Best PC 3200 for a 1:1 overclock..

[bjc112]

Although lower timings don't help a ton, I would like to keep them low..

My Kingston Hyper X just doesn't agree well with my Neo2, so I have to run the 100 divider.. (DDR 300 )

I would like to run 8.5x310-315 or so.. Granted 1:1 might be out of the question, I still want to run @ least DDR 400-450..

Was looking at some OCZ at Newegg

Is that worth it?

 

[imported_Kensai]

Any TCCD, BH5, UTT should work fine.

 

[bjc112]

Does OCZ use any of the 3?

I think my Hyper X is CH-5

 

[CheesePoofs]

OCZ uses all of the three. Their VX line is UTT, but I dont' know what their BH5 or TCCD is.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: CheesePoofs
OCZ uses all of the three. Their VX line is UTT, but I dont' know what their BH5 or TCCD is.

I was thinking VX series but my Neo2 only goes up to 2.85 and I don't want to V mod..

I just want higher memory bandwidth..

 

[imported_DaveA]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231012

do a search here at anandtech on that memory. the results are impressive, mines in the mail and should be here on thursday.

 

[Chode Messiah]

voltage modding can be fun:evil:

 

[Lithan]

OCZ EL Platinum Rev 2 pc3200 is TCCD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146890

 

[Zebo]

You want TCCD

Choose your color Whats amazing is these premium modules are the cheapest:

Black Mushkin $189 shipped *on sale right now
http://www.newegg.com/OldVersion/app/Vi...Desc.asp?description=20-146-355&depa=0

Platinum OCZ $189 shipped
http://www.newegg.com/OldVersion/app/vi...desc.asp?description=20-146-890&DEPA=0

That VX stuff won't do anything in your mobo w/o Vmods

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: Zebo
You want TCCD

Choose your color Whats amazing is these premium modules are the cheapest:

Black Mushkin $189 shipped *on sale right now
http://www.newegg.com/OldVersion/app/Vi...Desc.asp?description=20-146-355&depa=0

Platinum OCZ $189 shipped
http://www.newegg.com/OldVersion/app/vi...desc.asp?description=20-146-890&DEPA=0

That VX stuff won't do anything in your mobo w/o Vmods

or he could use the DDR booster. But i can confirm that the OCZ 3200EL platinum works well with the MSI K8N NEO2 plat .. although my timings are poor because of the bad mem controllers on my crappy chip..

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Zebo
You want TCCD

Choose your color Whats amazing is these premium modules are the cheapest:

Black Mushkin $189 shipped *on sale right now
http://www.newegg.com/OldVersion/app/Vi...Desc.asp?description=20-146-355&depa=0

Platinum OCZ $189 shipped
http://www.newegg.com/OldVersion/app/vi...desc.asp?description=20-146-890&DEPA=0

That VX stuff won't do anything in your mobo w/o Vmods

Zebo, are you recommending the Platinum OCZ over it( what i linked ) because of timings or because of voltage?

Or because it's not TCCD?

 

[Leper Messiah]

TCCD doesn't need a lot of voltage to do what it does, which is why he recommended it. BH-5 or UTT needs 3.2+ vdimm to really shine, I mean bh-5 won't barely 220 2-2-2-5 at 2.8vdimm, and TCCD beats that with ease.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: bjc112
Although lower timings don't help a ton, I would like to keep them low..

My Kingston Hyper X just doesn't agree well with my Neo2, so I have to run the 100 divider.. (DDR 300 )

I would like to run 8.5x310-315 or so.. Granted 1:1 might be out of the question, I still want to run @ least DDR 400-450..

Was looking at some OCZ at Newegg

Is that worth it?

I have that memory, you need some volts and two this stuff is for tight timings, not a high fsb. You should go with Crucial Ballistix for that board or some good TCCD.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
TCCD doesn't need a lot of voltage to do what it does, which is why he recommended it. BH-5 or UTT needs 3.2+ vdimm to really shine, I mean bh-5 won't barely 220 2-2-2-5 at 2.8vdimm, and TCCD beats that with ease.

thats incorrect, TCCD is able to do 2-2-2-5 upto about 215Mhz, after that you have to relax the timings, but hey we're only talking bout 5mhz here

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: bjc112
Although lower timings don't help a ton, I would like to keep them low..

My Kingston Hyper X just doesn't agree well with my Neo2, so I have to run the 100 divider.. (DDR 300 )

I would like to run 8.5x310-315 or so.. Granted 1:1 might be out of the question, I still want to run @ least DDR 400-450..

Was looking at some OCZ at Newegg

Is that worth it?

I have that memory, you need some volts and two this stuff is for tight timings, not a high fsb. You should go with Crucial Ballistix for that board or some good TCCD.

What memory? the OCZ linked or the Hyper X?

The Hyper X worked great on my nforce2 combo.. Just can't achieve high speeds on this nForce 3 combo..

 

[Zebo]

you linked OCZ gold which has BH5..no good for 1:1 and also needs volts. I linked TCCD platinums. Actually I linked both best deals on tccd right now.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: bjc112
Although lower timings don't help a ton, I would like to keep them low..

My Kingston Hyper X just doesn't agree well with my Neo2, so I have to run the 100 divider.. (DDR 300 )

I would like to run 8.5x310-315 or so.. Granted 1:1 might be out of the question, I still want to run @ least DDR 400-450..

Was looking at some OCZ at Newegg

Is that worth it?

I have that memory, you need some volts and two this stuff is for tight timings, not a high fsb. You should go with Crucial Ballistix for that board or some good TCCD.

What memory? the OCZ linked or the Hyper X?

The Hyper X worked great on my nforce2 combo.. Just can't achieve high speeds on this nForce 3 combo..

OCZ
You need some volts for that stuff.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Zebo
you linked OCZ gold which has BH5..no good for 1:1 and also needs volts. I linked TCCD platinums. Actually I linked both best deals on tccd right now.

Ok..

Going to try and sell my Hyper X before I plunk down another $180...

Any other choices?

are Crucial Ballistix worth a look?

 

[Tweakin]

Since you are looking at the NEO 2, I would recommend the OCZ PC3200 Plat Rev 2. You can easily stretch these modules to DDR450 @ 2-3-10-2 1:1 timings with the vdimm around 1.75 if you really want to run 1:1. I used to run mine that way, but in real life "daily" computing, I have found that a higher HTT, the use of a divider and tight timings is quicker. This also allows the vdimm to stay low which is what this memory does best as it is TCCD.

I used to run my NEO 2 with the same memory at 10x240, 1:1 and 3-3-10-3 @ 1.85vdimm. After reading some of the posts regarding mem bus speed, latency and bandwidth...I decided to test several different configurations out for myself. I was limited with the 1.4 (unmoded bios) to a HTT of 250-260 so I recently upgraded to the moded 1.8 bios. I now run my NEO 2 at 315 HTT, 8x multi, 133 divider which results in a 2.5Ghz engine, the mem bus is running @ 209 Mhz with 2-2-8-2 timings @ 1.7vdimm. My Everest scores are higher then the 1:1 ratio, and I've gained another 100Mhz of power. Just my 2 cents...

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Is that worth it?

N O

With your system, I bet you play games with AA/AF and at least at 1280x1024 resolution. In which case running ram at 600mhz or 400mhz will make 0 difference.
Unless all you do is winrar all day, you are wasting money. Think about it, you could save towards a next generation videocard, buy a watercooling setup. In fact, you'd free 10% of your cpu cycles by getting an Audigy 2 ZS which costs a fraction of what you are planning on spending.

 

[Zebo]

is geil like the worst memory on the planet? I've gotten about 5 pms about geil cant run stock settings in A64.:|

 

[Duvie]

My geils ran stock speed but only at lower HTT levels...once I got high cpu clock and HTT it barely ran 400ddr at cas 2 let alone the 433 it was supposed to do...

It would not run any cas 3 settings no matter what.....


By the way my testing of the gskils had led to believe I have been a little to hasty with them....

200 divider (all passed extensive memtest, 12 hours of prime, and benchmarks

9x272=2448 (544ddr) cas 2.5-4-4-8, 1t 2.75v (1.39v actual)

9x279=2511 (558ddr) cas 3-4-4-11, 1t 2.8v (1.44v actual)

9x285=2565 (570ddr) cas 3-6-6-12, 1t 2.85v (1.49v actual)

I couldn't get any further regardless of 2t or vcore...It just either needs more vcore or better ram cooling...


At lower stock speeds I have been able to run 600ddr cas 3, 1t fine.....So there is some meory degrading as we clock higher...could be power and mobo issue, or just the sensitivity of ocing the memory controller....

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

In fact, you'd free 10% of your cpu cycles by getting an Audigy 2 ZS which costs a fraction of what you are planning on spending.

I keep seeing this reference to gaining some cpu time by not using the on-board audio. Where did you get the 10% from...are there any valid tests to back this up?

 

[deadseasquirrel]

Originally posted by: Tweakin

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

In fact, you'd free 10% of your cpu cycles by getting an Audigy 2 ZS which costs a fraction of what you are planning on spending.

I keep seeing this reference to gaining some cpu time by not using the on-board audio. Where did you get the 10% from...are there any valid tests to back this up?

Anandtech did a quick study on NF4 boards and their onboard audio cpu usage. As you can see, with 3d audio, some motherboards' onboard audio eat up CPU cycles. Some don't.

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel

Originally posted by: Tweakin

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

In fact, you'd free 10% of your cpu cycles by getting an Audigy 2 ZS which costs a fraction of what you are planning on spending.

I keep seeing this reference to gaining some cpu time by not using the on-board audio. Where did you get the 10% from...are there any valid tests to back this up?

Anandtech did a quick study on NF4 boards and their onboard audio cpu usage. As you can see, with 3d audio, some motherboards' onboard audio eat up CPU cycles. Some don't.

Not sure how I missed that one...thank's for the reply.