Best 56K/V.92 modem chipset?

flyted

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Have to get a 56K PCI modem and wanted the best chipset. Some have to be better than others. Not concerned about all the other features, just want the best chipset?
 

imported_zenwhen

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Regs, that modem is a winmodem. Not only will it use his CPU for any work that should be done by a REAL modem, but it will give a him slower and less reliable connection.

The ONLY modems anyone should consider are the 3COM based hardware modems made by US Robotics, who has always and will always make the mest modems available. Anyone who has used a US Robotics hardware based serial or PCI modem will tell you this.

This is a good one on a PCI based board that conforms to V92:

http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=25-104-131&depa=0

You get what you pay for, and with this modem, you will get the best dialup experience you can get. I have the PCI Performance Pro in my current machine and value its performance so much that when it was fried by lightning I bought another one the same day.

After that, I remembered to plug it in through the surge protector. :)

You might also want to look at some of the serial based USR modems on ebay. Somtimes you can find a good deal on this PCI card or some of their serial modems on there. Anything USR is great.
 

Regs

Lifer
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And on that correction I would recommend the any of the LT Win Modems. Sorry, hah.
 

imported_zenwhen

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I didn't intend to say you were silly or anything, and while modern chips and chipsets do have such wonderful performance that this isn't as much of a problem as it used to be, the modem should still be doing this work.

Winmodems are basically nothing more than a phone with a PCI connector.

I actually just found the modem I was speaking of for US $32.45 on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...=1&ssPageName=WDVW

That is a damn good deal on a damn good modem if you want to go the ebay route. The person appears to have good feedback, and it sure beats the Newegg price. Also note:

This is a hardware modem, NOT a win modem, as such it works well with any operating system including Linux.

Ping times, connection stability, and download speeds are just faster with hardware modems.
 

flyted

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I have more than enough computing power that I'm not worried about using cpu power. Its my understanding also that this was an issue with PI and some PII machines, but not anything built in the last 5 years or so. The chipset was my only question.
 

imported_zenwhen

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Originally posted by: flyted
I have more than enough computing power that I'm not worried about using cpu power. Its my understanding also that this was an issue with PI and some PII machines, but not anything built in the last 5 years or so. The chipset was my only question.

Still, you asked for the best. USR is the best, and not JUST because of Linux support and lower overhead.

They are better in every way that a dialup modem can be better than another one. That ebay one is only slightly more than a winmodem, and every winmodem is as bad as any other.
 

Regs

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Originally posted by: flyted
I have more than enough computing power that I'm not worried about using cpu power. Its my understanding also that this was an issue with PI and some PII machines, but not anything built in the last 5 years or so. The chipset was my only question.

No, he is right. Winmodems cause the most troubles out of them all. If you live outside a city where there are less than optimal line conditions you will see a lot of dropped connections, slow downs, as well as the chance not to be able to connect to the internet at all.
 

Regs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: flamingspinach
... this thread is so confusing... o_O So many posts have been edited... please don't do that...

-fs

Read the bold print in my quote ;)

Sorry.
 

LED

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Originally posted by: flyted
Have to get a 56K PCI modem and wanted the best chipset. Some have to be better than others. Not concerned about all the other features, just want the best chipset?


Conexant
 

imported_zenwhen

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Originally posted by: LED
Conexant

Thats a winmodem chipset. It has already been explained in this thread, and everyone who has actually looked into them or has been stuck using one and then switched to a real modem agrees ... that they suck.

This is a real modem chipset that can be found on USR modems. It happens to be the one on my lightning fried one.

http://zenhardwhere.com/images/3com.jpg

 

LED

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Originally posted by: zenwhen
Originally posted by: LED
Conexant

Thats a winmodem chipset. It has already been explained in this thread, and everyone who has actually looked into them or has been stuck using one and then switched to a real modem agrees ... that they suck.

This is a real modem chipset that can be found on USR modems. It happens to be the one on my lightning fried one.

http://zenhardwhere.com/images/3com.jpg

It's a Modem chipset and not only comes in more than Win Modem flavor ... I cannot/didn't see where the Poster asked for the best Hard Modem just the best chipset :roll:

I've used and have USR's... they are fine but my Conexants strapped with a cache Does better than USR's
 

Zepper

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The Intel modem chipset with a DSP on board (I forget the model but some web listings actually call them "hardware" modems - which is a half-truth as it does take some of the processing load off the CPU. so it could be called half-hard or semi-soft ;) ).
. I have had nothing but trouble with the Lucent/Agere chipsets, whether the full hardware, external serial or soft PCI modems. While Conexant have always worked well for me. And as the others said, there's always USR if you have the money or buy off eBay or the For Sale/Trade sections.
.bh.
 

jadinolf

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Originally posted by: zenwhen
Regs, that modem is a winmodem. Not only will it use his CPU for any work that should be done by a REAL modem, but it will give a him slower and less reliable connection.

The ONLY modems anyone should consider are the 3COM based hardware modems made by US Robotics, who has always and will always make the mest modems available. Anyone who has used a US Robotics hardware based serial or PCI modem will tell you this.

This is a good one on a PCI based board that conforms to V92:

http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=25-104-131&depa=0

You get what you pay for, and with this modem, you will get the best dialup experience you can get. I have the PCI Performance Pro in my current machine and value its performance so much that when it was fried by lightning I bought another one the same day.

After that, I remembered to plug it in through the surge protector. :)

You might also want to look at some of the serial based USR modems on ebay. Somtimes you can find a good deal on this PCI card or some of their serial modems on there. Anything USR is great.

The first review is mine. I have three of those puppies.
 

Tiorapatea

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I recently bought a modem after doing truly excessive amounts of research. The issues are as follows:

1. Application: i.e. will you use data, fax, voice, or some combination of these functions. Modems differ in their abilities in each of these areas.

2. Operating system support: any internal modem will require a driver that is specific to your OS.

3. Those Who Know (tm) buy external modems. Apart from their cross-platform support, they also provide better visual feedback, they can be moved to different computers, they do not generate "electronic noise" in your case, they have better resistance to lightning strikes, etc. etc.

Specific models by application:

1. Best for data (with reasonable fax): USR Courier V.Everything (BTW consumer market US Robotics modems are of much inferior quality e.g. Sportsters)

2. Best for fax (with good data): Zyxel

3. Best for voice with good data and reasonable fax: Multitech

4. Other good all-rounder: Elsa

I personally bought a Multitech external speakerphone modem off ebay for about GBP 10 (19 dollars) becuase: 1) I am a Linux user; 2) I want to play around with vgetty.

Quality issues tend to be about the following areas:
1. Ability to deal with inferior or variable line conditions.
2. Precise implementation of standards.
3. Availability of documentation.
4. Support: e.g. firmware revisions and technical advice from a company that has not gone bust, is serious about engineering and that likes to talk to customers - even Linux hackers that bought in the secondary market.

No company is very good at all these things but I was more happy with Multitech than any of the others, plus it did have the voice feature that I felt like having just for fun.
 

Thegonagle

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Conexant? No thanks, not if the line is marginal in my experience. At my mom's house, with a Diamond Max Supra/Conexant, we were only getting about a 24-26k connection with both AT&T Worldnet and my local ISP; an external serial USRobotics modem I brought over cured that ill--44-48k connections now with either ISP.
 

LED

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Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Conexant? No thanks, not if the line is marginal in my experience. At my mom's house, with a Diamond Max Supra/Conexant, we were only getting about a 24-26k connection with both AT&T Worldnet and my local ISP; an external serial USRobotics modem I brought over cured that ill--44-48k connections now with either ISP.
Yep that's what my External USR hits at whereas my External Conexant does hits pretty consistant between 52-53K ;)
 

0roo0roo

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usr was pretty sweet in the day. its hardware modema lright. not sure why it matters now since cpu's are so powerful its hard to justify price for such a slow connect speed. not like you can really game while using a modem in the first place, so cpu burden becomes even less important. the extra money could go towards faster components elsewhere in the pc.
 

gate1975mlm

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Originally posted by: jadinolf
Originally posted by: zenwhen
Regs, that modem is a winmodem. Not only will it use his CPU for any work that should be done by a REAL modem, but it will give a him slower and less reliable connection.

The ONLY modems anyone should consider are the 3COM based hardware modems made by US Robotics, who has always and will always make the mest modems available. Anyone who has used a US Robotics hardware based serial or PCI modem will tell you this.

This is a good one on a PCI based board that conforms to V92:

http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=25-104-131&depa=0

You get what you pay for, and with this modem, you will get the best dialup experience you can get. I have the PCI Performance Pro in my current machine and value its performance so much that when it was fried by lightning I bought another one the same day.

After that, I remembered to plug it in through the surge protector. :)

You might also want to look at some of the serial based USR modems on ebay. Somtimes you can find a good deal on this PCI card or some of their serial modems on there. Anything USR is great.

The first review is mine. I have three of those puppies.

Can that do caller ID?

 

LED

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Originally posted by: Kaieye
Where's Modus...??

LOL...K living in the Country and with dialup for the past years I decided to do a test between 2 puters of pretty much the same setup and I strapped 2 Conexant Modems ( 1(HCF=Soft chipset)+ 1 ACF=Hard Chipset1 and compared it with 3 Hardware Modems (USR Everything and Sportser)+ an Actiontec (Lucient Venus). The best combo I got was from the
Conexants with the Actiontec+USR pacing last. All combos were tried and checked 4 times to make sure the Accelerator hit. :p