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Best budget cpu for gaming/streaming?

Whitz

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I can currently stream PUBG on 720 30fps.. but it won’t let me stream fortnite or The Forest at all. Unless it’s on the lowest settings. I have an i5 7400 right now and was wondering if going with a ryzen 5 1600 because of the more cores/threads would be worth it? Or is there another cpu you recommend for around the same price range that would be better?
 

ao_ika_red

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You're better off with 7700 because you already had 1151 board.

edit: what's your gpu?
 
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ZGR

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Quad cores suffer pretty badly on PUBG while streaming. I would get an i5 8400 or R5 1600.

But if your GPU is quite old, I wouldn't bother until upgrading.
 
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daveybrat

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Please give us your entire system specs so we can give more accurate advice.
 

Whitz

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Quad cores suffer pretty badly on PUBG while streaming. I would get an i5 8400 or R5 1600.

But if your GPU is quite old, I wouldn't bother until upgrading.
I have an nvidia GeForce GTX 1060.
Everything I’ve been reading says ryzen is the better bang for your buck when streaming and gaming on the same pc.
 

Whitz

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Please give us your entire system specs so we can give more accurate advice.
Entire specs are-
Gpu- gtx 1060
Cpu- i5-7400
Motherboard- Odense 2-K
Ram- 8gb ddr4
Memory- 1 TB no ssd
PSU- internal 300w uATX E star 6.0 bronze
 

daveybrat

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So this is an HP computer correct? Not even sure that the motherboard will handle a higher-end i7.

And yes, Ryzen 1600 or higher is definitely better for streaming IMO. But i'd wait it out if you can since Ryzen 2 will be out in April.
 
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UsandThem

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All of that on a no frills 300w PSU? I know the GTX 1060 doesn't use a lot of juice, but I'm surprised a 300w PSU has a PCI E cable (Nvidia recommends a 400w PSU).
 

SPBHM

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it might not be a terrible idea to buy a capture card and used PC to run a dedicated streaming PC.
 
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Whitz

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All of that on a no frills 300w PSU? I know the GTX 1060 doesn't use a lot of juice, but I'm surprised a 300w PSU has a PCI E cable (Nvidia recommends a 400w PSU).
I haven’t had any problems with the temp at all. Even while running multiple windows at once.
 

Whitz

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So this is an HP computer correct? Not even sure that the motherboard will handle a higher-end i7.

And yes, Ryzen 1600 or higher is definitely better for streaming IMO. But i'd wait it out if you can since Ryzen 2 will be out in April.
Obviously I’d get a motherboard compatible with the ryzen 5 1600. But with getting both of these things, would I need anything else so I could be able to stream (most) games?
 

ZGR

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I haven’t had any problems with the temp at all. Even while running multiple windows at once.
I wouldn't be concerned about temps but rather power consumption. Upgrading your current PC is tough with such a low capacity PSU.

What kind of software are you using to stream? What framerate are you outputting and what kind of Bitrate?
 

daveybrat

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I haven’t had any problems with the temp at all. Even while running multiple windows at once.
It's not the temps we're worried about. It's that you're pushing that 300Watt power supply pretty hard. If you do upgrade to Ryzen, you should really look at getting a new 500Watt+ power supply (good quality and minimum bronze rated).
 

Whitz

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Well rn, I just use the GeForce game stream. And it lets me stream in 720 30fps. But any other game, it can’t support it.
 

Whitz

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It's not the temps we're worried about. It's that you're pushing that 300Watt power supply pretty hard. If you do upgrade to Ryzen, you should really look at getting a new 500Watt+ power supply (good quality and minimum bronze rated).
Gotcha. Thanks a lot for the info.
 

daveybrat

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No problem. When you're ready to do the upgrade, be sure to ask us about the parts you want before you buy them. :)
 
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Whitz

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No problem. When you're ready to do the upgrade, be sure to ask us about the parts you want before you buy them. :)
For sure. I’m still new to this. Just came over from console a little bit ago. I was going to build my pc but it would’ve came out to about 900-1100 for the same stuff I got in this HP desktop lol. And this HP desktop was on sale from 750 to 400$ so I had to grab it.
 

ZGR

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Well rn, I just use the GeForce game stream. And it lets me stream in 720 30fps. But any other game, it can’t support it.
I highly suggest stop using Nvidia's streaming software. It is awful.

Get OBS and you will be able to stream at a higher res and framerate.

Figure out your upload speeds limitations as well.
 

VirtualLarry

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I remember @VirtualLarry bought that PC as well. He might have some good advice for you.
I bought the HP "Power Gaming" PC, from Walmart early in Dec., but it was an advertised Black Friday special, for $500 + tax in-store.

I haven't done too much with that PC. I added an SSD, first-off, and unplugged the HDD, and I've used it for Folding@Home (300K-330K PPD), and currently for NiceHash ($2-$4/day). I haven't actually tried any gaming or streaming or game-streaming on it.

I too was surprised to see a 300W Lite-On PSU, WITH a 6-pin PCI-E connector coming off of it.

I honestly don't think that I would bother to upgrade that PC much, though, besides adding an SSD (there was a spare SATA port on mobo, and a spare drive bay).

Better off getting a Ryzen (or wait for the newer 2000-series) CPU. My main PC is a Ryzen R5 1600, and it really rocks. I was a somewhat early-adopter. I'm glad I did, though, with all of this "Meltdown / Spectre" garbage affecting the Intels. (AMD Ryzen rigs aren't affected by Meltdown, and only a tiny bit affected by Spectre.)

For that reason alone, I might suggest getting a Ryzen rig, but honestly, this thing does everything that I throw at it with aplomb.

For gaming + streaming, though, I would strongly suggest spending a little bit more, and getting a Ryzen 7 CPU, like the 1700X or 1800X.
 
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TheELF

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He is using geforce experience, no amount of CPU power is going to change what the GPU is doing...
What he needs to do is use task manager while recording to raise the priority of nvspcaps64.exe to the highest so that the system knows that you want a stutterless recording.
Even better use process hacker to do this since that actually goes all the way up to real-time priority and let's you save the priority so you only have to do it once(until you re install windows)
 
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Quad cores suffer pretty badly on PUBG while streaming. I would get an i5 8400 or R5 1600.

But if your GPU is quite old, I wouldn't bother until upgrading.
I agree. The 8400 is faster overall in gaming. I havent seen results from independent test sites on gaming/streaming. The data I have seen also shows very little effect of the meltdown/spectre patches on gaming. Only disadvantage to the 8400 is availability (which I think has improved now), and the fact that non-overclocking motherboards are not yet available, so the motherboard will cost around 50.00 more.
 

Hans Gruber

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Any 6 Core CPU 1600 or 8400. I would add since it's a budget thread a 1200 or 1300x with future plans to upgrade at a later date. X370 motherboard is my suggestion for future upgrades. Would hold off for Zen + to see how that performs.
 

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