Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
um you have a retard certificate now. He isnt looking to do live video shows, or anything like that. he is looking to take some video he has saved on his computer, mess with it, and encode the stuff so he can then put it out onto a dvd or something. and that requires power. hell im just sittin here wanting to smack ur ignorant little face in. truthfully the ideal system for this would be a dual proc computer, but on a budget, i would recommend a 2.4c w/ 1gb pc3500, and some mobo, and o/c the hell out of it, and get up around 3.2ghz. VIVO is used to save files, not edit them and then reencode them. all encoding has to do is take the file from one format to another. also, a faster HD would be nice, but i will leave that out, since your on a budget.
MIKE
If you hadn't noticed, I said University of Southern California recommended the Osprey 1000 at
http://www.viewcast.com/products/osprey/osprey1000.html
for video encoding.
And incase he wanted to do video editing, I recommended the Matrox RT.X100, and if it was just video encoding all he needed was VIVO. Or maybe not even VIVO but just a video capture card which is even cheaper.
So no matter what he wants to do I think I've covered all the bases, that is the professional way to give advice. Read all my comments before you attack me!
I've never gone on a personal level, thats not professional. I've only attacked the advice. However I don't appreciate being called a retard especially from someone giving advice as to scrap a 1.8Ghz Pentium just to do a little Video Encoding, when all he (might) need is a little hardware.
And BIllStuck said his computer took "4-5 hours to encode 90 minutes of video" what do you think VIVO does? And your comment of "take some video he has saved on his computer, mess with it, and encode the stuff so he can then put it out onto a dvd or something" what do you think any of the cards I've mentioned do? Ever heard of hardware acceleration?
VIVO cards will encode video from a VCR or camcorder and save it into MPEG format. All you need is a 133 Mhz Pentium to cut and splice digital media. I've personally done video editing and special effects with a 700 Mhz Duron so I know that was fast enough 5-6 years ago for software that was $800 back then. And as for your advice of a dual processor board. They are nice, and he can build a dual Athlon XP cheaper than a 2.4Ghz Pentium with a good mobo. That will be handy for him, but only if he can afford multi-threaded applications, which are more expensive than the average computer.
As for references I have given multiple url's of specific websites describing many options he can take, what url's have you given him? What articles have you mentioned? How many brand names have you mentioned? The only thing you've said is buy a new computer! Wow, not even professionals do that, they just upgrade individual parts. One of my friends uses a 8 chip radeon video card for his video editing. He has a dual 1400+ Athlon powering that machine, not all that much horsepower is it? Then again he probably doesn't know what he's talking about, he's only lives on a lake, has a boat, and a pool, and drives a mercedes. All paid for by that computer. He is the one that taught me what I know about video editing and computer graphics, that and my Masters Degree. But that might not mean much.
And Wallysaurus, no that is no a dumb question. And yes you can use it to change formats. The card has to decompress the Mpeg1 to edit it so it can easily save it in Mpeg 2. Although I've never done it so when I get home I will try it just to make sure. So don't take my word on it as of yet, but I'm pretty sure you can.
If I seemed crass before I apologize, I just have a low tollerance for media hype, and bad advice. This thread seems more like a Intel billboard than an advice board. Don't get me wrong, Intel is a great chip, and they do wonderfull things, but he doesn't need a faster chip to get the job he wants done done. Any advice other than that to me sounds more like salesmanship. I've only mentioned that since he is on a budget that he might want to stick with AMD. Hell I'm not on a budget and AMD suits all my needs, well not all of them. IBM and SUN equiped processors do alot of my computing at work. Yes Intel has the Performance crown right now, but AMD has the Performance per dollar crown right now. And he is on a budget so. But he doesn't need a faster CPU!!!!! So before this gets into an childish loyalty of brands war, give him the advice that fits his needs. NOT YOURS!! And as for this OC thing, common. Nobody in the professional business does that. Even supercomputers are underclocked not OVER but UNDER to insure stability. I can tell you horror stories about companies (not mentioning any names) that have caused some of my friends major headaches by doing otherwise.
Anyway BillStuck why don't you specifically, and carefully describe to all of us exactly what you are trying to do so that you can get the best advice. But honestly I think you have everything you need.
Sorry about any mispellings, but I have to meeting to goto, and I'm to tired to review what I just wrote. I have gotten good advice/help on these boards before and I was just trying to repay the favor. If I got angry its because I can't stand bad advice, brand loyalty wars, or advice to spend way much more money than is needed.
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