Well I have decided to go with the MSI K7N-L board. I don't like NB fans, plus I think I am slowly becoming an MSI fan it appears to have solid construction the way the capacitors are mounted and no gigantic ones....AKA cheap parts like a lot of companies seem to use. If all goes well and I soon get a TBred "B" rather then this TBred "A" and some TwinX Corsair 3200. I'll post slowly the progress of how this board is I will be getting it thursday or friday but I only got 2X 256 PC2100 Micron sticks to through in it, a 1700+ "A" and a Radeon 8500LE. My brother is adopting my 2 week old KT3 Ultra2 for his 1.4 Tbird which is a great board I might add. It's probably not the best for high overclocking but it's taken some punishment the last 2 Weeks. Oh yes I almost forgot I'm sure you all care about my old boards new home too!