Originally posted by: slatr
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Originally posted by: slatr
No, that is experience with the destructiveness of that breed.
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Your statement there just shows your complete ignorance in terms of dog breeds.......
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I'd bet you a thousand dollars I have more verifiable experience with all breeds and you're an idiot that doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
edit, not the guy replying to the idiot, the other one
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Well, if you are referring to the pit bull, yes I am biased.
I have seen first hand what they can do to other dogs.
Sorry didn't read this far when I responded. Oh so you have seen first hand what one pitbull did to another dog. Well why didn't you say so.....
Your one experience means jackcrap.
Now if you state FACT that pitbulls are in general dog aggressive then I am not going to argue. Pitbulls in general are going to be aggressive towards other dogs.
Another fact, pitbulls should not in most cases be owned by first time dog owners. Pitbulls are strong powerful dogs.
Another fact, pitbulls are dog aggressive but are NOT human aggressive. Old dog handlers who used to fight pitbulls would routinely stand IN the pit as the dogs would fight. If the dog bit them, they would put the dog down.
So why do pitbull deaths occur? Same reason why EVERY DOG BREED ATTACKS. Poor breeding and pathetic dog ownership.
Labs attack and bite people more often than pitbulls. The difference? When a pitbull attacks, it is big time damage.
However if breeders and owners were ethical, there is no problem.
Oh how do I know a lot about this? I own bulldogs. They aren't pitbulls but they are mistaken for pitbulls on a daily basis. I would put money that 99% people on this forum couldn't even pick out a pitbull among dogs.
Get a puppy that will eventually grow into a big dog. No one can resist a puppy and your wife will have grown accustomed to it by the time it gets bigger.
grow a pair, and tell your wife you want a REAL DOG.
And whoever posted the link to that poodle, wth is wrong with you? There is nothing g@yer than a poodle.
GSD's are the best dog...but if they get your wife's panties in a bunch, labs are great dogs too....and a bit less intimidating. I wouldn't settle for much less than a lab. Just tell your daughter that it's mommy's fault the next time she asks for a dog.
And whoever posted the link to that poodle, wth is wrong with you? There is nothing g@yer than a poodle.
GSD's are the best dog...but if they get your wife's panties in a bunch, labs are great dogs too....and a bit less intimidating. I wouldn't settle for much less than a lab. Just tell your daughter that it's mommy's fault the next time she asks for a dog.
I will throw a picture of my dogs out there.
Here are my murderous dogs
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/Codewiz/dogs/christmasdogs.jpg
Lucy and Dozer are both 50lbs. Lucy is a good bit taller and Dozer shorter and stout. Both have the same mother and different fathers.
Here are my murderous dogs
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/Codewiz/dogs/christmasdogs.jpg
Lucy and Dozer are both 50lbs. Lucy is a good bit taller and Dozer shorter and stout. Both have the same mother and different fathers.
smartest dogs:
border collie
german shepherd
best family dog can mean a lot of different things. some dogs arent good with young kids. but i personally feel it is all how you raise the dog. if it is trained properly...any dog will make a great family dog. look at mine, for an example...he is a young male miniature dachshund. dachshunds are known to be extremly possesive and very bad with young kids...well, i beleive this is mainly because they are a popular breed and most people dont know wtf they are doing. my dog is extremely sociable (prolly too sociable) and is awesome with little kids. i let him play with a cousin's 3yr old (under close supervision) and the kid was tuggin on his hair, pulling his tail, just about everything someone could do to hurt it, but he was good. just kept playing and licking.
however, if you dont plan on getting some training then get a smarter dogs (dachshunds arent the brightest and they are stubborn like most small dogs). smarter dogs learn quicker and will understand thigns more easily...usually even if you're not a great owner...
i say get a a border collie since they are smaller and extremely smart...if not that a german shepherd, or goldren retriever...labs are good too.
border collie
german shepherd
best family dog can mean a lot of different things. some dogs arent good with young kids. but i personally feel it is all how you raise the dog. if it is trained properly...any dog will make a great family dog. look at mine, for an example...he is a young male miniature dachshund. dachshunds are known to be extremly possesive and very bad with young kids...well, i beleive this is mainly because they are a popular breed and most people dont know wtf they are doing. my dog is extremely sociable (prolly too sociable) and is awesome with little kids. i let him play with a cousin's 3yr old (under close supervision) and the kid was tuggin on his hair, pulling his tail, just about everything someone could do to hurt it, but he was good. just kept playing and licking.
however, if you dont plan on getting some training then get a smarter dogs (dachshunds arent the brightest and they are stubborn like most small dogs). smarter dogs learn quicker and will understand thigns more easily...usually even if you're not a great owner...
i say get a a border collie since they are smaller and extremely smart...if not that a german shepherd, or goldren retriever...labs are good too.
I have a Havanese as someone suggested earlier and it is a great mix of size and intelligence. I got her due to the hypo-allergenic qualities (no shedding or dander). She has a great personality, but from my experience I don't think that breed is what you are looking for.
I saw someone the other day with a miniature Border Collie. I know this is a recognized breed but I would research it. If you can get even half the personality and intelligence of a border collie in a smaller size then that would be the perfect dog for you. Also very protective. My friend's border collies "herd" their 2 kids whenever they sense danger.
I saw someone the other day with a miniature Border Collie. I know this is a recognized breed but I would research it. If you can get even half the personality and intelligence of a border collie in a smaller size then that would be the perfect dog for you. Also very protective. My friend's border collies "herd" their 2 kids whenever they sense danger.
Labs are great dogs. They do shed - a lot depending on the climate where you live. Based on your description, a lab would be ideal. Plenty of room to run, a lot of stuff to sniff and a pond to swim in (they are water dogs after all). They can be destructive if they feel they are being neglected, but then most dogs can. My chocolate female is 65lbs, and my black male is about 80lbs.
Any shepard, collie, retriever, pointer, or healer will make a great family dog.
We have a half shepard/half husky female that is huge. She constantly watches and guards the house and my children. We also have a long haired border collie. She is too smart for her own good, but is also great with our children. She prevents momma from disciplining the kids outside and she herds the kids and keeps them away from the street. She also frees other dogs in the neighborhood when she invariably escapes the back yard by chewing their tethers into.
We have a half shepard/half husky female that is huge. She constantly watches and guards the house and my children. We also have a long haired border collie. She is too smart for her own good, but is also great with our children. She prevents momma from disciplining the kids outside and she herds the kids and keeps them away from the street. She also frees other dogs in the neighborhood when she invariably escapes the back yard by chewing their tethers into.
the best compromise is a pembroke welsh corgi. they are herding dogs on dwarf legs, used for the small cattle in Wales. you get a smallish dog (25 pounds average), but they literally have big dog heads, bodies, and personalities. big dog voices mean no yapping. big dog brains mean no neurotic bullsh!t and they are easy to train. the herding intelligence translates to a dog that can learn many commands, but you have to be willing to be the alpha wolf and not the herded cow! they are non-destructive, like to play and go on walks, and have few genetic problems (other than occasional hip problems).
the cardigan welsh corgi is a different dog with a different genetic background, and they aren't as smart or playful, but might be better if you need a dog that is ok being lazy.
don't listen to the pug promoters. most are overbred, have very expensive medical complications (think thousand dollar surgury bills to open air passages), and require regular grooming to clean the crap out of the folds in their skin. you can't train them, because their personalities have both no interest in learning or in pleasing you. their eyeballs fall out of their heads (i am not joking), so get used to having the emergancy vet's phone number on speed dial. just don't go there, no matter how cute you think they are.
bassets are usually nice dogs, but they smell. think everything-you-own-smells-like-basset. your car will smell. your furniture will smell. etc. i love bassets, but could never own one for this reason.
the cardigan welsh corgi is a different dog with a different genetic background, and they aren't as smart or playful, but might be better if you need a dog that is ok being lazy.
don't listen to the pug promoters. most are overbred, have very expensive medical complications (think thousand dollar surgury bills to open air passages), and require regular grooming to clean the crap out of the folds in their skin. you can't train them, because their personalities have both no interest in learning or in pleasing you. their eyeballs fall out of their heads (i am not joking), so get used to having the emergancy vet's phone number on speed dial. just don't go there, no matter how cute you think they are.
bassets are usually nice dogs, but they smell. think everything-you-own-smells-like-basset. your car will smell. your furniture will smell. etc. i love bassets, but could never own one for this reason.
West Highland Terrier: Train them well, and they get along with EVERYONE. Also very "fierce", big dog in a little dog's body. And they're chick magnets, too. I have one, and him and my Siamese cat actually play with each other. It's amazing.
Jack Russel Terrier: EXTREMELY ENERGETIC. If you're lazy/old, not the dog for you. But if you like running/kicking balls around, this is an awesome dog. Great with familes, very loyal.
Jack Russel Terrier: EXTREMELY ENERGETIC. If you're lazy/old, not the dog for you. But if you like running/kicking balls around, this is an awesome dog. Great with familes, very loyal.
slatr
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I never said it was one experience
Here you go short and to the point
1. Bitten by a pit bull as a child by one that came into the street after getting loose.
2. neighbor bitten by one
3. Our spaniel mauled by neighbors dog and nearly killed
4. Another neighbors beagle mauled by same dog, they had to choke the pit bull to get him to release the beagle.
Get a Gordon Setter. Body of an english setter, coloration of a doberman or rottwieler (sp?). They are very nice medium sized dog (40-50 lbs), and you can hunt with them.
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