Originally posted by: pontifex
it would take me longer than 30 seconds to even get the case openOriginally posted by: Fenixgoon
can you disassemble a hard drive in under 30 seconds, just to get to the platters in the first place?
:|Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Wala
:|Originally posted by: Cogman
in loo of
Originally posted by: Dumac
Other than melting it in lava or blowing it up, nothing. Techies can recover erased hard drive data pretty easily, despite being wiped, magnetized, or other extreme methods.
Originally posted by: Dumac
Other than melting it in lava or blowing it up, nothing. Techies can recover erased hard drive data pretty easily, despite being wiped, magnetized, or other extreme methods.
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Jmman
Originally posted by: ed21x
it will spark up and burn in the microwave. The whole HD will be melted within a minute.
That's my vote. Microwave it.......
i'm sure you can't get it out of your computer and stick it in there all under 30 seconds
Originally posted by: Pheran
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
They can still crack the encryption though, we are talking FBI. Encryption will help in addition to physical destruction, but software stuff alone wont be enough.
This is not the movies, and the FBI is not magic. While I have no doubt that the FBI and NSA have some impressive forensics capabilities, cracking AES-256 by brute force is beyond the capability of the total computing power on earth.
Originally posted by: manlymatt83
Originally posted by: Dumac
Other than melting it in lava or blowing it up, nothing. Techies can recover erased hard drive data pretty easily, despite being wiped, magnetized, or other extreme methods.
Even zero'd?
Originally posted by: Walking in Circles
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: moparacer
Well not so much the data but if you want to screw it big time so its not "plug and play" force the power connector in upside down with the machine turned on.
I seen someone do that once with a drive and it had a nice burnt smell to it after that and it was toast.....
They'd just take the platters out in a clean room and put it into another drive. Wala, data recovery is in progress.
"Wala" ? lol.
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: Pheran
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
They can still crack the encryption though, we are talking FBI. Encryption will help in addition to physical destruction, but software stuff alone wont be enough.
This is not the movies, and the FBI is not magic. While I have no doubt that the FBI and NSA have some impressive forensics capabilities, cracking AES-256 by brute force is beyond the capability of the total computing power on earth.
IIRC the government has access to all the encryption cyphers commercially available.
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: Pheran
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
They can still crack the encryption though, we are talking FBI. Encryption will help in addition to physical destruction, but software stuff alone wont be enough.
This is not the movies, and the FBI is not magic. While I have no doubt that the FBI and NSA have some impressive forensics capabilities, cracking AES-256 by brute force is beyond the capability of the total computing power on earth.
IIRC the government has access to all the encryption cyphers commercially available.
Really, show me one court case where evidence has been introduced based on breaking strong encryption? If the CIA/FBI/etc has the ability they are not going to use it and confirm that they have that ability.
Originally posted by: Mark R
Originally posted by: manlymatt83
Originally posted by: Dumac
Other than melting it in lava or blowing it up, nothing. Techies can recover erased hard drive data pretty easily, despite being wiped, magnetized, or other extreme methods.
Even zero'd?
No. Zeroed data is pretty much unrecoverable.
There is a very slight gotcha, however, if your data is uber sensitive, military type stuff. Modern hard drives monitor the health of the drive continually - they continually run surface scans when idle, etc. If they detect a 'weak' sector, the data will be recovered, and copied to another spot on the disk. The original sector will then be marked as inactive, and the drive will automatically access the spare instead.
There is a theoretical risk that if a drive contained sensitive data, and the drive started developing weak or bad sectors, copies would be made, and the originals deactivated. Zeroing the drive (incorrectly called a low-level format), because it is a high-level process, will skirt around the weak sectors, leaving them untouched.
With the correct manufacturer specific tool, it may be possible to read data from these weak sectors which was not zeroed.
