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Best Socket 754 64bit money:performance cpu?

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Wag

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Running a K7Upgrade-880 with a Athlon 2600+ mobile @ 220FSB and was thinking of upgrading to a 754 (this mobo has a bridgeboard slot).

Should I just wait for the prices on the 3700+ to drop or should I get something cheaper? Yes, I know 939 is better, but this is what I currently have, so I might as well use it.
 
go cheap, you will want to upgrade within a year or two and will end up going 939 or newer anyway, so just get by now. Your motherboard is outdated so its not going to last very long anyway. So if you want to save long term go with a 3000ish or just hold off all together.

If you really want to spend the money, get a good 939 board and cheap venice 3000+ and OC the heck outa it. saves money there too.


just my advice
 
It would be the same price to get a DFI Ultra-D and a venice 3000+. OC that sucker and you will get a much better performing chip.

Edit: I assume you want to keep you AGP card, so you will either need an AGP board, or just wait. I would recommend the Epox 9NDA3+ for a good OCing AGP board.
 
the best performance:money is always the cheapest cpu, if you factor in overclocking 🙂 a s754 2800+ i played with recently has no problems running 2.4ghz at stock volts, and above 2.5ghz at the tiniest overvolt. with stock cooling too! they aren't all equally good, but the chance that it'll clock up is pretty good.

the next best buy is a chip with 1mb l2 cache - i thought the 3500+ was the cheapest of those, and still not anywhere cheap enough to be worth it.
but hey! newegg has some "DTR" athlon64 clawhammer 1mb l2 chips at ratings 3000+, 3400+ etc, like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103470
the picture of it looks like an athlonxp though, so i dont know how legit that is, if someone can shed some light on it i would be grateful.
if you can find a 1mb l2 chip cheaply, it could be worth it (you can't gain more cache by overclocking, unlike raw clockspeed)

i don't see a point going for anything faster, as you can usually achieve those speeds with the cheaper models anyway.

i think its not a question of IF, but rather WHEN will you move to socket 939, pci-express, dualcore cpu (AMD will be launching their sub-$400 dualcore soon) with atleast a gig of ram, preferably two. that would be more a completely new system than an upgrade, and will be quite expencive, so i wouldn't be wasting cash on a s754 3700+ if i were you. better save up for a couple months, wait for the cheaper dualcores, new vidcards etc, and when you think the time has come sell your current rig and buy one that will probably last you some 5-10 years.
 
Originally posted by: Visual
the next best buy is a chip with 1mb l2 cache - i thought the 3500+ was the cheapest of those, and still not anywhere cheap enough to be worth it.
but hey! newegg has some "DTR" athlon64 clawhammer 1mb l2 chips at ratings 3000+, 3400+ etc, like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103470
the picture of it looks like an athlonxp though, so i dont know how legit that is, if someone can shed some light on it i would be grateful.
if you can find a 1mb l2 chip cheaply, it could be worth it (you can't gain more cache by overclocking, unlike raw clockspeed)
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Looking at the model # on that 3000+ Clawhammer chip Pic I can vaguely make out something like AMA3000BEXE3AR or something close to that, so it seems legit. You are right, the pic does look like a Athlon XP though.

Still, I have to buy the bridgecard (another $30), then a fan since it's OEM. Lol.

Maybe I'll just forget it and stick with what I have for another year or so and upgrade my old Radeon 9700 when the next line of mid-priced AGP cards come around, then upgrade my entire system.


 
Originally posted by: Wag
Originally posted by: Visual
the next best buy is a chip with 1mb l2 cache - i thought the 3500+ was the cheapest of those, and still not anywhere cheap enough to be worth it.
but hey! newegg has some "DTR" athlon64 clawhammer 1mb l2 chips at ratings 3000+, 3400+ etc, like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103470
the picture of it looks like an athlonxp though, so i dont know how legit that is, if someone can shed some light on it i would be grateful.
if you can find a 1mb l2 chip cheaply, it could be worth it (you can't gain more cache by overclocking, unlike raw clockspeed)
Click to expand...
Looking at the model # on that 3000+ Clawhammer chip Pic I can vaguely make out something like AMA3000BEXE3AR or something close to that, so it seems legit. You are right, the pic does look like a Athlon XP though.

Still, I have to buy the bridgecard (another $30), then a fan since it's OEM. Lol.

Maybe I'll just forget it and stick with what I have for another year or so and upgrade my old Radeon 9700 when the next line of mid-priced AGP cards come around, then upgrade my entire system.
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I think that would be wisest, at least until your are ready to take the plunge into the newer generation boards/cpus

 
The DTR chips don't have heatspreaders because they're for notebooks. That's why they don't look like other A64's. All procs look like that under the spreader 🙂.
 
Caution, not all boards will work properly with DTR chips.

If the bridgeboard will cost you $30, may as well just use that $30 plus whatever you can get for selling your K7Upgrade-880 board plus CPU and put that towards a new mobo/CPU. If you want to save money NOW and don't have a problem with changing boards when you change CPUs, then go with socket 754 and not socket 939.

Reason #1 = This guy doesn't sound like the type of person to shell out the bucks for an x2 CPU.

Reason #2 = Cheapest 1.8GHz CPU is $120 for s754, $150 for s939.

Reason #3 = Cheapest overclockers board with AGP is $65 for s754, ??? for s939 (probably higher than $65).

Yes I know that socket 939 is faster and more superior and all, but is it worth $50 more for starting at the same base point? If there's an emphasis on low cost then to heck with s939. Socket 939 is as dead as socket 754 when socket M2 or whatever comes out.
 
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