Best method to back-up DVDs, while retaining menus and extras

AnitaPeterson

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I know, I know... another tutorial...

But I promise you'll never need anything else to do your DVD stuff.

This is how I've bee backing up my stuff in the last six months or so.

The premise is simple: what if you want to copy a DVD-9, but don't have a DL burner, and you absolutely want to keep everything (including menus and extras)?

DVDShrink, while an absolutely phenomenal transcoder, sucks when it comes to reauthoring. You can do a film-only DVD, but you lose the menus and extras (or, as I've seen in the "Grudge" back-up thread, you replace them with a static image.... tssk, tssk...) So, how do you keep everything?

Well, read about it here!

You'll need three programs - the latest DVD Decrypter and DVDShrink (both free) plus CloneDVD - the Elby version, not the Chinese POS...

After ripping the source DVD to your HD, open CloneDVD and put a check mark for the film, as well as the menus. Then change the source size to something custom, like 8550 MB (to prevent Clone DVD from transcoding). Let the program strip the menus - you'll end up with a disc with menus intact, and only the main film on it.

At this step, if the film is still too large for a DVD-5, use DVD Shrink to reduce the size (get rid of unwanted languages etc.). That's what we didn't want Clone DVD to do, its transcoding quality is inferior to DVDShrink. And always, ALWAYS, let DVDShrink perform a "Deep Analysis"...

Repeat the process with Clone DVD, this time uncheck the main film, continue to leave the menus untouched, and check everything else (i.e. all the extras you want to keep). You'll definitely end up with something that will fit on a DVD-5 (usually extras are between 1 GB to 2.5 GB in size)... since you kept the menu, it will be easy to navigate through the extras.

Simple, elegant, efficient.

You end up with two discs - one with the movie, and one with the extras. And if you happen to press a button in the menu for something which is not present on the disc, the player won't freeze - nothing will happen. Static menus, especially, can be heavily compressed, as low as DVDShrink will allow you, so it's not like you lose much disc space with them... And you have the absolute best back-up, which is still easy to navigate.
 
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Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
The premise is simple: what if you want to copy a DVD-9, but don't have a DL burner, and you absolutely want to keep everything (including menus and extras)?

Buy a DL burner.

- M4H
 

AnitaPeterson

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M4H: You're living in Canada, just as I am... have you seen the price of DL media lately?

Besides which... that's not the point, is it?
 

VirtualLarry

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What about using something like DVDFab to split the DVD-9 into two discs? I'm just wondering... splitting between film + extras... well, sometimes the "film" part is still bigger than a DVD-5. Or is the idea to simply slice off the extras, before re-compressing, and then drop those onto another disc? But if you split using DVDFab (I think, I haven't used it yet, but I plan on trying this soon), then you avoid the quality loss from re-compression, at the expense of having to swap discs in the middle of the movie. (But for episodic discs like most anime titles, that shouldn't bet a huge problem.)

Just wondering, because re-compression of anime stuff (high-contrast, lots of solid colors and outlines), tends to reduce the quality more noticably than live action video content, I think.
 

AnitaPeterson

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Swapping discs in the middle of the movie is horrid... what, are we back to old laserdisc times? Most films these days will fit nicely on DVD-5, even if they have to go as low as 75% compresion - with DVD Shrink, that's not an issue, since the results continue to remain excellent - even if you have a large screen TV.

The only problem come with those films that are REALLY long to begin with (3hrs). DVD Remake is the way to go with those.

However, I'd say 95% of films can be backed up nicely with the method I've posted above. Anime remains a narrow niche market.