Best vidcard for 1920 x 1200 LCD (Dell 2405)?

[SlateGrey]

Mostly text and internet, but gaming too.
PCI-e.

What's available now, and is there anything new just about to be released?

 

[JBT]

The next gen cards are suppose to be unveiled later this month (G70, R520). I suggest waiting just a bit longer before you purchase.

 

[Boris the Spider]

X800XL but I would imagine at that res it might struggle a bit on modern games on high settings. Definetely no AA/AF for the majority of games though. The next gen cards will be "launched" this month, but will probably not be available for another two months at a reasonable price. Of course these cards won't be in the 200-300 dollar range...

 

[SlateGrey]

Will the G70 and R520 be that spectacularly better than the 6800 and X850?

And what is the definition of unveiled? On the Newegg main page, or to vidboard makers to start their designs, or something in between? Are these cards going to be available in quantity by July or by October?

It's always good to wait, if for nothing else than price drops on the existing card lines, but I need a video card fairly quickly. In fact, I need two cards, so the one I get now might be the primary card for a very short time, before doing duty as a secondary, dual-monitor support card (1280x1024 + 1024x768).

So, if these new card lines aren't out in short order, what's the best medium-cheap PCI-e card out now for a 1920 along with dual-DVI outputs?

 

[Amplifier]

Yeah they will Slate. No clue if any games will support their power, but they will pwn.

 

[JBT]

They *should* be about twice as fast as the current top end cards. Who knows how long it will take for availibilty. I got my 6800 GT for 300 in early July of last year and I think they were announced in June or late May so it is very possible they will be available by then.

 

[SlateGrey]

It never ceases to amaze me, even after 20 years involved in PC's, how after such huge changes in a technology segment, when you expect the next generation to have little more than a marginal advantage of refinement over existing technology, and yet the succeeding generation ends up with as much advance over the current as the current did over the last. Simply amazing. Mathematically, it can't go on forever, but it can go on for quite a while.

 

[SlateGrey]

The 6800 GT still shows up as $300 today on PriceWatch.
Has this card not gone down in price at all in the year since you bought yours?

How much of a performance difference is there between the 6600 and the 6800?
How much between 128k and 256k?

Because there is a huge price difference between PCI-e versions of:
6800 GT (256) -- $360
6600 GT (128) -- $160

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: SlateGrey
The 6800 GT still shows up as $300 today on PriceWatch.
Has this card not gone down in price at all in the year since you bought yours?

How much of a performance difference is there between the 6600 and the 6800?
How much between 128k and 256k?

Because there is a huge price difference between PCI-e versions of:
6800 GT (256) -- $360
6600 GT (128) -- $160

Let me tell you what. If you don't have the extra $200 burning a hole in your pocket, the 6600gt actually works fine. It will run anything without aa/af at that resolution. It will even do it with 2xaa and 8xaf if you're not one of those people who needs 80fps. I'm not a hardcore gamer so as long as I get 30fps I'm happy and my 6600gt gives me that on my 2405fpw with 2xaa + 8xaf.

EDIT: later this year maybe I'll get a 7600gt or something like that, but I don't game enough to justify a $400 video card.

 

[JBT]

Originally posted by: SlateGrey
The 6800 GT still shows up as $300 today on PriceWatch.
Has this card not gone down in price at all in the year since you bought yours?

I got my card 30% off on a VERY hot deal. So it started around $400. I think thse cards will drop quite a bit once the G70 is out in a few weeks, so I would wait till then.

As for a 6800 GT vs a 6600 GT. The difference is quite noticable in terms of performance. So again wiat till the new cards come out and see where the 6800GT is then.

 

[SlateGrey]

Well, that's two different responses on the PCI-e 6600GT vs 6800GT difference. Which is expected as it's subjective.

Since nobody remarked on 128m vs 256m, can I assume that 256 meg doesn't buy you much over 128m on the vidcard?

Let me ask also: does either the 6600GT or 6800GT support dual LCD's at these resolutions: 1280x1024 + 1024x768 ?

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: SlateGrey
The 6800 GT still shows up as $300 today on PriceWatch.
Has this card not gone down in price at all in the year since you bought yours?

How much of a performance difference is there between the 6600 and the 6800?
How much between 128k and 256k?

Because there is a huge price difference between PCI-e versions of:
6800 GT (256) -- $360
6600 GT (128) -- $160

Let me tell you what. If you don't have the extra $200 burning a hole in your pocket, the 6600gt actually works fine. It will run anything without aa/af at that resolution. It will even do it with 2xaa and 8xaf if you're not one of those people who needs 80fps. I'm not a hardcore gamer so as long as I get 30fps I'm happy and my 6600gt gives me that on my 2405fpw with 2xaa + 8xaf.

EDIT: later this year maybe I'll get a 7600gt or something like that, but I don't game enough to justify a $400 video card.

Granted I haven't played @ 1920x1200, but I would think a 6600GT would struggle, A LOT.

 

[SrGuapo]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Granted I haven't played @ 1920x1200, but I would think a 6600GT would struggle, A LOT.

My 6600gt (heavily OCed) can only pull 80-100 FPs in CS:S at 1024x768 4x4x, so I seriouslyu doubt it could handle 1920x1200... Do most games even support that resoluton?

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: SrGuapo

Originally posted by: bjc112

Granted I haven't played @ 1920x1200, but I would think a 6600GT would struggle, A LOT.

My 6600gt (heavily OCed) can only pull 80-100 FPs in CS:S at 1024x768 4x4x, so I seriouslyu doubt it could handle 1920x1200... Do most games even support that resoluton?

Tons of games support it, but there is an HUGE difference between 1024x768 and 1920x1200


Not sure if this is the correct way to count pixels, but ..

1024x768 =786.000 pixels

1920x1200 = 2.304.000 pixel

Almost triple..

:Q

Good luck on that...

 

[Acanthus]

G70 chips have already been shipped to OEMs.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: SrGuapo

Originally posted by: bjc112

Granted I haven't played @ 1920x1200, but I would think a 6600GT would struggle, A LOT.

My 6600gt (heavily OCed) can only pull 80-100 FPs in CS:S at 1024x768 4x4x, so I seriouslyu doubt it could handle 1920x1200... Do most games even support that resoluton?

Tons of games support it, but there is an HUGE difference between 1024x768 and 1920x1200


Not sure if this is the correct way to count pixels, but ..

1024x768 =786.000 pixels

1920x1200 = 2.304.000 pixel

Almost triple..

:Q

Good luck on that...

Its very possible to run that resolution, but you would most definately have to drop AA and AF, and forget about HDR. (unless you wait for G70 or go Ultra SLI, which would be stupid with G70 so close)

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: SrGuapo

Originally posted by: bjc112

Granted I haven't played @ 1920x1200, but I would think a 6600GT would struggle, A LOT.

My 6600gt (heavily OCed) can only pull 80-100 FPs in CS:S at 1024x768 4x4x, so I seriouslyu doubt it could handle 1920x1200... Do most games even support that resoluton?

Tons of games support it, but there is an HUGE difference between 1024x768 and 1920x1200


Not sure if this is the correct way to count pixels, but ..

1024x768 =786.000 pixels

1920x1200 = 2.304.000 pixel

Almost triple..

:Q

Good luck on that...

Its very possible to run that resolution, but you would most definately have to drop AA and AF, and forget about HDR. (unless you wait for G70 or go Ultra SLI, which would be stupid with G70 so close)

With your system? or a 6600GT?

 

[coomar]

i doubt the 6600gt can do 1900x1200, it struggled in sli mode to pull down 1600x1200, its limited by the 128-bit interface, you need a 256-bit card for the high resolutions but at that resolution your going to need a powerful videocard, probably better to wait a month and get a 6800gt after the pricedrop

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: SrGuapo

Originally posted by: bjc112

Granted I haven't played @ 1920x1200, but I would think a 6600GT would struggle, A LOT.

My 6600gt (heavily OCed) can only pull 80-100 FPs in CS:S at 1024x768 4x4x, so I seriouslyu doubt it could handle 1920x1200... Do most games even support that resoluton?

Tons of games support it, but there is an HUGE difference between 1024x768 and 1920x1200


Not sure if this is the correct way to count pixels, but ..

1024x768 =786.000 pixels

1920x1200 = 2.304.000 pixel

Almost triple..

:Q

Good luck on that...

Its very possible to run that resolution, but you would most definately have to drop AA and AF, and forget about HDR. (unless you wait for G70 or go Ultra SLI, which would be stupid with G70 so close)

With your system? or a 6600GT?

A 6600, on pretty much any game that isnt Doom 3, HL2, Far Cry.

 

[fstime]

Nothing.

Have fun having zero aa/af, zero HDR, and you might actually have to use medium settings instead of high settings if you choose a 6600gt.

x800XL is what I would get.

2x 6800GT SLI is what I would get with that kind of monitor.

 

[SlateGrey]

My main question remains, considering that the G70 and R520 will probably be priced way high for the rest of the year. Leaving any likely affordable choice from the current crop of cards at perhaps a somewhat cheaper price in the month or two after the new releases.

My requirements again:

1) Immediately: 1920 x 1200 LCD some gaming

Is it the consensus that the 6600 GT doesn't meet the 1920x1200 gaming requirement, but the 6800 GT does?

How about the ATI line: X700 - X800 - X850?

128 meg or 256 meg?


2) Later: SLI-off to support dual (1280x1024 + 1024x768) older LCDs

Do all of these cards support dual outputs at (1280x1024 + 1024x768)?


How about some answers from the current crop of cards, or are they just not enough to do the jobs: 1920 and dual (1280 + 1024)?

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: SrGuapo

Originally posted by: bjc112

Granted I haven't played @ 1920x1200, but I would think a 6600GT would struggle, A LOT.

My 6600gt (heavily OCed) can only pull 80-100 FPs in CS:S at 1024x768 4x4x, so I seriouslyu doubt it could handle 1920x1200... Do most games even support that resoluton?

You doubt, while you don't even know if most games support that resolution, while I've played several games at that resolution on my 6600gt. Once you O/C the card it can run 2x AA and 8x af on a lot of games at that resolution.

 

[sxr7171]

If your budget allows $300 and you need it now, I would get an X800XL though.

 

[fstime]

for $300, the XL spanks the 6600gt.

It will especially spank it at high resoloutions with aa/af.

It will even spank 2x 6600gts in SLI at that res.

 

[slatr]

Yeah, def go with a card that has a 256 bit interface to memory.

I use a ATI radeon 9800 with my 2405. 1900 X 1200 is fine for WOW and DAOC, but I don't turn on aa/af ect..

But.. at that res you really don't miss things like that... esp AA.

If I got rid of my card today I would probably get an X800XT or 6800 GT. I'll have to wait on the 7800, nice as it may be.