best Video card for 7750 Kuma

[Rifter]

Like title says, will be building a system with a 7750BE CPU, going to try for 3+Ghz. When will this become a limiting factor in games as i dont want to get to high end of a GPU and have it CPU limited, will upgrade to Phenom II or new .45nm Athlons in 12-18months and will upgrade video then as well so something to get me by till then , will be playing at low res on a 720P 32" LCD HDTV. Was thinking a 4850 or should i just buck up the cash and get a 4870?

 

[teatime0315]

4850 at that res is plenty good. Save your cash
Edit: I'm using the 4850 for 1920x1200 and it can handle anything at max settings... minus crysis of course.

 

[Rifter]

Thanks for the input, i have my eyes on the gigabyte fanless 4850, quiet is good as comp will be in my livingroom 3 ft from TV. And i hear it actually cools better than most of the cards with fans as long as you have good case airflow. Think prices will drop much on the 4850 now that the 90 is out?

 

[bryanW1995]

Just buy a 790gx mobo and save your money on a vid card if you're only gaming at 13x7...

seriously, keep your eyes peeled for a 9600gso, 3850, or equivalent cpu at that resolution. uh, maybe a 4650 or 4670 for a modern card would be about the same. you'll be able to play just about anything at that res on all max, then you can splurge when you upgrade the system in 12-18 mos.

edit: ok, a 4670, 9600 gso, or 3850 (even 256mb is fine at that res) would be ideal for you.

 

[Rifter]

Not a bad idea, although i was impressed with the 780G onboard graphics(in system in sig) it did leave something to be desired when the screen got full and there was alot of fire/physics going on, this was at 1280x1024 res, im assuming because the memory is not as fast as a dedicated card. Is the 790GX any better than the 780G?

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Rifterut
Not a bad idea, although i was impressed with the 780G onboard graphics(in system in sig) it did leave something to be desired when the screen got full and there was alot of fire/physics going on, this was at 1280x1024 res, im assuming because the memory is not as fast as a dedicated card. Is the 790GX any better than the 780G?

well, 13x7 is only about 60% as video intensive as 1280x1024. Get the 790gx and see how you like it, if it doesn't work you can always upgrade your video card for very little money. Right now a 9600 gso is ~ $50 at newegg, you could probably get one for closer to $30 in fs/ft, ebay, etc if it becomes necessary.

 

[Rifter]

Thats true, the mobo im getting has HDMI so i guess it cant hurt to try it out, is a 9600gso much better than the 790GX? i need to look at soime low end benchmarks

 

[angry hampster]

Originally posted by: Rifterut
Thats true, the mobo im getting has HDMI so i guess it cant hurt to try it out, is a 9600gso much better than the 790GX? i need to look at soime low end benchmarks

A modern, discrete solution is almost always leaps and bounds better.

 

[vj8usa]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
well, 13x7 is only about 60% as video intensive as 1280x1024

Wait, what? You mean 1366x768, right? That's 80% of 1280x1024, not 60%.

 

[bryanW1995]

oops, I was rounding down

9600 gso is leaps and bounds ahead of 790gx. It will be overkill for that resolution, a 790gx might be sufficient for you.

edit: he's on a 720p tv...not sure but I think that native res is actually 1280x720, giving him about 70% of a 1280x1024.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

No, 720p TVs can also display 1366x768.

Whatever the case, I suggest he gets the beefiest card he can afford. Even at 720p, an HD4850 will still show improvements over a 9600GSO in newer and more demanding games - like Crysis, Stalker, Clear Sky, Call of Juarez, and World in Conflict. With a more powerful card, he will ensure that he can enable high quality AA and AF in even the more demanding games to make them look even better and still get good framerates. And trust me, when playing at such a low resolution AA and AF make a huge difference. An Athlon 7750 @ 3 GHz shouldn't be a bad bottleneck for even an HD4870, at least in games that don't scale beyond two cores.

 

[Rifter]

TV is 1366x768, its a Sony Bravia. sorry if there was any confusion

thank you for your input cusideabelincoln, I think i will go with a 4850 in a week or two ill wait and see what the prices do, hopefully the 4890 will drop all the 4xxx prices.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

I would suggest either a 4650 if you are $$ conscience, or a 4830. Anything higher at that resolution and you'll be tossing your $$ in the toilet.

The 4650 will play all the games good on high, but the 4830 will allow you to use 4xaa/8xaa and look fantastic while maintaining those framerates.

 

[kmmatney]

I would say an HD4830 as a minimum, but would also suggest the HD4850 (or MVidia GTS 250 1 GB). The HD4830 would probably work fine, though, at $75 after $15 rebate.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Well if you can wait until May, AMD is probably - if rumors turn out to be true - going to release the HD4770 which should retail for $99 and give you performance on between the HD4830 and 4850. If this turns out to be true then I don't suspect prices will drop too much on the 4850, although nothing is certain.

Source: http://techreport.com/discussions.x/16671

Some "benchmarks" http://www.guru3d.com/article/...-review-preview-test/7

 

[Leyawiin]

The silent Gigabyte HD 4850 is a good choice with a little insurance for the future - should you hook it up to something with a higher res. Its also a good match for your CPU - about the maximum it would need or handle. You pay a little more for a custom cooling solution, but they're generally worth it where that GPU is concerned. For your specific purpose (living room PC) I think silent is your best bet (although you'll won't get away from case/cpu fan noise which most of the time is all you'll hear except when gaming).

Another option (and at 720p it might be fine):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814102816

Here's some reviews. No barn-burner, but silent, cool, low power - and cheap.

http://www.bigbruin.com/2009/sapphire4670_10
http://www.overclockersclub.co...d_4670_ultimate/16.htm

 

[Rifter]

thanks for the input guys i might get a larger 42-47" 1080P Tv in the future so being prepared for that would have its benifits, and was also thinking of getting a board with 2 express slots so i could possibly go crossfire when i upgrade my CPU in 12-18 months so maybe the 4850 is a good idea, wont have cash for two weeks so i guess ill get whatever is a great deal at the time. keep the good idea coming .

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Rifterut
thanks for the input guys i might get a larger 42-47" 1080P Tv in the future so being prepared for that would have its benifits, and was also thinking of getting a board with 2 express slots so i could possibly go crossfire when i upgrade my CPU in 12-18 months so maybe the 4850 is a good idea, wont have cash for two weeks so i guess ill get whatever is a great deal at the time. keep the good idea coming .

the 4830 or 4850 are plenty good at that 1366x768 but yeah not so much at 1920x1080. in 12-18 months adding a second one would be silly though. by then we will have newer cards that will be much faster with more tech. for example a current 4850 makes more sense than running two 3850 or even 3870 cards. also at 1080 you would need more than 512mb of vram for some games.

 

[Rifter]

the gigabyte card im looking at with passive cooling is a 1 GB card.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Rifterut
the gigabyte card im looking at with passive cooling is a 1 GB card.

oh okay but the rest of what I said still makes sense.

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: toyota

the 4830 or 4850 are plenty good at that 1366x768 but yeah not so much at 1920x1080. in 12-18 months adding a second one would be silly though. by then we will have newer cards that will be much faster with more tech. for example a current 4850 makes more sense than running two 3850 or even 3870 cards.

Yeah, I never understood where does the " and I'll be adding a second card later if performance is not enough" general theory comes from. It's widely spread between the "hardware people".

You make SLI/crossfire right from the begging, otherwise there's no point in it.

 

[Rifter]

I pulled the pin on a sapphire 4830 512MB, for $116 CDN, ill let you all know how it turns out when all the parts arrive should be late this week or early next. The 4830 seems to be really cheap right now and im hopeing i can OC it to 4850 specs.

 

[way2fast91]

OP- if it helps, please see my specs below. I ran this on my 1080p 61" tv and now have moved it back into my study on a 22" 1080p monitor. Have the GPU oc'ed and couldn't be happier with the performance vs $ spent in games such as Fallout3, L4D and Oblivion.

To get to 3 Ghz I simply bumped up the multi in AMD overdrive. Runs nice and cool with my CM TX2 cooler and AS5.

 

[Rifter]

Thanks, i hope to hit over 3ghz if possible as well. Im just waiting for the video card and mobo should be in tuesday. I hope everything works when i put it together