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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
While I am still in the middle of reading that court case, and the other link you provided 🙂beer: for that, thx 🙂) the issue that started the court case was the Corley posted DeCSS on his website. Like I said, I have yet to read all about the case but that is one important bit of information.
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Yes, and the law also covers _use_ of such tools, not just distribution. That is to say, if fair use isn't fixing the tools distribution problem, it's sure not fixing usage. There was another case that discussed this, but I don't remember what it was - the link should make note of it.

I agree discussing ways to break laws can open anandtech up to lawsuit, breaking the decryption in order to make a fair use backup (that does NOT get distributed) is something that I still believe is a grey area (and that you won't get caught unless you distributed it, or it's discovered due to some other crime you commit). I'll keep reading about the court case, and see if I'm wrong about that.
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The lawyers at the EFF seem fairly clear that this isn't really a grey area, if you look at the ChillingEffects website I linked to. Unless you think you're better than the lawyers at the EFF, which I rather doubt, I think I'd stick with their own educated opinions. The "grey area" here seems to be more that you're in denial than anything else.

Basically, fair use does not give you right of access, and right of access can be restricted without violating the first amendment. That's what the current case law seems to be. IANAL, but I played one in B-school.
 
Originally posted by: erwos
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
While I am still in the middle of reading that court case, and the other link you provided 🙂beer: for that, thx 🙂) the issue that started the court case was the Corley posted DeCSS on his website. Like I said, I have yet to read all about the case but that is one important bit of information.
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Yes, and the law also covers _use_ of such tools, not just distribution. That is to say, if fair use isn't fixing the tools distribution problem, it's sure not fixing usage. There was another case that discussed this, but I don't remember what it was - the link should make note of it.

I agree discussing ways to break laws can open anandtech up to lawsuit, breaking the decryption in order to make a fair use backup (that does NOT get distributed) is something that I still believe is a grey area (and that you won't get caught unless you distributed it, or it's discovered due to some other crime you commit). I'll keep reading about the court case, and see if I'm wrong about that.
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The lawyers at the EFF seem fairly clear that this isn't really a grey area, if you look at the ChillingEffects website I linked to. Unless you think you're better than the lawyers at the EFF, which I rather doubt, I think I'd stick with their own educated opinions. The "grey area" here seems to be more that you're in denial than anything else.

Basically, fair use does not give you right of access, and right of access can be restricted without violating the first amendment. That's what the current case law seems to be. IANAL, but I played one in B-school.
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Well, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night....


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I guess I just don't like to admit that you can't legally backup discs you own for your own personal "fair use". For some reason, when I read the second part of the DMCA it changed the way I thought of it from the right way (that decrypting is illegal) to the wrong idea (that it's okay in "fair use"). Meh.
 
Originally posted by: erwos
Originally posted by: XMan
EDIT - OK, I misread the product description. It's a 200-disk jukebox in addition to a server. But there are other products out there that are hard disk based.
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Really? Care to link us to some? Because, really, they don't exist. Even the Popcorn Hour / NMT-based stuff doesn't really handle Blu-Ray properly, there's no BD-J support, etc. Kaleidescape made a DVD version of what you're describing, but that licensing loophole has long been plugged.

Originally posted by: QueBert
Gotta love Sony, they'll sell you the BURNER to burn the Blu-Ray, they'll sell you the BLANK disc to burn it on, but don't dare copy a Sony movie with it.
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Which is exactly how it's been with DVDs and CDs. I don't even get your point.

When I go to Best Buy and see 100 pack spindles of Sony DVD's I wonder if Sony believes people actually buy these to ummm make 100 copies of a crappy summer vacation video they shot.
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They probably expect them to back up their computer, send stuff to family, etc. This line of thought is rather dangerous - it's what the studios tried to use to kill the VCR.
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http://www.axonix.com/MediaMax/

http://www.s1digital.com/Media...er_Edition_p/mcseq.htm

Soitanly.

 
Originally posted by: Baked
It takes shorter time to watch the movie than ripping it to your computer. And how many times do you plan on watching the movie? Once or twice?
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Not for me. I've been backing up my BD dvd's with AnyDVD at about 1hr apiece for like a 2.5 hour movie
 
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