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Besides the Raptors, what is the 2nd best hdd

Many people will disagree, but I like the 7200 ATA133 Maxtors. The one that I have has a better transfer rate than both the ATA100 or the SATA I drives that I have.
 
Originally posted by: Modular
FWIW my 7200.10 400gb Seagate drive simply screams...
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You mean "screams" as in "is fast" not as in "is really loud", right? Every time I peruse the .10 Seagates at the Egg, I see people bitching about the noise, the heat, or both.

I'm very interested in the answer to this question as well. I'll be in the market for a 400-500 GB drive in the next few months.
 
I have a 320GB Seagate 7200.10 drive and it is noticeably louder than my WD IDE drive. It also idles at 32 C compared to 22 C of my WD. But its fast. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Modular
FWIW my 7200.10 400gb Seagate drive simply screams...
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FTW. just got two of them over the weekend and they are FAST (cheap too).

be sure and take out the jumper on the back of the drive if you want to have a "faster" transfer rate (i think 150 to 300).
 

yea i disagree, maxtors have been on a failure spree on these forums.

in my opinion the seagate 7200.10 series is the second fastest, whats "best" i wouldn't know. the Seagate 7200.10 750gb is pretty darn "good" to me, largest capacity & fastest after the raptor series
 
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

yea i disagree, maxtors have been on a failure spree on these forums.

in my opinion the seagate 7200.10 series is the second fastest, whats "best" i wouldn't know. the Seagate 7200.10 750gb is pretty darn "good" to me, largest capacity & fastest after the raptor series
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Agreed. The amazing high data density of the 750GB 7200.10 causes it to come in a close second to the Raptor 150. I think the 750GB 7200.10 even beats the older Raptors.


The downside of the 750GB drive ... backing it all up! Price premium hurts too.
 
I think it's pitiful that the Raptor is the only 10K RPM (or greater) SATA HDD on the market. CPU's and GPU's keep getting faster, while HDD performance remains, for the most part, stagnant (and most people don't seem to care).
 
Originally posted by: Random Variable
I think it's pitiful that the Raptor is the only 10K RPM (or greater) SATA HDD on the market. CPU's and GPU's keep getting faster, while HDD performance remains, for the most part, stagnant (and most people don't seem to care).
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because everyybody does the price per GB equation - nobody want to spend $$$ on hdds plain and simple
 
I got a Seagate 7200.10 in my last build and no noise problems at all. IMO if you got a 7200.10 and its making alot of noise then you got a bad unit. These things are pretty quiet really. At least the 250Gb unit is. And I'd second the notion they come in a close second to the newer 16Mb cache 74Gb & 150Gb Raptors.
 
Originally posted by: Skott
I got a Seagate 7200.10 in my last build and no noise problems at all. IMO if you got a 7200.10 and its making alot of noise then you got a bad unit. These things are pretty quiet really. At least the 250Gb unit is. And I'd second the notion they come in a close second to the newer 16Mb cache 74Gb & 150Gb Raptors.
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The 7200.10 is the 2nd fastest SATA drive next to the Raptor. Then comes WD's 3200KS? or the RE2s. The Hitachi T7K500s are impressive too...
 
I have 4 7200.10s and a raptor 150. I tested them outside of the case with the backplate of a sata -> usb enclosure and passed some data back and forth. Honestly, I could barely hear the seagates and they were sitting right in front of me. The raptor was a bit louder but would be completely silent inside my P180b. I don't understand people who complain about HD noise.
 
I prefer 15k Fuj. drives then 150g Raptors for my system.

But for regular systems I try to stick to Seagate.

Recently in a rush to replace a failed drive (>3yrs old) I got a Maxtor 80g from OfficeDepot.
It died in 1.5 months, I replaced it w/ a WD drive.

Regards,
Jose
 
Originally posted by: stev
Originally posted by: Modular
FWIW my 7200.10 400gb Seagate drive simply screams...
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You mean "screams" as in "is fast" not as in "is really loud", right? Every time I peruse the .10 Seagates at the Egg, I see people bitching about the noise, the heat, or both.

I'm very interested in the answer to this question as well. I'll be in the market for a 400-500 GB drive in the next few months.
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Correct, I meant that this drive is super fast. I'm not sure why anyone would complain about the noise, mine is seriously whisper quiet.
As far as heat goes, I have a 80mm fan blowing onto the metallic backplate of this drive through a perforated front plate (so there's some resistance to airflow) and it idles at about 28-30C depending on room temperature. When doing sustained file transfers (think 5-10 GB) across a 100 MBit LAN, the drive doesn't heat up at all beyond whatever temperature it was idling at. So I'm not sure why people would be complaining about heat.

I take my temp measurements through Speedfan's chart reading of SMART on the drive.

As with any review on newegg or elsewhere (including this one), it should be taken with a grain of salt. So much has to do with usage, case setup, brand-loyalty etc.

Imagine you had just purchased a $250 Raptor drive @ BB or something and found out that a drive that has almost 3x the capacity is almost as fast and has better recording technology. It might drive you to write a spiteful review about the newer, cheaper, better drive. Even though it's childish, this does happen.
 
Originally posted by: Modular
Imagine you had just purchased a $250 Raptor drive @ BB or something and found out that a drive that has almost 3x the capacity is almost as fast and has better recording technology. It might drive you to write a spiteful review about the newer, cheaper, better drive. Even though it's childish, this does happen.
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people buy the raptor because of the low, quick seek times so while the 7200.10s are faster, the raptors are quicker.

and the raptors were always more expensive, so i doubt anybody would have accidentally bought one not knowing there were drives with a higher str and more capacity out there.

 
If you are willing to spend the money, there is always 15k SCSI. The new Cheetah 15k-5 with perp. recording, should give top performance in most benchmarks. Of course, the price will be absurd for most personal users. Next would be the 7200.10 that others have mentioned. The smaller sizes give better bang for the buck than the 750.

I wish the other major HDD makers would hurry up and get their mainstream 3.5 drives up with perp recording. Don't know what's taking them so long. Maybe they let Seagate set the pace so they could bring out 7200.10 killers... IAC, until they do it's all 7200.10.

.bh.
 
Originally posted by: Zepper
If you are willing to spend the money, there is always 15k SCSI. The new Cheetah 15k-5 with perp. recording, should give top performance in most benchmarks. Of course, the price will be absurd for most personal users. Next would be the 7200.10 that others have mentioned. The smaller sizes give better bang for the buck than the 750.

I wish the other major HDD makers would hurry up and get their mainstream 3.5 drives up with perp recording. Don't know what's taking them so long. Maybe they let Seagate set the pace so they could bring out 7200.10 killers... IAC, until they do it's all 7200.10.

.bh.
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the 15k.5s have the highest str, but i am pretty sure the fujitsu max series are better performers. benchmarks look this way. i know i am on the lookout for a decently priced 36GB fujitsu max to go along with my 15k.5. with the 15k.5 my burst speed and str are =, both 95.5-96MB/s but i am on a congested 32bit pci bus with it....
 
Originally posted by: Seekermeister
Many people will disagree, but I like the 7200 ATA133 Maxtors. The one that I have has a better transfer rate than both the ATA100 or the SATA I drives that I have.
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I concur with this. My 16mb 250gb Maxtor 7200 ATA133 has been an unbelievable surprise since the day I got it. Mind you, I stress "ATA133" and not SATA. I still prefer using this HDD as my primary boot drive over my 16mb WD 250gb SATA. For whatever faults Maxtor may have garnered, they got it right with this particular model.
 
I've also had no noise issues in my 7200.10 750GB drives and I got two of 'em in my Lian-Li! My computer is still very quiet at all times. I could run some tests to see how fast the drives are, but my 7200.10s are noticeably slower than my 74GB raptor when it comes to booting Windows. Just going off the non-sensical "Windows XP loading bar movements", 2 "revolutions" of the bar is all it takes for my slower machine with a raptor to load into the next screen, but it takes about 5-6 "revolutions" for my faster machine with a 7200.10 to load into the next screen.
 
Yeah bob4432, you are about at the real-world max of the PCI bus. Gotta put some heavier iron under those bad boys!

re. noise of Seagate 7200.10 remember that noise specs don't carry over from model to model. They could easily have different head arm motors for each variety. single platter/single side, single platter both sides, two platters/3 sides, two platters/4 sides, etc. Heavier motor each side for the head arms, and heavier platter motors for each step up in platter count. Theoretically the 750 should be noisiest and hottest of the series.

.bh.
 
Originally posted by: Zepper
Yeah bob4432, you are about at the real-world max of the PCI bus. Gotta put some heavier iron under those bad boys!
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i contacted lsi and they said they might make a pci-e 1x or 4x single/dual channel non-raid card early 07, but they stressed might. they told me they are going more towards sas and i can understand that, but i got such a deal on the 15k.5 i couldn't pass it up (74GB for $100).

there is always that one lsi/dell lsi raid adapter and if i can find one cheap enough i will pick it up, but to be honest i really don't think i would notice much because i doubt i would ever find another deal like the 15k.5 and for a raid setup i would rather do 1 or 5, i have no reason for 0 with the speeds of the 15k.5 and the fujitsu max line.

do you know of any sca->sas adapters? or is that even a possiblity? then again when i upgrade it will be to some type of quad setup so maybe a pci-x board if it isn't too expensive....guess i will wait and see
 
Originally posted by: Aikouka
I've also had no noise issues in my 7200.10 750GB drives and I got two of 'em in my Lian-Li! My computer is still very quiet at all times. I could run some tests to see how fast the drives are, but my 7200.10s are noticeably slower than my 74GB raptor when it comes to booting Windows. Just going off the non-sensical "Windows XP loading bar movements", 2 "revolutions" of the bar is all it takes for my slower machine with a raptor to load into the next screen, but it takes about 5-6 "revolutions" for my faster machine with a 7200.10 to load into the next screen.
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2.5 bars for me with my Raptor. I'm pretty sure if I installed a cleaner version of windows (SP2 slipstreamed, it woudl be faster). I remember my RAID-0 7200.10s did it in a bar or so.

My 7200.10s scream when I play games. Hell yes. They rock. I love my Raptor, but too bad that's for OS only.
 
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