Best Values soundcard?

Johnbear007

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Ok, what I need is a sound card to replace my diamond mx300 vortex2 . I just think that it is aging, and I get some crackling and stuff sometimes...

Ok....

I dont need 5.1 or surround or any kind of positional audio or digital thx certification dolby stuff...


I just need something that sounds good and clear for games and music, nothing fancy, but I dont want anything crappy. I'll be using it with Headphones, and with a 2 sattelite 1 sub setup.
 

Junin

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You can get a SBLive! for around $30 these days.
It's a nice soundcard and you'll have hardware EAX support to replace your A3D 2.0 from your Vortex2. A pretty shabby replacement, but it's still positional audio (for gaming as well as listening). Works with headphones too.
 

Junin

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Honestly, I've spent very little time at all doing research on different soundcards. However, as a gamer and more than casual mp3 listener, I can say that unless you're a freak about sound, you won't notice a very big difference no matter which card you choose. I recently upgraded my SBLive! to an Audigy2 and the difference in quality is noticeable. Going up to 24-bit sound is quite a nice step up.

Do you use your A3D 2.0 support for your games you play? A3D is a deceased api, but if you are like me, you still enjoy playing some of the "oldie but goodie" games like Half-Life, etc. If you mainly play those type of games, you may want to try a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz. If you're into the newer games, EAX is definitely the way to go.

If you are willing to spend $110 or so on a sound card, get an Audigy2 (or wait to see the reviews M-Audio Revolution 24bit).
Otherwise, get a SBLive!
 

holdencommodore

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Well, the Hurcules Fortissimo III 7.1 is very good value, and has great headphone output (from the Sensaura 3D API). Be very careful that you don't get stuck with a PSC704 Seismic Edge, only EAX 1 support, no new drivers.

The PSC705 Seismic Edge is quite good for music, not *too* bad for gaming, the Fortissimo III will be better for that and headphone.

I wouldn't spend all that money for a Audigy 2 though, for only 2 speakers and headphones. There are alternatives that will provide similar sound for 2.1 speakers for less $$.

Cheers
 

Bovinicus

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I would suggest the Seismic Edge. I have an Acoustic Edge, and it is really great. I noticed quite an improvement over my SB Live! The change was actually more drastic than I expected.
 

holdencommodore

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I test drivers for Philips (currently have Aztech PCI 368DSP (ThunderBird Q3D), PSC705, PSC706, PSC605), and their cards are good for music and DVD, but QSounds EAX implimentation needs works. Its not upto that of Sensauras or Creatives. Their new PSC604 and PSC605 Sonic and Dynamic Edge soundcards are actually more impressive IMO then then the Seismic Edge PSC705 and PSC706 when it comes to music and headphones. The QMSS algorithim is also improved and the Sound Agent 2 software includes a full EQ. EAX still needs work, once fixed, it will be a very good budget card.

Cheers
 

Soulkeeper

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another vote for the SB Live!
it's the best price/performance sound card right now in my opinion
well worth a measly 30 bucks
 

Johnbear007

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Well, as far as the live goes, I think at this point the seismic edge is a better value. It is the same price, it has a newer feature set, and maturing drivers, so I think im going to stay away from the live. I would however like to hear more about the fortissimo.

Headphone output may be the most important factor here actually.
 

Johnbear007

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Originally posted by: holdencommodore
Well, you will find reviews of the Fortissimo III here.

Cheers

Ahh thanks....


I think the surround features must really drive up the price though.......


What do you think of the seismic edge vs. the sblive?
 

Brian48

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The new Seismic Edge (PSC705) is essentially the same card as the higher-end Acoustic Edge, only without all the I/O bells and whistles. The sound quality should be just as excellent as the Acoustic Edge (uses the same Thunderbird Avenger DSP and drivers). The only thing I don't like about the Philips cards, and this is irrelevant if you have a fairly fast system, is that gaming performance is markedly slower than either of the Creative or Cirrus Logic based cards like the Santa Cruz and Herc cards.

I'd opt for the either the Fortissimo III or Seismic Edge if you're looking for a budget, but practical upgrade to your existing sound card. I don't have anything against the SBLive, still have mine from '98, but if you're going to upgrade, you might as will upgrade. The SBLive is OLD and was the direct competitor to the MX300. You'd just be trading in one old card for another. The Santa Cruz is a great card too. Have had one for years now as well, but it's a better music card than one for gaming. Also, this card is at the end of it's life cycle as driver support has ceased.

If you really want to spend the money, the best all-around card for both gaming and music right now is the Audigy2. Despite what the anti-Creative zealots will tell you, this Creative card is a real winner and is NOT the same animal as the original Audigy, which I wouldn't normally recommend.

Of course, if you're just looking a plain ol' cheap PCI sound card that doesn't suck, the C-Media 8738 based cards do offer a lot of bang for the buck. This is my personal favorite, but it's out of stock at the time of this posting. It's a reference design that's used by practically everybody though so you can find clones every where (ie. Herc Muse 5.1 DVD is the same card).

 

magomago

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Or if you are looking into rebuilding whatever rig you have get the Asus nforce2 deluxe model....

audio quality is great and better than my vortex1 card (and it does 5.1 too and hae a s/pdif output whatever the heck that is :p )
 

Johnbear007

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Originally posted by: magomago
Or if you are looking into rebuilding whatever rig you have get the Asus nforce2 deluxe model....

audio quality is great and better than my vortex1 card (and it does 5.1 too and hae a s/pdif output whatever the heck that is :p )


not looking to rebuild... I have a k7s5a... dont want to use teh onboard audio....


I think i'll either get teh seismic edge, or just stick with me mx300

thats the thing.. after all this looking around... none of these new cards offer me anymore than my mx300 already gives me.. just a bunch of I/O garbage I dont need.