Best way to power 2 bookshelf speakers

alfa147x

Lifer
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Best way to power 2 bookshelf speakers

Polk Monitor 40 or TSi200

what is the a decent price range?

Thanks,
Alfa
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YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Is this the start of a surround sound system, or just a dedicated 2 channel system?

You could go as cheap as a little t-amp or you could spend a LOT on something much nicer.

It's kind of up to you how much you want to spend, but it is going to be a good idea to balance spending of your components.

To give yourself future flexibility, you might just want to get a surround sound receiver to do the job (as opposed to a 2 channel integrated amp).
 

alfa147x

Lifer
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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Is this the start of a surround sound system, or just a dedicated 2 channel system?

You could go as cheap as a little t-amp or you could spend a LOT on something much nicer.

It's kind of up to you how much you want to spend, but it is going to be a good idea to balance spending of your components.

To give yourself future flexibility, you might just want to get a surround sound receiver to do the job (as opposed to a 2 channel integrated amp).

This is a dedicated 2 channel system, it going in a dorm room next august :)
I'm also trying to decide if i should take my dads r50's instead of buying bookshelf speakers
At all costs I would not want to buy a subwoofer so i dont know (not really big into bass)

also i would like to spend about $150 on the speakers and less then $100 on the amp
I can see me AFTER college going for a 5.1 system, it's way too early to plan that out

Thanks
 

Tiamat

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You can go the route which you have planed so far (R50 + inexpensive amp) or you could also buy your own powered studio monitors. Companies like maudio, yamaha, JBL have offerings below 200$ per pair and they have their own built-in amplifiers. Your local guitarcenter should have some in stock, or you can look at websites like sweetwater.com
 

alfa147x

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Tiamat
You can go the route which you have planed so far (R50 + inexpensive amp) or you could also buy your own powered studio monitors. Companies like maudio, yamaha, JBL have offerings below 200$ per pair and they have their own built-in amplifiers. Your local guitarcenter should have some in stock, or you can look at websites like sweetwater.com

thanks for the help, but iv never been a fan of all in 1 things


 

Tiamat

Lifer
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Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: Tiamat
You can go the route which you have planed so far (R50 + inexpensive amp) or you could also buy your own powered studio monitors. Companies like maudio, yamaha, JBL have offerings below 200$ per pair and they have their own built-in amplifiers. Your local guitarcenter should have some in stock, or you can look at websites like sweetwater.com

thanks for the help, but iv never been a fan of all in 1 things

I'm sorry to hear that! Many, if not most, audio engineers are a fan of these professional studio monitors and depend on them for their accurate audio reproduction. The engineers fit these speakers with crossovers and amplification for each driver appropriate for the intended operation.
 

EvilYoda

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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: Tiamat
You can go the route which you have planed so far (R50 + inexpensive amp) or you could also buy your own powered studio monitors. Companies like maudio, yamaha, JBL have offerings below 200$ per pair and they have their own built-in amplifiers. Your local guitarcenter should have some in stock, or you can look at websites like sweetwater.com

thanks for the help, but iv never been a fan of all in 1 things

I'm sorry to hear that! Many, if not most, audio engineers are a fan of these professional studio monitors and depend on them for their accurate audio reproduction. The engineers fit these speakers with crossovers and amplification for each driver appropriate for the intended operation.

Yeah, I was going to mention the exact same thing...but I wans't going to be so nice about it. Thanks Tiamat :p
 

alfa147x

Lifer
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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: Tiamat
You can go the route which you have planed so far (R50 + inexpensive amp) or you could also buy your own powered studio monitors. Companies like maudio, yamaha, JBL have offerings below 200$ per pair and they have their own built-in amplifiers. Your local guitarcenter should have some in stock, or you can look at websites like sweetwater.com

thanks for the help, but iv never been a fan of all in 1 things

I'm sorry to hear that! Many, if not most, audio engineers are a fan of these professional studio monitors and depend on them for their accurate audio reproduction. The engineers fit these speakers with crossovers and amplification for each driver appropriate for the intended operation.

Yeah, I was going to mention the exact same thing...but I wans't going to be so nice about it. Thanks Tiamat :p

the thing is, i already have the speakers
 

Tiamat

Lifer
Nov 25, 2003
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Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: Tiamat
You can go the route which you have planed so far (R50 + inexpensive amp) or you could also buy your own powered studio monitors. Companies like maudio, yamaha, JBL have offerings below 200$ per pair and they have their own built-in amplifiers. Your local guitarcenter should have some in stock, or you can look at websites like sweetwater.com

thanks for the help, but iv never been a fan of all in 1 things

I'm sorry to hear that! Many, if not most, audio engineers are a fan of these professional studio monitors and depend on them for their accurate audio reproduction. The engineers fit these speakers with crossovers and amplification for each driver appropriate for the intended operation.

Yeah, I was going to mention the exact same thing...but I wans't going to be so nice about it. Thanks Tiamat :p

the thing is, i already have the speakers

I was going off of this:

"I'm also trying to decide if i should take my dads r50's instead of buying bookshelf speakers...

...also i would like to spend about $150 on the speakers and less then $100 on the amp"

Rather than forcing your hand in the decision, i was merely giving you the best alternative that exists so that you can know that you made a good decision. I figured narrowing down your generic "speakers and amp" into only a small handful of choices would make your decision process much easier.

It's up to you which path you want to take. I think it is evident which path I would take if I were in your position. I know there is some assurance of quality with studio monitors. I understand there are some sound quality compromises in the sonic impact T-amps that I, personally, wouldn't be able to live with.

Now, if you took the R50 and paired it with a stereo integrated amp from the likes of NAD BEE or Cambridge Audio Azur 540Av2 (300$) then, I could offer some additional advice, however this is beyond your stated budget. You may be able to find a stereo receiver between $100-$200, but I have no experience with them and do not have any assurances to their sound quality and feature set.

 

alfa147x

Lifer
Jul 14, 2005
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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: Tiamat
You can go the route which you have planed so far (R50 + inexpensive amp) or you could also buy your own powered studio monitors. Companies like maudio, yamaha, JBL have offerings below 200$ per pair and they have their own built-in amplifiers. Your local guitarcenter should have some in stock, or you can look at websites like sweetwater.com

thanks for the help, but iv never been a fan of all in 1 things

I'm sorry to hear that! Many, if not most, audio engineers are a fan of these professional studio monitors and depend on them for their accurate audio reproduction. The engineers fit these speakers with crossovers and amplification for each driver appropriate for the intended operation.

Yeah, I was going to mention the exact same thing...but I wans't going to be so nice about it. Thanks Tiamat :p

the thing is, i already have the speakers

I was going off of this:

"I'm also trying to decide if i should take my dads r50's instead of buying bookshelf speakers...

...also i would like to spend about $150 on the speakers and less then $100 on the amp"

Rather than forcing your hand in the decision, i was merely giving you the best alternative that exists so that you can know that you made a good decision. I figured narrowing down your generic "speakers and amp" into only a small handful of choices would make your decision process much easier.

It's up to you which path you want to take. I think it is evident which path I would take if I were in your position. I know there is some assurance of quality with studio monitors. I understand there are some sound quality compromises in the sonic impact T-amps that I, personally, wouldn't be able to live with.

Now, if you took the R50 and paired it with a stereo integrated amp from the likes of NAD BEE or Cambridge Audio Azur 540Av2 (300$) then, I could offer some additional advice, however this is beyond your stated budget. You may be able to find a stereo receiver between $100-$200, but I have no experience with them and do not have any assurances to their sound quality and feature set.

Yeah sorry i didnt clarify my dad's giving me those for my birthday so ill stick with those

And i think ill be able to spend 150$ on an amp but yeah $300 way too far

thanks for the help though :)
 

Tiamat

Lifer
Nov 25, 2003
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Originally posted by: alfa147x

Yeah sorry i didnt clarify my dad's giving me those for my birthday so ill stick with those

And i think ill be able to spend 150$ on an amp but yeah $300 way too far

thanks for the help though :)

I don't know much about them, but you may want to look into the Onkyo TX-8255 to see if it has any good reviews. It is 160$ shipped from Vanns.com and has a dock for iPod, and also should have enough inputs for whatever game systems (incl. computer) that you may have.

The problem with this budget range is that there isn't much "future-proofing". If you want a subwoofer later on, they do not have adequate bass management. If you need more power (due to moving to a much larger living arrangement for example), you cannot just buy an external amp due to lack of pre-outs, you'd have to do a complete replacement. At <$200, it could be considered as "throw-away money" to some people especially if it lasts several years prior to your next major upgrade.

If your need for up-to-date processing (e.g. dolby, surround sound, room eq) is non-existant, you probably can find some solutions in this price range. I think Onkyo has entry-level surround sound receivers around 200$ that may incorporate some bass management. For this, you might want to look into the Onkyo TX-SR304.

Of course, there are many offerings other than Onkyo (like Harmon kardon, Sony, etc.) so keep that in mind.

 

alfa147x

Lifer
Jul 14, 2005
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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: alfa147x

Yeah sorry i didnt clarify my dad's giving me those for my birthday so ill stick with those

And i think ill be able to spend 150$ on an amp but yeah $300 way too far

thanks for the help though :)

I don't know much about them, but you may want to look into the Onkyo TX-8255 to see if it has any good reviews. It is 160$ shipped from Vanns.com and has a dock for iPod, and also should have enough inputs for whatever game systems (incl. computer) that you may have.

The problem with this budget range is that there isn't much "future-proofing". If you want a subwoofer later on, they do not have adequate bass management. If you need more power (due to moving to a much larger living arrangement for example), you cannot just buy an external amp due to lack of pre-outs, you'd have to do a complete replacement. At <$200, it could be considered as "throw-away money" to some people especially if it lasts several years prior to your next major upgrade.

If your need for up-to-date processing (e.g. dolby, surround sound, room eq) is non-existant, you probably can find some solutions in this price range. I think Onkyo has entry-level surround sound receivers around 200$ that may incorporate some bass management. For this, you might want to look into the Onkyo TX-SR304.

Of course, there are many offerings other than Onkyo (like Harmon kardon, Sony, etc.) so keep that in mind.

Im not really looking to future-proofing this setup, because I would never really need more then 2 speakers for a computer

I do have a yamaha subwoofer that will take the high level inputs that i totally forgot
I could get the Onkyo TX-SR506S for $119

Do i need processing for a 2.1 system ?
 

Tiamat

Lifer
Nov 25, 2003
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Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: alfa147x

Yeah sorry i didnt clarify my dad's giving me those for my birthday so ill stick with those

And i think ill be able to spend 150$ on an amp but yeah $300 way too far

thanks for the help though :)

I don't know much about them, but you may want to look into the Onkyo TX-8255 to see if it has any good reviews. It is 160$ shipped from Vanns.com and has a dock for iPod, and also should have enough inputs for whatever game systems (incl. computer) that you may have.

The problem with this budget range is that there isn't much "future-proofing". If you want a subwoofer later on, they do not have adequate bass management. If you need more power (due to moving to a much larger living arrangement for example), you cannot just buy an external amp due to lack of pre-outs, you'd have to do a complete replacement. At <$200, it could be considered as "throw-away money" to some people especially if it lasts several years prior to your next major upgrade.

If your need for up-to-date processing (e.g. dolby, surround sound, room eq) is non-existant, you probably can find some solutions in this price range. I think Onkyo has entry-level surround sound receivers around 200$ that may incorporate some bass management. For this, you might want to look into the Onkyo TX-SR304.

Of course, there are many offerings other than Onkyo (like Harmon kardon, Sony, etc.) so keep that in mind.

Im not really looking to future-proofing this setup, because I would never really need more then 2 speakers for a computer

I do have a yamaha subwoofer that will take the high level inputs that i totally forgot
I could get the Onkyo TX-SR506S for $119

Do i need processing for a 2.1 system ?

You want bass management. The subwoofer's high level inputs are only good as a last ditch effort. They are not optimized for any sort of good results. It is best to take care of the bass management in the receiver. Set the crossover in the subwoofer to "Off/bypass or maximum" and set the receivers to 80hz for starters.

By using bass management, you can decrease the distortion in the speakers since the bass would be moved to the subwoofer and the speaker does not have to work nearly as hard. Also, the amplifier doesn't have to work nearly as hard either. A Win-Win situation.
 

alfa147x

Lifer
Jul 14, 2005
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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: alfa147x

Yeah sorry i didnt clarify my dad's giving me those for my birthday so ill stick with those

And i think ill be able to spend 150$ on an amp but yeah $300 way too far

thanks for the help though :)

I don't know much about them, but you may want to look into the Onkyo TX-8255 to see if it has any good reviews. It is 160$ shipped from Vanns.com and has a dock for iPod, and also should have enough inputs for whatever game systems (incl. computer) that you may have.

The problem with this budget range is that there isn't much "future-proofing". If you want a subwoofer later on, they do not have adequate bass management. If you need more power (due to moving to a much larger living arrangement for example), you cannot just buy an external amp due to lack of pre-outs, you'd have to do a complete replacement. At <$200, it could be considered as "throw-away money" to some people especially if it lasts several years prior to your next major upgrade.

If your need for up-to-date processing (e.g. dolby, surround sound, room eq) is non-existant, you probably can find some solutions in this price range. I think Onkyo has entry-level surround sound receivers around 200$ that may incorporate some bass management. For this, you might want to look into the Onkyo TX-SR304.

Of course, there are many offerings other than Onkyo (like Harmon kardon, Sony, etc.) so keep that in mind.

Im not really looking to future-proofing this setup, because I would never really need more then 2 speakers for a computer

I do have a yamaha subwoofer that will take the high level inputs that i totally forgot
I could get the Onkyo TX-SR506S for $119

Do i need processing for a 2.1 system ?

You want bass management. The subwoofer's high level inputs are only good as a last ditch effort. They are not optimized for any sort of good results. It is best to take care of the bass management in the receiver. Set the crossover in the subwoofer to "Off/bypass or maximum" and set the receivers to 80hz for starters.

By using bass management, you can decrease the distortion in the speakers since the bass would be moved to the subwoofer and the speaker does not have to work nearly as hard. Also, the amplifier doesn't have to work nearly as hard either. A Win-Win situation.

thanks for the help, so i guess the Onkyo TX-SR506S is the winnar :)
 

Tiamat

Lifer
Nov 25, 2003
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Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: alfa147x

Yeah sorry i didnt clarify my dad's giving me those for my birthday so ill stick with those

And i think ill be able to spend 150$ on an amp but yeah $300 way too far

thanks for the help though :)

I don't know much about them, but you may want to look into the Onkyo TX-8255 to see if it has any good reviews. It is 160$ shipped from Vanns.com and has a dock for iPod, and also should have enough inputs for whatever game systems (incl. computer) that you may have.

The problem with this budget range is that there isn't much "future-proofing". If you want a subwoofer later on, they do not have adequate bass management. If you need more power (due to moving to a much larger living arrangement for example), you cannot just buy an external amp due to lack of pre-outs, you'd have to do a complete replacement. At <$200, it could be considered as "throw-away money" to some people especially if it lasts several years prior to your next major upgrade.

If your need for up-to-date processing (e.g. dolby, surround sound, room eq) is non-existant, you probably can find some solutions in this price range. I think Onkyo has entry-level surround sound receivers around 200$ that may incorporate some bass management. For this, you might want to look into the Onkyo TX-SR304.

Of course, there are many offerings other than Onkyo (like Harmon kardon, Sony, etc.) so keep that in mind.

Im not really looking to future-proofing this setup, because I would never really need more then 2 speakers for a computer

I do have a yamaha subwoofer that will take the high level inputs that i totally forgot
I could get the Onkyo TX-SR506S for $119

Do i need processing for a 2.1 system ?

You want bass management. The subwoofer's high level inputs are only good as a last ditch effort. They are not optimized for any sort of good results. It is best to take care of the bass management in the receiver. Set the crossover in the subwoofer to "Off/bypass or maximum" and set the receivers to 80hz for starters.

By using bass management, you can decrease the distortion in the speakers since the bass would be moved to the subwoofer and the speaker does not have to work nearly as hard. Also, the amplifier doesn't have to work nearly as hard either. A Win-Win situation.

thanks for the help, so i guess the Onkyo TX-SR506S is the winnar :)

Seems like a good entry-level receiver. Although do search around for some reviews just to make sure it isn't a lemon.

Have fun and report back once you have your system up and running! We can give you some advice as to calibration and setting it up at that time :)
 

alfa147x

Lifer
Jul 14, 2005
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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: alfa147x

Yeah sorry i didnt clarify my dad's giving me those for my birthday so ill stick with those

And i think ill be able to spend 150$ on an amp but yeah $300 way too far

thanks for the help though :)

I don't know much about them, but you may want to look into the Onkyo TX-8255 to see if it has any good reviews. It is 160$ shipped from Vanns.com and has a dock for iPod, and also should have enough inputs for whatever game systems (incl. computer) that you may have.

The problem with this budget range is that there isn't much "future-proofing". If you want a subwoofer later on, they do not have adequate bass management. If you need more power (due to moving to a much larger living arrangement for example), you cannot just buy an external amp due to lack of pre-outs, you'd have to do a complete replacement. At <$200, it could be considered as "throw-away money" to some people especially if it lasts several years prior to your next major upgrade.

If your need for up-to-date processing (e.g. dolby, surround sound, room eq) is non-existant, you probably can find some solutions in this price range. I think Onkyo has entry-level surround sound receivers around 200$ that may incorporate some bass management. For this, you might want to look into the Onkyo TX-SR304.

Of course, there are many offerings other than Onkyo (like Harmon kardon, Sony, etc.) so keep that in mind.

Im not really looking to future-proofing this setup, because I would never really need more then 2 speakers for a computer

I do have a yamaha subwoofer that will take the high level inputs that i totally forgot
I could get the Onkyo TX-SR506S for $119

Do i need processing for a 2.1 system ?

You want bass management. The subwoofer's high level inputs are only good as a last ditch effort. They are not optimized for any sort of good results. It is best to take care of the bass management in the receiver. Set the crossover in the subwoofer to "Off/bypass or maximum" and set the receivers to 80hz for starters.

By using bass management, you can decrease the distortion in the speakers since the bass would be moved to the subwoofer and the speaker does not have to work nearly as hard. Also, the amplifier doesn't have to work nearly as hard either. A Win-Win situation.

thanks for the help, so i guess the Onkyo TX-SR506S is the winnar :)

Seems like a good entry-level receiver. Although do search around for some reviews just to make sure it isn't a lemon.

Have fun and report back once you have your system up and running! We can give you some advice as to calibration and setting it up at that time :)

In our HT at my house we have the 505