a dangerous situation, and that this probability is 300x greater than the chance of accidental gun-related injury. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

So yeah, go DIAF thepd7

I'm showing you that you don't have a clue, and that's all. I've never stated anywhere that carrying a weapon is more likely to save you. I've proven, without question, that based on all available research supported data you are wrong (about how often stuff happens, etc).

 

[MedicBob]

Can we have a poll please? Include the swordfish too.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I don't have a license for concealed carry, but would like to get one soon.

In the meantime, I'm thinking a knife, or pepper spray? Any other recommendations? I don't want someting too bulky, but it needs to be effective (and hopefully not deadly if turned against me)

hmmmm, get one of those guns that need biometrics. Just hope the perp doesn't use your own hand to shoot it.

Didn't know being a valet was so deadly today.

 

[oddyager]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Something to block out the stench from your vagina...you really that scared of the city?

:thumbsup:

 

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: Eeezee
You caught me in the middle of an edit, actually. The point is that he needs to learn how to read :roll:

The burden of proof is not on my shoulders anyway. He's trying to convince me that carrying a gun is MUCH more likely to save you in a dangerous situation, and that this probability is 300x greater than the chance of accidental gun-related injury. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

So yeah, go DIAF thepd7

You had a really great post at one point you just mentioned something you had no clue about. In fact it took me a while to find it because you edited it out:

"It happens about as often as assault/rape/mugging/etc."

So you need to either admit you were wrong or the burden of proof is on YOU.

It's really ridiculous how an intelligent person is quickly transformed into a ball of insult hurling rage when you point out how they are wrong.

 

[IEC]

Carsomyr +5, duh.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: Eeezee
You caught me in the middle of an edit, actually. The point is that he needs to learn how to read :roll:

The burden of proof is not on my shoulders anyway. He's trying to convince me that carrying a gun is MUCH more likely to save you in a dangerous situation, and that this probability is 300x greater than the chance of accidental gun-related injury. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

So yeah, go DIAF thepd7

You had a really great post at one point you just mentioned something you had no clue about. In fact it took me a while to find it because you edited it out:

"It happens about as often as assault/rape/mugging/etc."

So you need to either admit you were wrong or the burden of proof is on YOU.

It's really ridiculous how an intelligent person is quickly transformed into a ball of insult hurling rage when you point out how they are wrong.

I did admit that I was wrong. This is what happens when you skip over posts :roll:

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Not even REMOTELY true. There are only about 930 accidental deaths a year, and of course a slightly greater number of accidents that don't result in death (mortality from gunshot accidents is unfortunately very high). Let's call it a maximum of 5000 firearm accidents a year (to include those that go unreported, etc).

Meanwhile, there were 1,400,000 violent crimes in 2006. So you are about 300 times more likely to be a victim of crime than to be the victim of a firearm accident.

Perhaps, but how many of those 1.4 million violent crimes are actually random events? I may not be reporting any numbers at all, but at least I'm not reporting misleading ones! Also, consider how many violent crimes are completely unpreventable even with a gun. If a man has a gun to your head, you're fucked and the gun in your holster isn't going to change that.

Over 80% of rape victims know their attackers, for instance. Many violent crimes are not random chance events like what we're considering. I'm not aware of how many random violent crimes occur, but I'm sure it's pretty comparable to number of firearm accidents

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

In fact, in only 24% of all violent crimes is any weapon present. That means if you carry a gun you're going to be better armed than your attacker three-quarters of the time. Doesn't mean you can get it into play necessarily, but it does mean in the VAST majority of violent crimes you won't face a firearm.

74% of males robbed were robbed by a stranger, while 48% of females were.

57% of murders were committed by a stranger.

So we can roughly estimate that at least 700,000 violent crimes every year are committed at random/by a stranger, and that only 175,000 of them are armed (with even fewer being armed with a firearm). 900 accidents, 175,000 unarmed attacks by a total stranger. In other words, you're completely and totally wrong.

This is why people who don't study things seriously shouldn't form any sort of opinion about them...you simply don't have a damned clue what you're talking about.

edit: oh yeah, and btw about rape/sexual assault, against females it's actually 64% people they know, but for males it's 46% people they know. Yes, it's a higher percentage of intimates, but still a very large number of strangers.

You've completely missed the point. Robbery is only one type of violent crime. I think you require better reading comprehension.

This is why morons shouldn't form any sort of opinion... you simply don't have a damn clue what you're trying to argue about :roll:

Stating that 57% of murders were committed by a stranger and using that alone to claim that 50% of all violent crimes are random is idiocy.

edit: Clearly the numbers on rape vary considerably. Here are numerous conflicting sources, the percent I've included is the percentage of victims who knew their assailant
http://wellness.uwsp.edu/medin...teAcquaintanceRape.pdf (90%)
http://www.wcstx.com/friendrp.htm (80%)
http://www.cer.truthaboutrape.co.uk/3.html (97%)
http://www.rainn.org/statistics (73%)

If only 50% of rapes are random, there were 140k rapes reported in 2005 in the US; that's 70k of your 1.4 mill violent crimes that were definitely not random events, and the number is definitely higher than 50%.

You also have to remove all domestic violence from your number, as those are definitely NOT random. In 2004, there were more than 600k reported nonfatal domestic violence cases (fatal cases are only a few thousand). That's nearly half of your sample! You didn't even take any of this into account, making your post completely disingenuous.

Yes, robbery is one type, murder another, and rape still another. There is also assault to consider. However, you'll notice that I did include all of that (except for assault). Therefore I didn't base my estimates on one thing, but almost all things.

Some of your sources include studies about the UK, percentages with no source citation, and a charity seeking to convince people to give money. Thanks, but I'll stick with sources of academic research or government agency data.

Already accounted for...those figures are BJS/FBI statistics covering all incidents within the United States (since that's what we're talking about). According to BJS only 1 in 10 violent victimizations were family oriented, making your statement a statistical impossibility.

Thanks for playing though.

Actually, you only gave a statistic for robbery and a statistic for murder. You then made a conclusion on all violent crimes. I've pointed out that rape has significantly lower rates of random occurrence than you'd like us to believe.

Also, I just plucked random statistics off of google to give you an idea of how many conflicting reports exist. Could you provide the academic research or government agency data that you got your numbers from?

Going by our numbers, that's around 650k non-random domestic assaults, 110k non-random rapes, and nearly 400k non-random muggings and murders. I don't have a number for non-domestic assault, but it's certainly non-zero.

That's around 1.2 million of your 1.4 million violent crimes! 700k is an underestimate

I already state that perhaps you're more likely to be involved in a random violent crime than a random gun accident, but they're only different by perhaps a single order of magnitude. That's almost no difference at all.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: Eeezee
You caught me in the middle of an edit, actually. The point is that he needs to learn how to read :roll:

The burden of proof is not on my shoulders anyway. He's trying to convince me that carrying a gun is MUCH more likely to save you in a dangerous situation, and that this probability is 300x greater than the chance of accidental gun-related injury. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

So yeah, go DIAF thepd7

You had a really great post at one point you just mentioned something you had no clue about. In fact it took me a while to find it because you edited it out:

"It happens about as often as assault/rape/mugging/etc."

So you need to either admit you were wrong or the burden of proof is on YOU.

It's really ridiculous how an intelligent person is quickly transformed into a ball of insult hurling rage when you point out how they are wrong.

When someone acts like an asshole towards me, I tend to react in kind. Do you not do the same? In any case, you're being an asshole now. Go DIAF

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Not even REMOTELY true. There are only about 930 accidental deaths a year, and of course a slightly greater number of accidents that don't result in death (mortality from gunshot accidents is unfortunately very high). Let's call it a maximum of 5000 firearm accidents a year (to include those that go unreported, etc).

Meanwhile, there were 1,400,000 violent crimes in 2006. So you are about 300 times more likely to be a victim of crime than to be the victim of a firearm accident.

Perhaps, but how many of those 1.4 million violent crimes are actually random events? I may not be reporting any numbers at all, but at least I'm not reporting misleading ones! Also, consider how many violent crimes are completely unpreventable even with a gun. If a man has a gun to your head, you're fucked and the gun in your holster isn't going to change that.

Over 80% of rape victims know their attackers, for instance. Many violent crimes are not random chance events like what we're considering. I'm not aware of how many random violent crimes occur, but I'm sure it's pretty comparable to number of firearm accidents

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

In fact, in only 24% of all violent crimes is any weapon present. That means if you carry a gun you're going to be better armed than your attacker three-quarters of the time. Doesn't mean you can get it into play necessarily, but it does mean in the VAST majority of violent crimes you won't face a firearm.

74% of males robbed were robbed by a stranger, while 48% of females were.

57% of murders were committed by a stranger.

So we can roughly estimate that at least 700,000 violent crimes every year are committed at random/by a stranger, and that only 175,000 of them are armed (with even fewer being armed with a firearm). 900 accidents, 175,000 unarmed attacks by a total stranger. In other words, you're completely and totally wrong.

This is why people who don't study things seriously shouldn't form any sort of opinion about them...you simply don't have a damned clue what you're talking about.

edit: oh yeah, and btw about rape/sexual assault, against females it's actually 64% people they know, but for males it's 46% people they know. Yes, it's a higher percentage of intimates, but still a very large number of strangers.

You've completely missed the point. Robbery is only one type of violent crime. I think you require better reading comprehension.

This is why morons shouldn't form any sort of opinion... you simply don't have a damn clue what you're trying to argue about :roll:

Stating that 57% of murders were committed by a stranger and using that alone to claim that 50% of all violent crimes are random is idiocy.

edit: Clearly the numbers on rape vary considerably. Here are numerous conflicting sources, the percent I've included is the percentage of victims who knew their assailant
http://wellness.uwsp.edu/medin...teAcquaintanceRape.pdf (90%)
http://www.wcstx.com/friendrp.htm (80%)
http://www.cer.truthaboutrape.co.uk/3.html (97%)
http://www.rainn.org/statistics (73%)

If only 50% of rapes are random, there were 140k rapes reported in 2005 in the US; that's 70k of your 1.4 mill violent crimes that were definitely not random events, and the number is definitely higher than 50%.

You also have to remove all domestic violence from your number, as those are definitely NOT random. In 2004, there were more than 600k reported nonfatal domestic violence cases (fatal cases are only a few thousand). That's nearly half of your sample! You didn't even take any of this into account, making your post completely disingenuous.

Yes, robbery is one type, murder another, and rape still another. There is also assault to consider. However, you'll notice that I did include all of that (except for assault). Therefore I didn't base my estimates on one thing, but almost all things.

Some of your sources include studies about the UK, percentages with no source citation, and a charity seeking to convince people to give money. Thanks, but I'll stick with sources of academic research or government agency data.

Already accounted for...those figures are BJS/FBI statistics covering all incidents within the United States (since that's what we're talking about). According to BJS only 1 in 10 violent victimizations were family oriented, making your statement a statistical impossibility.

Thanks for playing though.

Actually, you only gave a statistic for robbery and a statistic for murder. You then made a conclusion on all violent crimes. I've pointed out that rape has significantly lower rates of random occurrence than you'd like us to believe.

Also, I just plucked random statistics off of google to give you an idea of how many conflicting reports exist. Could you provide the academic research or government agency data that you got your numbers from?

Going by our numbers, that's around 650k non-random domestic assaults, 110k non-random rapes, and nearly 400k non-random muggings and murders. I don't have a number for non-domestic assault, but it's certainly non-zero.

That's around 1.2 million of your 1.4 million violent crimes! 700k is an underestimate

I already state that perhaps you're more likely to be involved in a random violent crime than a random gun accident, but they're only different by perhaps a single order of magnitude. That's almost no difference at all.

But as I've already said, all credible sources (cdc, bjs, fbi) don't agree with your numbers at all. I've given the statistics from those sources, and a simple scan of those sites will show you that I accurately represented them. If you have database access you can also do a jstor or other credible journal search and you'll find academic research instead of agency research. I did a very brief check to see if the two areas seemed to be at odds, but saw nothing immediately glaring.

Conflicting reports are only impacting if they're from equally credible sources looking at the same information. As I've already said it doesn't matter for this discussion what happens in the UK, and neither of the other sites list any credible sources for their statistics (on top of one of them begging donations and therefore having a vested interest in making things bad). Show me a US law enforcement agency (or other equally involved agency) examining national trends that disagrees with the numbers I have posted.

edit: I just saw that you were right, I only listed robbery and murder...I really thought I'd put the rape stuff on their too, which would have account for most of the types of violent crime tracked by law enforcement. Apologies for that one.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
A rusty pocket knife may do the trick. not an utility knife with a bunch of other stuff on it (too finicky to take out fast) but just a simple fold in knife. Apply poison to it every now and then. Not sure what though, rat poison maybe? The rust is a key as well, it can induce lock jaw to your attacker, and who knows what the poison will do...

Though best bet is probably knowing some form of martial arts, and also forms against martial arts, such as gugitsu(sp?). Keep in mind people usually gank so if you can run fast, its probably better then any form of self defense, unless they have a gun, which, if in the states, they most likely will.

&

Originally posted by: ranmaniac
When travelling through the ravages of Stranglethorn Vale, I keep detect lesser invisibility activated, and use soulstones so I don't have to run all the way from the graveyard to my corpse.

Gave me a good laugh .

And I'll give you a flawless suggestion. Run everywhere. Nobody is going to try to mug someone who sprints everywhere.

 

[Boo Boo]

i'm guessing you'll be looking to start trouble.

might be better if you just wore a vest

 

[SirStev0]

bring a needle and put a label with the words "AIDS" on it... point it at people.

 

[thepd7]

It happens about as often as assault/rape/mugging/etc.

Originally posted by: Eeezee

I did admit that I was wrong. This is what happens when you skip over posts :roll:

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Actually, you only gave a statistic for robbery and a statistic for murder. You then made a conclusion on all violent crimes. I've pointed out that rape has significantly lower rates of random occurrence than you'd like us to believe.

Also, I just plucked random statistics off of google to give you an idea of how many conflicting reports exist. Could you provide the academic research or government agency data that you got your numbers from?

Going by our numbers, that's around 650k non-random domestic assaults, 110k non-random rapes, and nearly 400k non-random muggings and murders. I don't have a number for non-domestic assault, but it's certainly non-zero.

That's around 1.2 million of your 1.4 million violent crimes! 700k is an underestimate

I already state that perhaps you're more likely to be involved in a random violent crime than a random gun accident, but they're only different by perhaps a single order of magnitude. That's almost no difference at all.

You don't seem very convined you were wrong.

So let's confirm, you are or are not saying that there are more random acts of violence than gunshot accidents.

Also, I am wondering: 10x the number is "almost no difference at all"? So if someone offered you 10x the salary it would be just a blip on your day? If murders suddenly rose by tenfold that's no big deal?

I would also like to point out in your original statement you never said "random" although we can give you the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Originally posted by: Eeezee

When someone acts like an asshole towards me, I tend to react in kind. Do you not do the same? In any case, you're being an asshole now. Go DIAF

I'm not being an asshole.

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
A rusty pocket knife may do the trick. not an utility knife with a bunch of other stuff on it (too finicky to take out fast) but just a simple fold in knife. Apply poison to it every now and then. Not sure what though, rat poison maybe? The rust is a key as well, it can induce lock jaw to your attacker, and who knows what the poison will do...

Though best bet is probably knowing some form of martial arts, and also forms against martial arts, such as gugitsu(sp?). Keep in mind people usually gank so if you can run fast, its probably better then any form of self defense, unless they have a gun, which, if in the states, they most likely will.

&

Originally posted by: ranmaniac
When travelling through the ravages of Stranglethorn Vale, I keep detect lesser invisibility activated, and use soulstones so I don't have to run all the way from the graveyard to my corpse.

Gave me a good laugh .

And I'll give you a flawless suggestion. Run everywhere. Nobody is going to try to mug someone who sprints everywhere.

Instant vision of Forrest Gump!
" run Forrest RUN!"

 

[Feneant2]

Best weapons are your fist and your feet. Take some martial arts (Where they teach you the point is to NOT pick fights, not those retarded MMA schools that teach you to be a street brawler) and do some running to stay in shape. Then you can run if you have to and fight if you can't run.

 

[DVad3r]

Carry a huge giant battery on your back with cables attached to metal glove fingers. When in danger you shock the fuck out of the person just like that shocker guy in the running man.

 

[zinfamous]

RPG

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Deeko
Something to block out the stench from your vagina...you really that scared of the city?

Troof

OP, you seriously need to relax. If stats are your thing, you should look them up for violent crumes committed per capita. You're not in danger!

Spoken like a true blue.
Just because you're chances of being attacked are low does not mean they are 0. Why do you have home owners insurance or automobile insurance or health insurance?

Shit do you look both way before crossing the street even if you can't hear traffic? Your kind of thinking is what gets people killed.

That's dumb. Do you know how many times a city dweller hits the streets? A whole lot. I'm not carrying a gun around with me everywhere I go for the EXTREMELY unlikely chance I get mugged. Most murders in the city are drug or gang related, not a result of being mugged or something that you have a gun on you on the streets is going to help.

Plus, this isn't the movies. If a guy steps out of the shadows and puts a gun to your head, chances are you're gonna wind up dead if you try to pull your gun on him.

Throw that "true blue" crap out, I'm not anti gun, I'm just saying that having a gun on you while you walk the city streets is not going to raise your life expectancy.

You're full of shit if you think being prepared and ready to protect yourself is a waste of time. By your description of things you have never been to a truly bad part of town. Go take a stroll down MLK Blvd or Malcolm X Blvd in South Dallas. If you look like your avatar you're going to get:
A. Robbed
B. Your ass beat down
C. Killed.

Where I work now employees a large number of people for the not so nice areas of Dallas and they wonder why the # of cars getting broken into or stolen has sky rocketed and why the general crime rate of the area went up.
Dallas that even the beat cops won't go unless SWAT is with them.


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ONLY REPUBLICANS WILL PROTECT YOU! ONLY REPUBLICANS WILL PROTECT YOU! ONLY REPUBLICANS WILL PROTECT YOU! ONLY REPUBLICANS WILL PROTECT YOU! ONLY REPUBLICANS WILL PROTECT YOU! ONLY REPUBLICANS WILL PROTECT YOU! ONLY REPUBLICANS WILL PROTECT YOU! ONLY REPUBLICANS WILL PROTECT YOU!

FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

I would carry:

6 inch knife
machete
katana
mace
taser
air taser
desert eagle .50 cal
ar-15
and some bullet proof vests

This is just the "walk around in good neighborhoods" gear. For the bad ones I just go borrow an M1 main battle tank.

 

[aldamon]

I always strap a mini-gun on my dog.

 

[Genx87]

UZI is small and can lay the smack down on any would be gang member or his entire posse.

Plus it is the Chuck Norris weapon of choice

+10 to killing badguys.