Best way to prevent spam mail on new email address ?

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1. Educate friends and family to not fall for stuff that will infect their computers.
2. Don't use it to register on any site, use a separate spam address for that instead.
3. Do not use your real name in the address, use a nonsense word or two words. If you for example would have die_spammers@gmail.com and you receive an email with 'Hi Mr. Spammers' or 'Dear Die' you know it's spam. And since some spammers put names in the subject you can simply filter out all mails that contain either of those words in the subject.
 
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ImpulsE69

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I don't think it is even possible is it? Even the hoster is going to sell your email to someone even if they say they don't.

I know this sounds crazy, but I've used yahoo for my non serious email and they filter out 95% of the spam on their own pretty well.
 
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Carson Dyle

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Don't use it. EVER.

What I do is have a registered domain name and use an inexpensive hosted web site with email and unlimited email forwarders. I never use the actual mailbox name for anything. When I register for something, like a forum or an online shopping account, I use a unique forwarder that I also record in a small spreadsheet. If that address ever starts getting spam, I know who leaked it. I delete the forwarder and never bother with that site again.

There are free services that offer the same thing - unlimited addresses with forwarding:

https://www.33mail.com/
 

Carson Dyle

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Why? That's like saying using a unique password for every login is over the top. It's not.

If I get a single spam email to bob47@mydomain.com, I look up who the hell it was who sold/leaked the address and they go on my permanent shitlist. I delete the forwarder in the domain management interface of cPanel and mark it as deceased in the spreadsheet. And I never get another spam message to that address again.
 

BarkingGhostar

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Over the top ... I use unique email addresses for everything and everyone. If someone spawns Spam I kill that mailbox and either create a new one for that contact or just kill that relationship.
 

Viper GTS

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Over the top ... I use unique email addresses for everything and everyone. If someone spawns Spam I kill that mailbox and either create a new one for that contact or just kill that relationship.

Pretty much this. I've been using leemail.me for quite a few years now for essentially everything but banking and government interaction. Every site gets a unique email address. The really shady stuff gets one that does not contain my leemail user ID.

https://leemail.me/

Absolutely worth the $12/year.

Viper GTS
 
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ImpulsE69

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That's insane...really. For normal use that is way over the top. 2 emails is all you really need. One for crap that will get you spam, and one for everything else. I get it if it's something 'top secret', but for everyday use, way too much hassle.
 

Carson Dyle

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It's no hassle at all.

I create all the forwarders at once. Using cPanel I can import a CSV or Excel spreadsheet with all of them. Typically I create numbered addresses from 00 to 99, and can create hundreds in a matter of seconds.

bob00 -> nobody@mydomain.com
bob01 -> nobody@mydomain.com
...
bob99 -> nobody@mydomain.com
sam00 -> nobody@mydomain.com
sam01 -> nobody@mydomain.com
...
sam99 -> nobody@mydomain.com

They forward to _one_ mailbox, so I never have to fiddle with my email client or worry about changing addresses. If I'm at a computer where I can easily edit the spreadsheet, I'll grab the next in the series and record it. If I can't do that immediately, I pick one out of thin air that isn't likely to be used already.
 

ImpulsE69

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I can't say that has ever been necessary, but I suppose use case matters. My main email I've had since 1995. The other since 2001 or so.
 

pcslookout

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Pretty much this. I've been using leemail.me for quite a few years now for essentially everything but banking and government interaction. Every site gets a unique email address. The really shady stuff gets one that does not contain my leemail user ID.

https://leemail.me/

Absolutely worth the $12/year.

Viper GTS

Looks interesting thanks! Hopefully there is a free version too if not I don't mind $12 a year.
 

pcslookout

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Hmm leemail.me doesn't seem send a confirmation email to me. Weird. Oh well. I will wait up to 10 mins then see if there is something I can do.
 

Carson Dyle

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You'll probably need to help them out, in any case, if they're to be dealing with multiple email forwarders, or multiple email accounts. Instead of unique addresses for each site, a compromise for someone less technically apt would be to create just a few forwarders. You might need to help them set up the forwarding, but their email client configuration should never change.

One forwarder for anything they think might be the least bit suspect, like small mail-order sites. ("Buy two knives and get this lemon squeezer for free!") One for major online shopping like Amazon, Macy's, eBay. And one for financial services like their bank and brokerage. If they start getting too much spam on one and they need help, assist them in going to all the different sites and updating their email address. If it's the sketchy one, just delete the address and don't even bother updating it anywhere.
 
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You'll probably need to help them out, in any case, if they're to be dealing with multiple email forwarders, or multiple email accounts. Instead of unique addresses for each site, a compromise for someone less technically apt would be to create just a few forwarders. You might need to help them set up the forwarding, but their email client configuration should never change.

One forwarder for anything they think might be the least bit suspect, like small mail-order sites. ("Buy two knives and get this lemon squeezer for free!") One for major online shopping like Amazon, Macy's, eBay. And one for financial services like their bank and brokerage. If they start getting too much spam on one and they need help, assist them in going to all the different sites and updating their email address. If it's the sketchy one, just delete the address and don't even bother updating it anywhere.

Good idea! Thanks!
 

WilliamM2

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I don't think it is even possible is it? Even the hoster is going to sell your email to someone even if they say they don't.

I know this sounds crazy, but I've used yahoo for my non serious email and they filter out 95% of the spam on their own pretty well.

Quite possible. I have had the same Charter email address for 18 years. Never have received any spam on that account. I use it for any site I pay bills, or sites like Amazon, Newegg, etc.

Anything else (like forums) gets a yahoo address. It gets 100's of spam a day.
 

Red Squirrel

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The minute you use it for anything online it will get sold to 3rd parties.

If this is an address that has a single purpose, like say, receiving alerts from servers or something, then just make it super complicated, and don't give it to anyone and don't use it for anything. I have a couple emails like that where it's just a string of like 30 random characters. My alarming system sends alerts to it, but other than that I don't use the email for anything else. Had it for years and don't get a single spam email on it. I actually have it setup to completely bypass my spam filter server. Come to think of it I'm surprised it has not been sold off by Google, because it is configured in my phone.

The worse is the stuff Facebook and Google etc do. When your friends create a contact of you on their device, they will sell their (YOUR) information via that way. So without even realizing it, your friends are helping those companies sell your info by simply entering a contact in their phone. This is how they know your real phone number and other information even if you never gave it to them.
 

ultimatebob

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People are inherently stupid and/or lazy when it comes to security. If you give your e-mail address to basically anyone without IT security training, they are eventually going to get hacked and get your e-mail address along with everyone else's in their address book. Even then, their IT provider will probably get hacked at some point and they'll get your address that way. The IT provider hacks are even worse, since those lists usually get sold on the Darkweb to scammers and spammers.

The only way you stand a chance is if you give different disposable e-mail addresses to everyone, and those are just forwarding to your "real" e-mail address which you give to NOBODY. That way, when Uncle Lou takes a "personality quiz" on Facebook and leaks his entire contact list to somebody in Romania, you can easily block that relay address.