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Best GPS for car (excluding smartphones)?

riahc3

Senior member
Im looking for a GPS for my car. I do not in any way shape or form want to use a smartphone.

From Garmin Ive found the nüvi® 55LM at 139€ which covers western europe and nüvi® 56LM at 149€ which covers all of europe.

Basically I want to is lifetime updates for everything and radar advisor. I would like voice commands but I see that the price range is very elevated.

Also, please mention where you use your GPS; I mentioned this because Ive read that sometimes TomTom/Garmin is the best in the US but sucks in Europe and visaversa.
 
lol lifetime updates. Good luck with that shit. Maybe you can buy an old GPS off Craigslist. (Or the Spain equivalent)

Getting the latest Samsung Galaxy or iPhone is what I'm going to solidly recommend. It's the only way to go.
 
lol lifetime updates. Good luck with that shit. Maybe you can buy an old GPS off Craigslist. (Or the Spain equivalent)

Getting the latest Samsung Galaxy or iPhone is what I'm going to solidly recommend. It's the only way to go.
I find that not to be accurate!! I have noticed that during certain times of the day my cell GPS is slow to adjust if I decide to go another way...

Yet my TomTom VIA 1605TM 6-Inch GPS Navigator with Lifetime Traffic & Maps is very quick to adjust and quite frankly much better than my cell!!
 
lol lifetime updates. Good luck with that shit. Maybe you can buy an old GPS off Craigslist. (Or the Spain equivalent)

Getting the latest Samsung Galaxy or iPhone is what I'm going to solidly recommend. It's the only way to go.
Do you know what kind of a idiot you have made yourself look?

1: Lifetime updates are truely lifetime updates as long as the device is sold. This means that any small updated roads will be updated. You cant expect a new highway that is going to take 3-5 years to build to be updated on your 3-5 year old device. We know that GPS makers are like this?
2: Besides the fact I clearly stated in both the title and the message to exclude smartphones, do you know that you just suggested a $579.00 Galaxy S5 or a $649.00 iPhone 5S over a $130 GPS device? What kind of a fucking idiot are you? On top of that, do you know that once you leave whatever country you are in, you automatically get caught in roaming charges for your 3G connection? These arent the reasons I dont wanna get a smartphone (besides I already have one) but you just made yourself look horrible and ignorant.

I find that not to be accurate!! I have noticed that during certain times of the day my cell GPS is slow to adjust if I decide to go another way...

Yet my TomTom VIA 1605TM 6-Inch GPS Navigator with Lifetime Traffic & Maps is very quick to adjust and quite frankly much better than my cell!!
True as well. Smartphones have problems getting a quick GPS signal sometimes.

Im not too intrested in traffic because frankly we dont have any traffic where I live.
 
I use a dedicated GPS most of the time but I do use my smart phones now and then. I just prefer a dedicated as I also use it on my bike when touring.

I've gone through a lot of GPS units... The ones that seem to hold up and function well are the Garmins. Magellans are utter crap since the company was sold two or three times in the last ten years - customer service sucks... Shame as Magellan had one of my favorite user interfaces. The Tom-Toms I used where from several years ago and left a lot to be desired in the user interface and overall function.

AS for smart phones, you do know that you can buy a GPS app from Garmin, etc to put on your phone that will not use data as it comes with the maps already????? So I wouldn't rule them out.
 
I use my smart phone most of the time, due to laziness

it has caused some problems, I don't if all GS3's have poor GPS signal or just mine.

I have used Garmins and a TomTom, I did not like the TomTom, I have loved my garmins

I use it in the US only
 
still getting free lifetime updates for my Garmin 1450 bought in 2012. It's a good device at the perfect size.

I do prefer using Waze on my smartphone more though because it warns of cops and is more accurate with real-time traffic (user-inputted).
 
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I'd suggest you look at OsmAnd app on Android - it's a free, open source map app that allows you to download maps to the device. I downloaded it prior to a couple of recent trips and it was better than google maps (for my purposes).

That said, I had to update/program a Garmin Nuvi for the CEO of my last company/job. It was pretty solid and fairly easy to use. The download of map updates is excruciatingly slow and had too many steps to do in order to download. But when it was up and running, it was awesome. Battery life was all day, at least and was usually accurate to only a couple of meters.

http://www.cnet.com/products/garmin-nuvi-3597lmthd/
 
I'd suggest you look at OsmAnd app on Android - it's a free, open source map app that allows you to download maps to the device. I downloaded it prior to a couple of recent trips and it was better than google maps (for my purposes).

That said, I had to update/program a Garmin Nuvi for the CEO of my last company/job. It was pretty solid and fairly easy to use. The download of map updates is excruciatingly slow and had too many steps to do in order to download. But when it was up and running, it was awesome. Battery life was all day, at least and was usually accurate to only a couple of meters.

http://www.cnet.com/products/garmin-nuvi-3597lmthd/

I just bought a 2nd Gen Nexus 7 to use as a GPS. You can't really compete with a satellite view from Google maps when it comes to a GPS. Also Waze is a pretty fun GPS to use. I love marking cop cars on there. I bought the version with 4G for $200. It cost another $10 a month to add the data plan to my ATT account.

There was one big downside though: The Nexus 7 will not work with polarized sunglasses in landscape mode. So I'm just using it in portrait.
 
I just bought a 2nd Gen Nexus 7 to use as a GPS. You can't really compete with a satellite view from Google maps when it comes to a GPS. Also Waze is a pretty fun GPS to use. I love marking cop cars on there. I bought the version with 4G for $200. It cost another $10 a month to add the data plan to my ATT account.

There was one big downside though: The Nexus 7 will not work with polarized sunglasses in landscape mode. So I'm just using it in portrait.

I have the same tablet and use it the same way (tethered to my phone via grandfathered unlimited data on verizon). Yes, it SUCKS that polarized lenses blacks out the screen in landscape mode, my GNex is affected but isn't blacked out like the N7.

I do like GMaps in satellite view, but it's a data hog. I don't care about the data consumption so much as the fact that it drains the battery for me, even while plugged in. Between having screen on, the calculation of GPS data, and constant data downloads for the satelite imagery, it really chugs power. I can drain my Gnex in 90 min using GPS. The N7 will usually last about 5-6 hours. A dedicated navi will last most of the day.

EDIT - I recommended OSM b/c, even though you can cache google maps, you cannot truly save a map and go off the grid. With OSM you can.
 
AS for smart phones, you do know that you can buy a GPS app from Garmin, etc to put on your phone that will not use data as it comes with the maps already????? So I wouldn't rule them out.

This is not the main reason. I know there are 1000s of offline map GPS apps out there.

Like I said, I just prefer not to use a smartphone as a GPS.
 
I use a Kenwood DNX9990HD with Garmin GPS. The updates are not free, although i tried to get one for free by offering them some map errors.

It has lane assist, live traffic updates (free lifetime subscription), voice prompts. I love it.

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I'm on my third Garmin and can't imagine anything else; probably going to buy my fourth this year. I've had the built-in GPS on my parents Ford before and absolutely loathed it.

cellphone GPS will do the trick too, but I hate relying on it (especially when driving into Canada, where I'd be charged for roaming, or out in the boonies going camping or something where my cell doesn't have a data connection)
 
Nokia has offered free offline global turn-by-turn navigation since at least 2010. So, there are a wide range of mobile models from practically free "not necessarily smartphones" to new $100 Lumia with amongst the best usability.
 
1: Lifetime updates are truely lifetime updates as long as the device is sold. This means that any small updated roads will be updated. You cant expect a new highway that is going to take 3-5 years to build to be updated on your 3-5 year old device. We know that GPS makers are like this?

Smartphones don't carry the map information on the device. They download it on the fly from continuously updated central servers (like Google maps). So yes, an old smartphone will have updated maps even if it's 3-5 years old.

"Lifetime" map updates for GPS units are not truly perpetual. They are updated for as long as the maker supports the device. This can be a long time, but it will not be forever. At some point, support for old GPS units will be dropped by a manufacturer, even for units with "lifetime" map updates. As a practical matter though, the length of time updates are available is usually long enough. My Nuvi 265WT from 2008 is still able to receive the lifetime updates, for example. In another 5 years that probably won't be true but I don't really expect support for an 11-year-old device.

Additionally, even with "lifetime" map updates you are limited to updates on whatever schedule the GPS manufacturer provides. Garmin lists their updates as "up to" 4 times a year. This means that it's possible to be up to 3 months out of date with a dedicated GPS, while a smartphone will only be delayed by a matter of days, at most.

When it comes to up-to-the-minute map accuracy, it's pretty much impossible to do better than a smartphone.

2: Besides the fact I clearly stated in both the title and the message to exclude smartphones, do you know that you just suggested a $579.00 Galaxy S5 or a $649.00 iPhone 5S over a $130 GPS device? What kind of a fucking idiot are you? On top of that, do you know that once you leave whatever country you are in, you automatically get caught in roaming charges for your 3G connection? These arent the reasons I dont wanna get a smartphone (besides I already have one) but you just made yourself look horrible and ignorant.

This is correct, and a much bigger issue for people in Europe than the US since travel outside of one's own country is much more common in Europe. The price difference is also hugely in favor of a standalone GPS unit as you correctly point out.

True as well. Smartphones have problems getting a quick GPS signal sometimes.

My smartphone gets a GPS lock much faster than my Garmin. This is because the smartphone can use cell tower location information to assist it in acquiring the initial GPS signal. This ability to use assisted GPS (A-GPS) tends to make cell phones much faster at finding initial lock. At least this is true in the US. It's possible that European cell service providers don't enable A-GPS on their phones. In which case the better GPS antennae in a dedicated unit will give it an advantage.

All that said, with your requirements a Garmin is probably the way to go. They simply have some of the best dedicated GPS units out there.

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