Best watercooling case?

[Mech0z]

I am seriously considering getting some H2O cooling again. But I really feel my Antec P182 is too small to fit a 360 radiator and I would really love a case where its very easy to install that 360 radiator!

EDIT:
So until now its:
Case: I am gonna go with this Lian Li PC-A70/A71 It looks awesome and is perfect for fitting a radiator in the top. http://files.shg.dk/images/pro...WEH1KFKLSA_529_500.jpg

Cpu: D-TEK FuZion CPU (Is this worth it compared to the Apogee GT which is 2/3 of the price, the Apogee GTX is the same price)
Vga: Swiftech MCW60-R
Chipset: Swiftech MCW30
Radiator: ThermoChill PA120.3
Shroud: Thermochill PS120.3 shroud
Pump: Laing D5-Vario
Tubes: MasterKleer
Fans: 3xYate Loon - D12SL-12
Fittings: No clue yet

Price: around 600$ + shipping (Without case!)

 

[DerwenArtos12]

For the case, Cooler master stacker T01.

As for the tubing I would recommend getting 7/16"ID 5/8"OD tubing. For fitting the only one should have in your system is a single T at the lowest point for draining the system and any good quality 1/2" T fitting will work just fine.

The D-tek VGA block is way too restrictive the Swiftech MCW60 is the way to go!

The PA120.3 is the highest performance, I doubt anyone will argue and if you like it and don't mind making room for it then I say go for it but, I think the swiftech MCR320 performs very close and is much thinner.

What reservoir and fans are you looking to use?

Finally distilled water by itself is the highest performance liquid you can get, anything you add to it is going to degrade performance slightly. mixing 85-90% distilled water and 10-15% high quality antifreeze is the best way to go as the alcohol in the antifreeze will prevent algae build-up.

 

[Mech0z]

I thought the Tygon was the best tubes and I cant seem to find those tubes you are mentioning in any of the danish stores where I am looking http://vcore.dk/shop/slanger-5c1.html and http://coolerkit.dk/group.asp?group=31&sub=31 the same with the radiator, so I would have to import that from some EU country. But I guess it being slimmer is making it easier to install? I am not by any means a good handyman so I need easy mods

For fans I want the Yate Loon D12SL-12, I havent decided on a reservoir yet as that depends on the space inside the case.

This set http://www.petrastechshop.com/pecogpuel.html seems very temping as well though but dont know what the oversea shipping cost is. But its alot cheaper around ½ of the price of this.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

tubing
and
tubing

as for the radiator I was able to find the dual 120mm swiftech but not the tripple, the Primochill will be the way to go unless you want to import it.

I don't even know if Petra will do international shipping but, it's going to get REALLY expensive. I would personally reccomend atleast the D12SM's for airflow, especially if you're going to be cooling that much with a single radiator. The zalman ZF-3 if you can get them or the Scythe Ultra-Kaze fans.

 

[Mech0z]

What about hte set from petrastechshop.com if I choose the triple radiator and the Apogee GTX? Its prolly gonna be 2/3 of the price of the system I made with taxes and 50$ to shipping (Have no clue what the price is!)

 

[DerwenArtos12]

see above post, I edited it.

Oh, and keep the Fuzion CPU block just ditch the D-tek VGA block.

 

[Mech0z]

The petra is a MCR320-QP which was what you suggested dunno why you think its a single radiator

But I will try to make a new build with the suggestions you have said and calculate a price, so I can compare them a bit better.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Single as in one quantity radiator with one quantity loop. Lots of people are using more than one quantity radiator and multiple separate loops.

 

[Mech0z]

CAn you explain that graphically? Because I am not entirely sure I understand that. Running more than one radiator and having cpu and gpu on separate systems?

loop 1: cpu, radiator and pump
loop 2: gpu, chipset, radiator and pump

Or?

Btw: http://images.uploadimago.net/34471Untitled.jpg this is what I have now.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Mech0z
CAn you explain that graphically? Because I am not entirely sure I understand that. Running more than one radiator and having cpu and gpu on separate systems?

loop 1: cpu, radiator and pump
loop 2: gpu, chipset, radiator and pump

Or?

Btw: http://images.uploadimago.net/34471Untitled.jpg this is what I have now.

lol... derwen i'll help out... you were doing a great job.


He recomends splitting the loop or getting 1 large class radiator. The radiator, block, and pump are the core of your system.

Flow pressure, cooling capacity, and transfer rate.

when you have a gpu in the system, your loop heats up because you have more sources dumping heat. A radiator has a max performance limit it can radiate heat.

If you exceed this amount, you need a larger radiator or you need to split the loop.

The MCR320 will handle a quadcore and your GTS as long as you put that gpu on a CORE ONLY BLOCK. MCW60 is an example of core only.

The Fullcover block, like DangerDens or EK, has been shown to raise your cpu load temps by almost 7-8C when loaded. Thats a LOT of increase.

So you need to tell us what your aiming at? silence? or you want to overclock to the upper limits of water?


Your first choice with the PA would work with a single radiator. The PA120.3 is expensive, but has about a 100W more cooling capacity then a MCR320 with good fans. Swap out that d-tek gpu with a MCW60, or even better is the New DangerDen IONE Full Cover. Its showing to kick the MCW60's butt in flow reduction. Which is seriously WOW on its own.

 

[Mech0z]

As shown in my little excel doc I have swapped the GPU to the MCW60 http://images.uploadimago.net/34471Untitled.jpg

My goal is semi good overclock but mainly silence. Because I sleep in the room where my computer is and I have it running 24/7. About the gpu cooling I dont want a fullcover as if I upgrade they are hopelessly expensive imo. But from what I could understand the P120.3 is almost twice as thick and therefore a lot more difficult to mount? If this is not true then I will go with that.

Btw. My overclocking is mostly limited to CPU as Gpu shows such small increases considered how much extra heat it produces.

 

[aigomorla]

what case is this going into?

Depending on the case, the PA will fit if you can fit it sideways.

The PA is also a bit longer. Make sure you pick up the EK G3/8 metal barbs for it. PA's dont come with metal barbs.

 

[Mech0z]

Well the stacker looks good and I found a danish guy who has this http://galleri.fordi.at/h2o/ which looks decent. But I am very open to suggestions I still need to find myself a job soon making me able to pay for it I upgraded to this rig in December so my wallet is still hurt from that!

Btw. Isnt it really hard to fit more than one radiator into any case? And is there a forum which is dedicated (and active) watercooling somewhere if people know it. Possiblely with a gallery so I could check some cases out

http://images.uploadimago.net/1721Untitled.jpg I am gonna stick with the PA those 100w is quite a bit.

The PA is also a bit longer. Make sure you pick up the EK G3/8 metal barbs for it. PA's dont come with metal barbs.

Is this what your thinking about http://vcore.dk/shop/thermochill-ps120-3-901p.html

Or even better is the New DangerDen IONE Full Cover

I cant find that anywhere and right now I don't need to import anything which I really like. But I couldn't find that block even on their own homepage.

So until now its:
Case: I am gonna go with this Lian Li PC-A70/A71 It looks awesome and is perfect for fitting a radiator in the top. http://files.shg.dk/images/pro...WEH1KFKLSA_529_500.jpg

Cpu: D-TEK FuZion CPU (Is this worth it compared to the Apogee GT which is 2/3 of the price, the Apogee GTX is the same price)
Vga: Swiftech MCW60-R
Chipset: Swiftech MCW30
Radiator: ThermoChill PA120.3
Shroud: Thermochill PS120.3 shroud
Pump: Laing D5-Vario
Tubes: MasterKleer
Fans: 3xYate Loon - D12SL-12
Fittings: No clue yet

Price: around 600$ + shipping (Without case!)

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: Mech0z
Well the stacker looks good and I found a danish guy who has this http://galleri.fordi.at/h2o/ which looks decent. But I am very open to suggestions I still need to find myself a job soon making me able to pay for it I upgraded to this rig in December so my wallet is still hurt from that!

Btw. Isnt it really hard to fit more than one radiator into any case? And is there a forum which is dedicated (and active) watercooling somewhere if people know it. Possiblely with a gallery so I could check some cases out

http://images.uploadimago.net/1721Untitled.jpg I am gonna stick with the PA those 100w is quite a bit.

The PA is also a bit longer. Make sure you pick up the EK G3/8 metal barbs for it. PA's dont come with metal barbs.

Is this what your thinking about http://vcore.dk/shop/thermochill-ps120-3-901p.html

Or even better is the New DangerDen IONE Full Cover

I cant find that anywhere and right now I don't need to import anything which I really like. But I couldn't find that block even on their own homepage.

So until now its:
Case: I am gonna go with this Lian Li PC-A70/A71 It looks awesome and is perfect for fitting a radiator in the top. http://files.shg.dk/images/pro...WEH1KFKLSA_529_500.jpg

Cpu: D-TEK FuZion CPU (Is this worth it compared to the Apogee GT which is 2/3 of the price, the Apogee GTX is the same price)
Vga: Swiftech MCW60-R
Chipset: Swiftech MCW30
Radiator: ThermoChill PA120.3
Shroud: Thermochill PS120.3 shroud
Pump: Laing D5-Vario
Tubes: MasterKleer
Fans: 3xYate Loon - D12SL-12
Fittings: No clue yet

Price: around 600$ + shipping (Without case!)

besides the price that looks great. I'm really surprise everything is costing almost half again more to get there.

And what he meant by metal barbs is something like these

 

[Mech0z]

Ah okay thought they where called fittings, well all prices are inc. vac which in Denmark is 25% (sucks!) Btw is that shroud needed to mount the fans, I cant really figure it out :s

 

[aigomorla]

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/...ath=28&products_id=228

Get those. You'll need 2 for the PA. THEY WILL ONLY FIT ON THE PA.

The PA uses G3/8 and not G1/4 as everthing else usually does.


Also for fans, pick the Zalman 120mm fans. They give better static pressure so you can tune them down lower and get = results. Better fans would be san ace 1011. AKA Sanyo Denki SanAce.

But there really hard to find..

im assuming your shopping in the EU region? if your US based i could give you better store recomendations.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

It appears he's in denmark, how about these

 

[Mech0z]

I am gonna take this reservoir http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/...ath=26&products_id=168 as it makes it possible to use a Dangerden Fillport in the top and a drain in the bottom. But I guess for the draining part to be effective I have to install the reservoir very low in my case? I thought about this install http://images.uploadimago.net/59109Untitled.jpg

About fans, I can only find the ZALMAN ZM F3 the Sanyo don't seem to be at any danish retailers.

Also another thing with the install I plan I placed the pump in the top of the case, whats the best? Or is that without influence.

And finally is the D-TEK FuZion CPU better than the Apogee GT/GTX? The GTX is the same price but the GT is only 2/3 price.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
It appears he's in denmark, how about these

+1 +1 +1 +1 +1

12mm ~ 1/2OD barbs. :T


only fits on the PA tho. Dont expect it to fit on anything else.

 

[Mech0z]

I am really in doubt if its even possible to have the PA120.3 and the pump up in the top part of the case, I got a friend sending this picture showing how much space their is in the case in the top http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6416/m8copyzw3.jpg and that means there is 10 cm left other than the Radiator if I put it side by side with the front. wondering if it would be more reasonable to go for PA120.2 and maybe mount another one later at the back outside. :/

Guess there should be space for such one http://www.tweakup.dk/images/article/1354/9.jpg next to the radiator and then its only if there is enough space for the pump in the back :S

 

[NinjaJedi]

If you don't mind paying up the you know what. The U2-UFO comes standard to fit a pa120.3 can also special order so the back can house one other wise the back holds a pa120.2 I really like the new modular design they have come up with. I have heard shipping is slow even for something that is not custom.

http://www.mountainmods.com/

 

[Mech0z]

Those are really nice but not that pretty though^^, but damm they are expensive with their UK reseller 400$+ that is above what I am happy to pay I think

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Should be enough room to mount the pump inverted at the top but, why not just mount the pump and reservoir a little lower in the spare 5.25" bays?

 

[NinjaJedi]

Originally posted by: Mech0z
Those are really nice but not that pretty though^^, but damm they are expensive with their UK reseller 400$+ that is above what I am happy to pay I think

That is for sure. I think but am not sure that they do not do in house manufacturing. Having to pay someone to machine the parts is a big cost of it.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Mech0z
Those are really nice but not that pretty though^^, but damm they are expensive with their UK reseller 400$+ that is above what I am happy to pay I think

:laugh:

Front:
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0709.jpg

Side Inside
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0721.jpg

Rear
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0722.jpg

Yeah those are 4 raptors in raid0
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0727.jpg

My second radiator:
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0692.jpg


<3 MM however its kinda big. People get my computers mixed up and think the MM is the NAS and the NAS my main.

And no i dont have patience... whats this thing called load time? OH you mean when im waiting for everyone else to load? <sarcasm dont take me seriously>