Best creatine?

BadNewsBears

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I hit a wall at 205 for a few days here so I want to try creatine. Whats the best one out there?
 

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I use MetRx Micronized.
It does it's job, but mixing it is a pain in the ass.

They have the liquid ones. No experiences on them, but i'll try it most likely when i'm done with the MetRx
 

isekii

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I can do like 4 reps at 245 flat bench.

never maxed completely but i do notice creatine working.
 

Antisocial Virge

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Originally posted by: Munchies
I hit a wall at 205 for a few days here so I want to try creatine. Whats the best one out there?

Cheap. I tried expensive one and cheap ones and they all did the same thing. The liquids I tried when it first came out and it did zip, nothing, nada. I tried picking it up again and it didn't seem to have any effect so I quit using it all together.
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
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why would anyone ever even consider taking these kinds of drugs....

why the hell not ? ;)
I go on intervals.
Now i'm on Glutamine + Ephedra + Chromium to get a bit more cut up. ( with high protein diet and gym every other day )
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
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why would anyone ever even consider taking these kinds of drugs....

Do you know anything about them? Let me guess creatine is the next ephedra/phen fen.....

I find the best creatine is whatever known brand has a large size on sale. You want to stick to at least trusted sources as there is really no regulation on if you are getting creatine or sugar.

The biggest thing is how you load it and avoiding things that unload it. I used Glutamine with it, along with a couple other supplements and I noticed an almost immediate effect from the creatine (within a day or two). I was much more pumped and my workouts 'seemed' easier. I don't know if creatine caused the easier workout effect, but I know it definitely increased my size.

You want to avoid caffeine and diuretics while on it as they will pull the water creatine is trying to load right out...(yes creatine increases water in your muscle, water in your muscle is also a key to stronger ones).

Right now I am on a triming down phase (EC stack and low calories), once I have visible abs I will start loading on calories and weight. I will probably start creatine and glutamine again.
 

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It's medically proven that it's NOT good for you, be a real guy, get some serious determination, eat right and work out. You didin't see guys 20 years ago using creatine all the time before they work out (let alone half the dumb ass machines made today) and there just as ripped, if not more than most people that work out.
 

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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: acemcmac
:shocked:

why would anyone ever even consider taking these kinds of drugs....

why the hell not ? ;)
I go on intervals.
Now i'm on Glutamine + Ephedra + Chromium to get a bit more cut up. ( with high protein diet and gym every other day )

I do crack in intervals too.... It's not any healthier... :roll:
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: acemcmac
:shocked:

why would anyone ever even consider taking these kinds of drugs....

why the hell not ? ;)
I go on intervals.
Now i'm on Glutamine + Ephedra + Chromium to get a bit more cut up. ( with high protein diet and gym every other day )

I do crack in intervals too.... It's not any healthier... :roll:

share the goods :p
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: MainFramed
It's medically proven that it's NOT good for you, be a real guy, get some serious determination, eat right and work out. You didin't see guys 20 years ago using creatine all the time before they work out (let alone half the dumb ass machines made today) and there just as ripped, if not more than most people that work out.

Link to medical proof?
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: MainFramed
It's medically proven that it's NOT good for you, be a real guy, get some serious determination, eat right and work out. You didin't see guys 20 years ago using creatine all the time before they work out (let alone half the dumb ass machines made today) and there just as ripped, if not more than most people that work out.

jeesh you are cool, Creatine was widely used in professional sports and olympic contenders 20 years ago...don't know if you can have anymore determination or be more real of a guy than that.

Where is the links to the medical proof, only things I have seen are:
It is not regulated by the FDA...neither is any supplement

It causes water retention and weight gain....as it's designed to do

Because of swelling from water retention, there may be a higher risk of injury to muscles and tendons leading to sprains...I have never seen this relation

Creatine has a plateau effect, which means that after a certain dose it is excreted in the kidneys and wasted....again like anything....esp Vitamin C

Creatine supplementation may be bad for the kidneys, especially in people at risk of having kidney disease...MAY be bad?!?! real scientific

Creatine has to be combined with controlled exercise to achieve the results desired....no sh!t!

There are reports of other side effects of creatine including dizziness, abnormal heart rhythm, rash and migraine headaches....I have no idea where this comes from other than rare rare circumstances and these factors probably exist without creatine supplementation since it occurs naturally
 
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I just took regular creatine suppliments when I lifted.(bottles are like $45 for a months supply) just eat a ham or turkey sandwich with each dose to get enough carbs to make it usefull.
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
I just took regular creatine suppliments when I lifted.(bottles are like $45 for a months supply) just eat a ham or turkey sandwich with each dose to get enough carbs to make it usefull.

Or buy something like Swole V2, San V12, etc. and get the carbs you need included in the product.

I pay about $25 for a month's supply of Swole. The V12 is around $35-$40 and that's one of the main reasons I stick with Swole.
 

Amused

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Wow, I see FUD people.

There are NO valid studies showing ANY harm from proper creatine use. Creatine is NOT a drug, it is a suppliment. It occurs naturally in many of the foods we eat.

Many studies have been done on creatine. And not one has shown any harm from proper use, short term, or long term.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: MainFramed
It's medically proven that it's NOT good for you, be a real guy, get some serious determination, eat right and work out. You didin't see guys 20 years ago using creatine all the time before they work out (let alone half the dumb ass machines made today) and there just as ripped, if not more than most people that work out.

You are a freakin' moron. The jury is still out if Creatine has any negative side effects. There is some speculation but that is it. Given that Creative has been out for years, and there still isn't any proof, I'd say that is a good sign.

As far as which Creatine is better, just get the big ass jug that says 100% Creatine. But whatever you do, stay away from EAS stuff. That is some grossly overprices sh!t.

As for me, I haven't taken Creatine in years (4+ yrs). I just eat alot. Luckily for me, my metabolism is good and I don't get fat. Anyway, I'm up to 400lbs on flat bench, and I'll start taking Creatine here shortly. Hopefully it will push me to 420lbs at least. (I weigh 213lbs)
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Munchies
I hit a wall at 205 for a few days here so I want to try creatine. Whats the best one out there?

Hit a wall at 205 for a few days? What does this mean, that you are benching 205 daily and it hasn't gone up?

First, you shouldn't be benching more than once a week. Over training is as bad as not training at all. Secondly, the gains you see as a newbie (dramatic gains in how much you can lift on a weekly basis) slow WAY down as you become more experienced.

Creatine works, but it wont make up for poor training or unreasonable goals.
 

Spamela

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they're all about the same.

it doesn't work for some people & has side-effects for others.
buying 500 grams from a local drug store first might be a good idea.
 

Ilmater

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Originally posted by: Amused
Wow, I see FUD people.

There are NO valid studies showing ANY harm from proper creatine use. Creatine is NOT a drug, it is a suppliment. It occurs naturally in many of the foods we eat.

Many studies have been done on creatine. And not one has shown any harm from proper use, short term, or long term.
Thank you for finally stating the facts. Creatine is found in especially large quantities in red meat, so unless you'd advocate Atkins, MainFramed, you can just be quiet.

I used CellTech, but it was probably just over-priced. I DEFINITELY saw an improvement when taking it, and I definitely saw a decrease when I went off it. My gains slowed WAY down. Make sure you load like you're supposed to and you should see improvement fairly quickly. Even if you don't use CellTech, getting extra dextrose definitely helps in absorbtion.
 

BadNewsBears

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: acemcmac
:shocked:

why would anyone ever even consider taking these kinds of drugs....

Do you know anything about them? Let me guess creatine is the next ephedra/phen fen.....

I find the best creatine is whatever known brand has a large size on sale. You want to stick to at least trusted sources as there is really no regulation on if you are getting creatine or sugar.

The biggest thing is how you load it and avoiding things that unload it. I used Glutamine with it, along with a couple other supplements and I noticed an almost immediate effect from the creatine (within a day or two). I was much more pumped and my workouts 'seemed' easier. I don't know if creatine caused the easier workout effect, but I know it definitely increased my size.

You want to avoid caffeine and diuretics while on it as they will pull the water creatine is trying to load right out...(yes creatine increases water in your muscle, water in your muscle is also a key to stronger ones).

Right now I am on a triming down phase (EC stack and low calories), once I have visible abs I will start loading on calories and weight. I will probably start creatine and glutamine again.
I ahve read alot about American Creatine, and it seems like an ok deal 34.00 for 1000 grams. Where are you guys getting ephedra?
 

BadNewsBears

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Originally posted by: MainFramed
It's medically proven that it's NOT good for you, be a real guy, get some serious determination, eat right and work out. You didin't see guys 20 years ago using creatine all the time before they work out (let alone half the dumb ass machines made today) and there just as ripped, if not more than most people that work out.

Show me the article? I have read many about how there is no short term sideaffects proven, and long term side effects are being tested.