best mid-range card for an aging system?

brblx

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i've decided i want to do a little PC gaming again, and my machine is not cutting it. it's a few years old but still a fairly viable platform. e7200 has been rock stable at 3.3ghz for years, 2gb of memory, 8800gt.

so i began to browse the current video card offerings in the 'mainstream' $100-200 price range. god this market has gone to shit with all the submodels and creation of entirely 'new' model lines by rebadging products.

basically i just want to upgrade to 4gb of memory and a faster 1gb video card so i can play the new total war game and whatever else strikes my fancy.

5770/6770 (appear to be the same thing, yet the former seems to benchmark better...) was the first thing i looked at. just a ~100 buck card and the thing destroys my 8800. but i wanted to shop around a bit and see how much more i could get if i wanted to spend 150 or ever 200.

there seems to be a pretty hard wall at about $200. 200-250 range seems to just be occupied by the 6950 and 560Ti. 6870 and vanilla 560 don't seem to drop much performance and can be had for 190 or less. 6850 seems to own the $150 range, 550ti does not compete....but waitaminute, the gtx460 can be had for under $150, and it seems comparible to the newer (older) 560.

basically, using newegg's best priced card for each chipset-

gtx460 o/c 1GB - 150, 120AR
gtx560 o/c 1GB - 190, 180AR

6850 - 160, 150AR
6870 - 188, 168AR

frankly, it seems like the 460 and 6870 are both steals at their pricepoints. the question is is the $40-50 difference worth it, and is there a better way to spend my money?

looking at the top of the 'value' range, i do see that the 6950 and 560ti are getting pretty affordable. 6950 is 240-250 plus a rebate worth 20-30. 560ti is more like 220-235 with $30-40 rebates. 560ti seems appealing for under 200, but the benches seem to show it only running with the cheaper 6870.

most benches just show everything between the 5850/6850 and 6950 as being so damn close together. perhaps i should just spend in the low 100's and settle on a 4x improvement over my current space heater instead of 5x. ;P
 

brblx

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nope, the SE is even cheaper.

i'm a bit perplexed at how the oldest, cheapest offering seems to be the strongest sub-$200 value. would the 6870 offer any kind of substantial gain?

i'm always weary of buying 'previous' gen cards, it's bitten me in the ass a few times, with a card lacking a certain feature needed to play a certain game. but that seems to be less of an issue anymore, with games scaling to older versions of DX, older shader models, et al. and since nvidia and ati seem to like to get two 'generations' of card out of the same damn hardware...

edit- i mentioned that they were o/c cards simply because those are the cheapest available. evga gtx 460 1GB 'superclocked' at 119.99 less a $30 rebate is the first card on the list. the 768mb models aren't any cheaper and i don't even see the SE's anymore, actually.
 
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Zap

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Make sure the GTX 460 is not the SE model.

It isn't. Current deal at Newegg is an EVGA for $120 after rebate with free shipping. It is a full 336 core 1GB card. IMO a pretty good deal. I'm not sure I've seen 336 core 1GB cards that cheap before.
 

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frankly, it seems like the 460 and 6870 are both steals at their pricepoints. the question is is the $40-50 difference worth it, and is there a better way to spend my money?



The 460 is a steal as its the lowest a 1GB (non SE) 460 has ever been. And its EVGA. The 6870 at $168AR is not a steal. Around $130 or so, yes.



perhaps i should just spend in the low 100's and settle on a 4x improvement over my current space heater instead of 5x. ;P


Yes, most bang for the buck. I have the 768MB version and was thinking of getting this 1GB model but even though it would only cost me about $30 or so out of pocket (after selling the 768MB card), its not worth the hassle to me.
 

cusideabelincoln

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The HD 5830 and GTX 460 SE are viable options since they're cheaper, but the $150/$120AR GTX 460 is the best deal and I don't think they'll last very long. With your dual core processor I don't think it would be worth it for you to get a faster, more expensive card than that.
 

brblx

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okay, i guess that's what i'm going with. i had thought the AMD cards were stronger performers, but everything i'm seeing tells me the evga 460 is easily the best deal under 200.

and the most intensive games i've run/intend to run already run ok on mediumish on my 8800gt. so i think i'll be ok.
 

brblx

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so the evga card's been in stock all weekend, i go to order it a few mins ago...

gone.

goddammit.
 

aphelion02

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Alas, I think you will have to settle for a HD 6850 for around $150 or so then. Still not bad at all.
 

XBoxLPU

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i was thinking just get the 5770 to tide me over until i want to upgrade mobos and buy a quad core.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-873-_-Product

a worthy $100 upgrade over a 8800gt, right? would the 6850 be that much better?

Hardly worth the upgrade at all

A 9800GT is identical to a 8800GT which is a hair below the AMD 4850 in performance. The 4850 is nearly identical to the 5770 performance wise

http://www.techspot.com/review/209-ati-radeon-hd-5770/page5.html
 
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cusideabelincoln

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Hardly worth the upgrade at all

A 9800GT is identical to a 8800GT which is a hair below the AMD 4850 in performance. The 4850 is nearly identical to the 5770 performance wise

http://www.techspot.com/review/209-a...770/page5.html

You are being very generous to the 9800GT and then also generous with the 4850. Check out the other benchmarks besides Crysis, and you'll see there is way more separation between these cards. Particularly, the 5770 is closer to the 4870 than the 4850. Also, new drivers have helped separate the 5770's performance. That article is a year and a half old.
 

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You are being very generous to the 9800GT and then also generous with the 4850. Check out the other benchmarks besides Crysis, and you'll see there is way more separation between these cards. Particularly, the 5770 is closer to the 4870 than the 4850. Also, new drivers have helped separate the 5770's performance. That article is a year and a half old.

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5770 vs. 8800 GT
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/172?vs=178