Solved! Best card to pair with AMD FX 6100?

[Kledgie]

I was given an old FX 6100 for free. What would be the best graphics card to pair with it? I don't want to buy a too powerful card that would be bored playing around with it.

 

[Stuka87]

I would find something older and used. Maybe an R9 280X, or a GTX 960?

Those can be had for ok prices, and they are not too fast for that CPU.

 

[Kledgie]

Ok gr8. I'll keep the 280x in mind. Thank you.

 

[mohit9206]

GTX 1650 non super , its around $100 now.

 

[AtenRa]

RX570, new from $120 in newegg

 

[Fanatical Meat]

As above, I was going to give the vague any card that sells for around $100 should be fine. Don’t bother going with something too good.

 

[Kledgie]

GTX 1650 non super , its around $100 now.

Used?

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I'm not sure I'd want to touch R9 cards with a weaker cpu after the driver overhead problems I saw using them with cpus lower than i5 years ago.

If you don't know these cards, the R9 280 is significantly more powerful than the GTX 760 when paired with an i5 or better, and they both absolutely mop the floor with the very weak GTX 750 Ti when paired with an i5 or better. I think they showed similar happening with other games but I can't find the video(s).

 

[Stuka87]

I'm not sure I'd want to touch R9 cards with a weaker cpu after the driver overhead problems I saw using them with cpus lower than i5 years ago.

If you don't know these cards, the R9 280 is significantly more powerful than the GTX 760 when paired with an i5 or better, and they both absolutely mop the floor with the very weak GTX 750 Ti when paired with an i5 or better. I think they showed similar happening with other games but I can't find the video(s).

I think using a 6 year old video to try and prove a point in todays world is a bit strange. Especially since there have been huge driver changes since then. Not to mention comparing a dual core i3 to a hex core FX is exactly apples to apples. The i3 is a bit faster in single threaded performance, but falls way behind in multi-threaded performance.

 

[Kledgie]

What about this guy? Would the 8gb be overkill?

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I think using a 6 year old video to try and prove a point in todays world is a bit strange. Especially since there have been huge driver changes since then. Not to mention comparing a dual core i3 to a hex core FX is exactly apples to apples. The i3 is a bit faster in single threaded performance, but falls way behind in multi-threaded performance.

Those R9 cards were known for having terrible performance with low end cpus, and an FX 6100 has way lower single core performance than an i3-4130 and is just a little faster in multithreaded performance according to Passmark. AFAIK AMD never fixed those driver overhead problems in DX11 games for those cards.

Intel i3-4130 vs AMD FX-6100 Six- [cpubenchmark.net] by PassMark Software

 

[Fanatical Meat]

So I don’t want to be the guy on the internet that shouts AMD/ATI drivers suck!

I will say I have had
5 AMD or ATI cards
2 nvidia
1 3dfx

While I didn’t have consistent driver problems with the AMD/ATI cards, I did have to be careful about what other crap gets installed with their driver suite. One time I got some game recording thing, which sounded pretty cool until I went nuts trying to figure out why every game slowed to a crawl after 15 minutes. Tried numerous things and was prepared to replace my system thinking it was old and something failed. Uninstalled the game software problem solved!
I also want to add regarding driver updates and it screwing up some game here are my results:
AMD/ATI 3 times I can remember
3dfx definite one time
nvidia none which the minor exception of my gtx260 which had some color saturation thing that needed to be adjusted after I installed the card. Real simple to figure out.

Finally I did think my 280x was a good value card, ran everything well for years just not ultra great. Plus it was kind of hot & noisy but overall a good card.

Feel free to disagree, just observations from me.

 

[AtenRa]

What about this guy? Would the 8gb be overkill?

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

Nice one, better have the 8GB than be sorry to only have 4

If you go to that price point, you can also consider the GTX1650 SUPER , although it only has 4GB its faster than 570

 

[mohit9206]

RX 570 is the most powerful card that you can pair with overclocked 6100 anything more will cause bottleneck,

 

[AtenRa]

A lot of the latest games are GPU limited, the faster the GPU the better at those games.
But there are also games that the FX6300 will definitely be the bottleneck.

In DX-12/Vulkan games its better to have a faster GPU, in most of the other games the FX6300 will be the limiting factor.

I will say that the 570 and 1650 SUPER are the ones to consider for the FX6300. R9 280X/GTX7xx and older cards will not make it in the latest games.

 

[VirtualLarry]

GTX 1650 non super , its around $100 now.

In what country??? Used?

 

[mohit9206]

In what country??? Used?

No,new in usa, im assuming that is by now it should be $100. If not then 570 is best.

 

[VirtualLarry]

No,new in usa, im assuming that is by now it should be $100.

Not even remotely close. There's only two that are MSRP ($149.99), all others are ABOVE MSRP. There are NONE below MSRP, except for USED/REFURB, at $137.99.

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

Way to pull numbers out of your butt, and get people's hope's up.

Edit: Btw, you KNOW NVidia HATES To lower prices...

Edit: Sorry if this post was a bit of an emotional over-reaction. Just that, if GTX 1650 was available NEW for $100, IMHO, it would be BIG NEWS, and selling out all over, at least, among the budget-gamer crowd.

Edit: That all being said, I do think that $100 is more-or-less an appropriate price for the GTX 1650. It's basically this generation's 750ti.

Edit: https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1650-04g-p4-1057-kr/p/N82E16814487449
EVGA GTX 1650 XC Ultra (NOT "Super") for $160 - $20 promo - $20 MIR = $120 FS
(Getting closer to $100...)

 

[Shmee]

I don't see anything wrong with a good R9, such as the 290 or 290X. These cards are beasts for their time, and faster generally then the RX 570. I have a few nice Sapphire Tri X 290 cards and I would be willing to sell one, PM me if interested or check my for sale thread.

 

[Arkaign]

I don't see anything wrong with a good R9, such as the 290 or 290X. These cards are beasts for their time, and faster generally then the RX 570. I have a few nice Sapphire Tri X 290 cards and I would be willing to sell one, PM me if interested or check my for sale thread.

They were pretty forward looking GPUs. I was so happy to see good AIB models come out. I had an OG blower 290X and it was a great PCB and GPU held back by an inexcusably horrible stock cooling assembly. Those Tri-X are a million times better than the loud hot nightmare blower trash ones.

 

[ondma]

I don't see anything wrong with a good R9, such as the 290 or 290X. These cards are beasts for their time, and faster generally then the RX 570. I have a few nice Sapphire Tri X 290 cards and I would be willing to sell one, PM me if interested or check my for sale thread.

They are much more power hungry than equivalent performance cards of the current generation, plus they are quite old now. How long will AMD provide updated drivers? Really, for a low/mid range card I wouldn't bother searching for a used card. Get a current card that runs cooler, uses less power, and has the latest video codecs. Should be able to get a 570 or 1650 for 100 to 150.00.

 

[Arkaign]

Newer is better in those respects, especially efficiency, however a $50ish 290 may be the difference between someone being able to put together a budget gaming rig from used parts, and it being more than makes sense.

The same budget which might only afford a 4C/8T, 8GB Ram ~RX550 level of performance can build a used 6C/12T, 16GB Ram rig with a dramatically better GPU, be it 290X, 1050ti, RX570, whatever