Best way to go from DVD ----> DIVX, whats your favorite?

DiamondFire13

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What is the best way to go from DVD to Divx? I have been using Flask, and I am having lots of crashing problems. I was wondering if there is a better way to do this, and if there are some really good guides out there. What is your favorite way?

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madthumbs

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Flask absolutely sucks. Different methods produce different results, but Flask is good for absolutely nothing but $hit.

My preferred way is dvd2avi>vfapi>nandub

Old school is dvd2avi>vfapi>virtual dub

I use ac3 and don't mess with audio compression. I do 2cd encodes using mpeg4v2.
 

Pauli

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<< Old school is dvd2avi>vfapi>virtual dub >>


Man, there's already an &quot;old school&quot; with DVD ripping?!:Q Did I fall asleep for too long?
 

TunaBoo

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Fair use for video, then graphedit for aduio, combine in virtualdub.

It works prettty durn good. Wish I could use the LAME codec for audio instead of the one virtualdub used, but oh well.
 

DiamondFire13

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Awsome, I will be doing some hardcore encoding tonight, or pulling my hair out, one or the other.

How long should this take on a 1.2 GHz athlon?

384 megs ram

Paul
 

Duvie

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Nanub seems to be the best quality, but can be very difficult to setup and understand...get guides and follow closely. two pass method is far superior.

On the flask issue..I had found that the version 0.60 preview is pure crap and crashes often...especially seems to dislike my ocing. I used 0.594 and all problems vanished and no crashes even oc'd.


I am in the process of doing my first nanub...most have been flaskmpeg and they have looked great.

< Flask absolutely sucks. Different methods produce different results, but Flask is good for absolutely nothing but $hit. >

This is an absoulutely ridiculous statement and sounds quite childish. While I agree that nanub and its better filters will produce better results remember it is all in the eye of the beholder and if you own the dvd it is still ultimately the best source period!!!

I would beg to differ on the < absolutely nothing but $hit. >. I make 2 cd movies and many have viewed my movies on their system or on my 19&quot; monitor and found the clarity to look quite good. When wtched at distance of over 4 feet many found it hard to distinguish in most instances. So maybe we just do them differently!!!
 

DiamondFire13

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Hmmm thats odd about your stability with .594, as I have found the program to be usless since it crashes so much.

Paul
 

TunaBoo

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Flask uses 1 pass encoding. If a machine has fast action and slow action (as most do) it will look like POOR. Do a movie at a set size in flash and nandub, and compare the results.

On my 1.47 TBird I do fair use movies with 8 renderins. Takes aroudn 24 hours. Uses like 380 megs of ram too, you need decent ramage.
 

Duvie

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With 12 movies done so far (many done multiple times do to the difficulty of determining end file size, even with calculators) I have yet to have one single crash with 0.594.

I got it at go.to/doom9...I got it plus the amd optimised plugin.

I generally ecode at 2000-2400 bitrate low-motion codec...96kbits for audio...I used hibicubic...I use deinterlace and progressice reconsruct when program opens it up (usually seems to be assoc. with film at 23.97fps). I set keyframes to 15sec and crispness to 85.

At above specs I generally run around 9.8 to 10.3 fps so most 2 hour movies run between 5hrs and 6-1/2 depending on wheter it is ntsc 29.97 or 23.97...I run an amd 1.1@1.2 tbird.

I use virtual dub to correct some of the audio skews (very easy and quick) that seem to becomeing mor regular on newer dvds...anyone else notice the skew on unbreakable and traffic. Smartripper list the skew during the rip, and you just need to write it down.

I will let you know when I do my first nanub full encode for time.

 

Duvie

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Tunaboo is correct on nanub and doing a better job of movies which have both low and fast action scenes. It can combine the best of each of the divx codecs, hence the multiple passes that are required.

I guess I have been lucky and not have chosen any of the real fast action intensive scenes cause I haven't seen any &quot;poor&quot; issues yet.

movies done:

Castaway
Pay it Forward
Vertical Limit
Miss Congeniality
Antitrust
Finding Forrester
Bounce
What Women Want
Unbreakable
Traffic
Bedazzled

a couple disc full of videos and trailers...
 

DiamondFire13

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Where do you get the AMD plugin, those are some damn fast numbers.

Thanks so much, you guys are so nice to help a newbie like me out.

Paul
 

Mixxen

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Duvie,
Can you give us some tip on using nanub? I've seen rips done by divx groups such as DOMiNiON and VCDVaULT...and all I have to say is wow.

I don't understand how they do it, especially when file is exactly 700MB.
 

Possum

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I agree. Follow the SBC DivX guide on doom9.net that uses Nandub to encode DivX's. The quality of these SBC DivX's are so much better than any other DivX I've seen of the same size.
 

DiamondFire13

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Hey, I got everything working really nicely, but now evertytime I select mp3 for the audio output, it appears to select it just fine, but then when I go back and check, it is gone. I installed the Radium one. Is there somewhere to get one that may work better, or a place to get directions on how to install a better audio codec, preferably MP3.

Thanks for all of the help

Paul
 

madthumbs

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-Flask deinterlace filter is poo
-Resize filter is too restrictive causing odd apsect ratios, and restrains the encoder from using optimal resolutions.
-Cropping filter is too restrictive; you either cut too far into the video, or you leave ugly grey bars.
-Flask has trouble converting many movies causing &quot;jumpiness&quot; forcing you to use another method if you want a good encode. If you have to learn another method, you're learning a better one and there is no use for Flask then.
-I've heard that Flask actually adds some artifacts to movies.

Even if Nandub didn't have SBC, it still permits changes to settings like DRF (Detail Removal) helping it make better picture quality that wasn't previously attainable even without a bitrate cap.