Best choice for internal watercooling kit?

[EGGO]

Hopefully this won't be too much of a bother to the people here, but I was wondering what exactly would be the best choice when it comes to watercooling my CPU and GPU.

I was looking at the KINGWIN Arctic Liquid Cooler System which is nice and cheap to cool both components, while buying a seperate waterblock from DangerDen for the 6800 Ultra

I would like the kit to be not that expensive since this waterblock is freaking metric fecktons of money.

Here's the important components that I guess would effect and help bring the list of choices:

[: BFG 6800 Ultra OC (no waterblock obviously)
[: AMD Athlon 64 FX-53
[: MSI K8 Neo2 Platinum
[: Enermax 600W Noisetaker

(edit) I also forgot to mention I have the Thermaltake VA300BWA, which has two 120mm fans on the front and rear (which lights up ) and a 90mm fan on the side.

 

[pelikan]

The Kingwin kit is a piece of ... let's just say it wouldn't serve you very well.
For a similar price you could buy real parts and get great performance:
csp-750 pump - $36.
Swiftech mcw-6002 cpu block - $45.
Pro core (chevette heatercore with barbs) - $30.
10' of 1/2" clearflex 60 tubing - $10.

That's about $120. If you don't have a 120mm fan get one of those and make a shroud out of sheetmetal, tupperware or cardboard (check out the shrouds at D-tek so you know what I'm talking about).

 

[EGGO]

Thanks for the reply. I'm going to see if I can get my hands on a waterblock for my 6800U now.

 

[JBT]

I had the Kingwin. It had a leak on the CPU block and the resivior... Needsless to say its on RMA then I am sending it strait back to Xoxide for a refund.

 

[EGGO]

Originally posted by: pelikan
The Kingwin kit is a piece of ... let's just say it wouldn't serve you very well.
For a similar price you could buy real parts and get great performance:
csp-750 pump - $36.
Swiftech mcw-6002 cpu block - $45.
Pro core (chevette heatercore with barbs) - $30.
10' of 1/2" clearflex 60 tubing - $10.

That's about $120. If you don't have a 120mm fan get one of those and make a shroud out of sheetmetal, tupperware or cardboard (check out the shrouds at D-tek so you know what I'm talking about).

Alright, I'm really looking at the Innovatek's NV40 waterblock for my 6800, do you happen to know of a better waterblock for the CPU? And when it comes to the radiator, I already have a blue LED 120mm fan on the back of my case, so that should be a-ok.

The pump SHOULD be powerful enough to cool both the CPU and GPU right?

Sorry for the many questions, this is a dangerous mod for the PC, and I'm doing as much research as I can as possible.

 

[pelikan]

Good cpu blocks:
The swiftech linked to above is the best currently available.
The Danger Den TDX is also very good.

The pump I linked to will do the job. If you want to spend more and get a more powerful pump go with the D-4.

Edit: Maybe you should just go all Swiftech parts and use 3/8" tubing so you can use their 6800 block as well. They have the best cpu block and their gpu block for the 6800 is better than the Danger Den or Innovatek. Swiftech also sells the D4 pump (they relable it as the MCP650).

 

[EGGO]

I couldn't find a 6800 GPU block, so I'm looking at their MCW50 GPU Cooler (It'll need to have the 6800 adapter of course) and I'm trying to see what makes this above the Innovatek's or DD. It seems small compared to the two, it doesn't look like it can cool the RAM (from what I'm seeing so far).

 

[pelikan]

The mcw50 is the block I was talking about. The main advantage the mcw50 has over the Innovatek or DD is less far less flow restriction. It will also cool the gpu more efficiently.
It won't cool the memory. You could put some little ram sinks on there which would be fine. Watercooling memory is overkill anyways.

 

[EGGO]

Thanks so much for your help, I'm off to look for ramsinks right now then and then I'll start using this little shopping cart put together. =0)

However, it seems that many of the things here, even the Black Ice Pro 120mm Radiator, uses 1/2 in fittings.

The list:

Swiftech MCW6002-64 CPU block (once it's in stock)
1/2" OD.

Swiftech MCW50 GPU Block (with adapter for nVidia 6800)

DangerDen DD12V-D4 Pump -or- csp-750 pump

ClearFlex 60 1/2" ID 3/4" OD Tubing

Black Ice Pro 120mm Radiator (1/2" OD) (would the Black Mini Coolshroud for 120mm Radiators be necissary?

 

[pelikan]

You're welcome.
You know what you could do is use a reducer right in front of the gpu block to get down to 3/8". A 1/2" coupling would work- the 3/8" tubing will stretch over it.
This heatercore will give you better performance at a lower price. For $5. more you can get it in black here.
You should definately use a shroud. It allows the fan to pull air through the entire heatercore, greatly improving efficiency.
Edit: don't forget to go to your local hardware store and pick up some worm drive hose clamps. Just don't get the ones in that link- they are too small. You need 3/4" or 7/8".

 

[stevennoland]

EGGO,

Congrats on making the jump to H2O! The one thing to remember is to design your flow system as a whole unit. You will want to leak test the whole enchalada outside of you rig for at least 12-24 hours. If no leaks, leave whole system closed and install into rig. This will take some (a lot) of forthought. It might even take more than 2 hands (hope you have a friend) to install properly. As far as a recommendation: go with the danger den GPU for the 6800. That thing is awesome, but you will have to reenforce the card/block as the danger den block weighs a hefty 3 pounds (according to web site). Also, stay away from Hydor pumps. Mine have a tendancy to not want to start (BAD!!!). I unfortunately built my system befor the dawn of 12V pumps. Good luck.

 

[pelikan]

Great advice on the leak testing.
There is a debate going on about the Danger Den 6800 block at Overclockers watercooling forum.