I don't know if this is going to help at all, but a while ago I was asked a similar question by a friend at school and wrote this to her. It's not going to be directly adressing your problems, but it might give you an idea of what's out there in the price range. Most of the prices I linked to are probably different by now too
"1. Creative Labs Zen Micro
5gb
FM tuner
Very small
Lots of Colors
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=55-102-145&depa=0
reviews there from people who actually bought it
$230 + $6 shipping at newegg (where I get 90% of my computer parts)
slightly better at Walmart.com
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/search-n...t=3944&search_query=creative+zen+micro
ends up about $226 shipped
This one seems really nice if you want a small player and it even comes with an FM tuner so in case you get sick of the music you have on it, you'll always have that.
2. Creative Labs Nomad
30 gb
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=55-102-127&depa=0
or
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe...ductCode=380101&affiliate=pricegrabber
It's pretty cheap at $180 after rebate and has a ton of storage.
3. Creative Nomad Muvo2
4gb
nice and small
reviews here again
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=55-102-129&DEPA=0
really cheap here
http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4078912
4gb, small, $150... what's not to love?
4. Dell DJ
5gb
nice and small
This one is almost the exact same size as the ipod mini.
sold through dell
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/product...19&l=en&s=dhs&~tab=editorialtab#tabtop
mid level priced at $199
5. Dell DJ
20 gb
Dawn and I had the previous version of this one pretty much. They made it smaller now, and looks like they got rid of the record feature. I'm able to record lectures with mine if I want to.
Ours are pretty sturdy, I hope they kept the build quality high.
This is about the same size is the regular ipod.
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/product...&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~tab=specstab#tabtop
It's $224
Dawn and I got our 15 gig older versions for $179 when they were on sale (this was right before they introduced these new versions, so I think we got lucky since they were trying to get rid of their old versions)
6. Apple ipod mini
4 gb
lots of colors
I wouldn't want to exclude this as it is certainly still a good option, I just wanted you to know that there are plenty of excellent options besides apple.
The creative zen micro is smaller than it but has more capacity and includes and FM tuner.
The creative muvo2 is about the same overall size but it's square instead of rectangular and costs $75 less.
The dell DJ I would say is pretty much the same features as the ipod mini and it costs $25 less.
You can get the ipod mini from the doit tech store for $229
http://techstore.doit.wisc.edu/group.as...t=HARD&subcat=MP3Players&group=PLAYERS
I would definately check out these options and read some reviews. I think these are the best options for the price range of $230 and below. I figured I'd make that that's about the cheapest you can get the ipod mini.
I'm not sure I have the absolute best prices on these, but these are all safe places to order from and they have good prices.
I haven't read through a lot of reviews, but if it were me choosing, I think if I cared more about physical size, I'd get the creative zen micro. If I wanted something with more capacity, I'd probably go for the creative labs 30 gb nomad.
I hope this helps.
I also hope I didn't leave any out. I think these are the best cheap hard drive based mp3 players you can get. You can get a flash based one for cheaper, but those tend to be 1gb (1024mb) or under, typically 256mb. They tend to be smaller than hard drive based drives, but I think unless you're insane about size, something that's roughly 3" x 2" x 1/2" isn't going to be too big."