Best friend got caught plagiarizing...

PaperclipGod

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I think he might get expelled... at the least he's kicked out of class. Spare me the "he deserved it" posts - but is this gonna pretty much screw him for the rest of his life?

I told him to try talking to the Dean about making up some of the stuff he plagiarized, but he doesnt think it'll help. :(
 

sash1

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umm, well if he blatantly plagarized something, then he does deserve it. You should know better in college to never plagarize anything and cite all your sources...

`K
 

silverpig

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Plagiarism is like, the worst thing you can do in school. Every class for the first 2 years of university had a little handout about plagiarism and we had a little talk about it.

I always heard that it goes on your permanent school record, so yeah, it'll be with him.

Might as well have just shot a teacher.
 

Legendary

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If he did it, good riddance. I write my own stuff in college and people who don't should suffer.
 

Dacalo

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Your friend just committed the most heinous crime in academia.

So expect the worst from the school
 

PaperclipGod

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lol... get it out of your system. "omgomg he deserved it". Great.
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I know he deserved it, but im his friend, and im just trying to find out if there's anything that can be done to minimize whats happened. He's actually pretty smart, and it sucks to have his whole life ruined because of one dumbass mistake.
 

freebee

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Originally posted by: Dacalo
Your friend just committed the most heinous crime in academia.

So expect the worst from the school

I grabbed my professors as$ in sophomore year and I wasn't expelled or anything.
 

johnjbruin

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its always better to just fail than to plagiarize and get caught.
he does deserve it so dont expect kind words from anyone here.
 

Azraele

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There's not much he can do other than to own up to what he did and work hard to make up for it.
 

geno

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Originally posted by: freebee
Originally posted by: Dacalo
Your friend just committed the most heinous crime in academia.

So expect the worst from the school

I grabbed my professors as$ in sophomore year and I wasn't expelled or anything.

?

details? I'm curious as to how that one came up.... :p
 

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Originally posted by: Azraele
There's not much he can do other than to own up to what he did and work hard to make up for it.

Yea... all you can do is support him. If he gets expelled, he'll start again at another school.
 

miniMUNCH

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Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
lol... get it out of your system. "omgomg he deserved it". Great.
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I know he deserved it, but im his friend, and im just trying to find out if there's anything that can be done to minimize whats happened. He's actually pretty smart, and it sucks to have his whole life ruined because of one dumbass mistake.

He didn't make a mistake...he made a choice to cheat. Big difference.
 

PaperclipGod

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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
lol... get it out of your system. "omgomg he deserved it". Great.
rolleye.gif


I know he deserved it, but im his friend, and im just trying to find out if there's anything that can be done to minimize whats happened. He's actually pretty smart, and it sucks to have his whole life ruined because of one dumbass mistake.

He didn't make a mistake...he made a choice to cheat. Big difference.

right... so bad choices arent called mistakes anymore?
 

geno

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and it sucks to have his whole life ruined because of one dumbass mistake.
Whoops! Shouldn't have plagiarized then! And it's his dumbass mistake, and in life you pay when you fvck up - he should've thought how much it sucks to have his whole life ruined over something seemingly so small, but since he didn't think that through, he got busted and is going to pay the price. Stand by him, do what you can to keep him in school, but don't kid yourself into thinking he's right.
 

EXman

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Don't worry man alot of people do it probably some here it happened he needs to suck it up and make better choices. It was a choice and not a mistake.
 

PaperclipGod

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Originally posted by: geno
and it sucks to have his whole life ruined because of one dumbass mistake.
Whoops! Shouldn't have plagiarized then! And it's his dumbass mistake, and in life you pay when you fvck up - he should've thought how much it sucks to have his whole life ruined over something seemingly so small, but since he didn't think that through, he got busted and is going to pay the price. Stand by him, do what you can to keep him in school, but don't kid yourself into thinking he's right.

I don't think he's right, i think he made an incredibly stupid move... it's just i want to do something to help him. He's a really good guy, and i guess what im worried about a little is that he's always been kind of depressed, and this is probably gonna put him in even more of a funk. There's gotta be some doors left open... right?
 

Azraele

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Yes, there are doors left open. They're called hard work, which is what he's going to have to do to get through this.

He can find comfort from the fact that, in the long run, he can recover from this.
 

geno

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There's gotta be some doors left open... right?
I wasn't trying to be an ass, but it sounded like you were defending what he did. Sounds like you know he made a bonehead move. Just don't be surprised if he suffers the consequences. My advice is to have him talk to anyone above him in power, deans, chairpersons, etc. He's going to need to plead his case and see if he can show remorse for this in some way. I don't know how it'll work, but that's all I can think of to do.
 

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Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
lol... get it out of your system. "omgomg he deserved it". Great.
rolleye.gif


I know he deserved it, but im his friend, and im just trying to find out if there's anything that can be done to minimize whats happened. He's actually pretty smart, and it sucks to have his whole life ruined because of one dumbass mistake.

He didn't make a mistake...he made a choice to cheat. Big difference.

right... so bad choices arent called mistakes anymore?
If he would have done the paper legitimately and forgot to include his works cited page, then got accused of plagiarizing, then that would have been a mistake.
 

PaperclipGod

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Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: konichiwa
His "entire life" will not be "ruined." Chill pill.

yeah. seriously. wtf?

Well doesnt this sort of screw him for future education? I mean if he gets kicked out... tries to transfer... they see why he was kicked out....

Eh, whatever. I'm spending too much time worrying about this i think. :/